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stupidkid23

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:03 pm


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:44 pm


Well..Even though I may not be authorized to answer this topic..I'll attempt to do so anyway..Since, even though I'm unsure if I am actually otherkin or not, this topic still technically applies to me.

Well, I guess since it's always easier to look at the glass as half empty than half full, I'll start off with the cons:

-Depending on your therio/kintype, you may or may not experience mental shifts. These mental shifts could basically bring on an impulse to hunt(and possibly the desire to tear into something), a desire for the consumption of raw meat, and possibly a bloodlust of sorts. There's also random urges to just drop to all fours and run or something like that. Much like the aforementionned impulses to hunt or to tear into things, dropping to all fours and attempting to run, isn't exactly an impulse that you want to act on. Just imagine what people would think if you did!

-You can experience mood swings related to the lunar phases if you're a wolf therian, and this even applies to other types of kin too, based off things I've read.

-You may or may not have a delayed circadian rythym, that's to say that you may not get tired at all until like 3AM, which means you have to try to force yourself to sleep earlier than that to revolve around a Diurnal schedule even though you yourself tend to be Nocturnal.

-Then, there's sensitivity to the sunlight. HLVs in particular tend to find that the sunlight is too bright and it makes them too warm.

-There's also the fact that sometimes(for certain kin) you can have little quirks based on your Kintype(with reference to therians and certain otherkin other than HLVs). These little quirks could involve growling, snarling, hissing and barking, but that's only a small list.

-I can't forget to mention how HLVs get this hunger for energy. This hunger can get pretty bad, and food can't satisfy it. Only energy consumption can.

-Sanguinarian HLVs have to look really hard to find a donor, then they have to get that donor tested to ensure that they don't have any diseases that are transmittable by blood. Sometimes, if you're a sanguinarian, you have to go awhile without a donor while the hunger progressively worsens.

-You have to be uber careful about where you discuss this sort of thing. If you're not careful, you could get yourself targeted by various people including "Hunters" and Bible Thumpers.

-You can't talk about Otherkin to just anyone. I've tried to do so with some of my friends. They don't really care to listen and won't remember a thing you told them a month and a half later.

-There are certain prejudices tied to certain names of kintypes. Like, the Americans decided not to name their peace keeping troop/missiony thing "Unicorn" because the word apparently had a homosexual connotaion. It's kinda like if a Bear therian was an older man and he just said "I'm a bear", people would automatically think that he was a kinky old man based off how Society warped the word out of context. gonk

-Some therians find a place among the "Furry" subculture..which is also targeted and labeled wrongly. The CSI episode is a prime example of this.

-HLVs are sometimes looked at as people who've spent all their time indoors playing White Wolf games in their mother's basement so long that they now think that they are Vampires since they've been playing V:tM for so long that they now have no concept of reality.

*takes a breath* Hoo boy..That was a lot..I think I left some things out though. @.@;;

Well, now I'll move on to the Pros!

-Despite the possible negatives to having Empathy, it can also come in handy. It can help you to help others and to understand them. It also helps you to feel better after helping someone when you know they're genuinely happy.

-Psi-Vampires have the abillity to read auras, as do other otherkin, from what I've read.

-Psi-Vampires are good at energy manipulation from what I've read, but then again, they have to be.

-Some Therians and Otherkin have heightened senses. Though this can sometimes lead to sensory pain/discomfort, it can also be useful. Good nightvision is an asset if you like to go camping or like going out in the woods..or even going out at night. Heightened hearing can help you out in that people can't usually sneak up on you..assuming you're not in a crowded area. Heightened sense of smell could mean that you reach the burning roast in the oven that much quicker. Heightened sense of smell would technically mean heightened sense of taste which would technically mean that food would taste better too.

-Although it can be creepy the first time it happens, and possibly annoying after that, Phantom limbs could actually be pretty cool. It would feel like you had wings or a tail or different ears..etc. Mind you functionning with these phantom limbs could be bad. Like, trying to wear a backpack while having phantom wings.

..That's all that I can think of for now..@.@;;

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Pageantry

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:39 am


Glad to be helpful. whee

Most of what I know is the things that I've read and much of it is on a case by case basis. But, I'm glad that my post was of some use.

The hearing can get way more sensitive, LoB. Just wait until you start hearing the little high pitched constant "beeeeeep" sound that most electronics make along with the high and low buzzing of the fluorescent lights. Oh, and sometimes computers seem too loud as well with that normally silent buzzing and high pitched "beep" noise seeming louder and way more annoying than normal. Did I mention that there are times when even the computer monitor can seem to bright for your eyes, as can fluorescent lighting? ..Yes, my friends, technology can be the enemy at times for certain people.

I know that I have pretty good hearing. I could be in my room and my parents could be on the other end of the same floor and I can hear them taling. Crazy, huh?

Also, Crowds will either usually be your best friend or your worst enemy..most often your worst enemy unless you're a psi-vamp and you need the energy..but even after that, some psi-vampires tend to go back to being introverted and crowd dodging until they have the need to feed again.

With regards to your meat craving, LoB, I'd suggest carrying some Beef Jerky with you..maybe some Smoked Salmon or Candied Salmon Nuggets(Check the fish department of your local Safeway or your local grocer. The local grocer around here sells 'em) or something. It won't completely nullify the craving..but it should help a little. Beef Jerky is great for those sudden urges to chew on something, though once again, the Candied Salmon Nuggets come highly reccomended. 3nodding

Erm..While I'm talking about urges and cravings..I guess I can import some other random things that might just help a bit..

With energy cravings, I'd say that Pepsi, yogurt, cheese and dairy products, as well as fresh fruits and vegetables can help, but won't solve the issue. The only permanent solution is to feed.

With the urge to run on all fours..umm..Maybe start power walking? Like move your arms a bit at your sides as you walk? *shrugs* It might help.

Hope that was a useful post. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:44 am


Otherkin by definition is people (humans) who think they have a soul that isn't human. That means they are human with out any special features or weaknesses unless it is a human on. Vampires is an exception though. I have also heard that otherkin with wings can feel a pain if someone walks through their wings.

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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:56 am


cowwwcowww
Otherkin by definition is people (humans) who think they have a soul that isn't human. That means they are human with out any special features or weaknesses unless it is a human on. Vampires is an exception though. I have also heard that otherkin with wings can feel a pain if someone walks through their wings.
What my post stated wasn't talking about weaknesses. It was more like the ups and downs. I could easily do something similar with regards to psychic power. Like for instance how Clairvoyance can allow you to see things before they happen so you can watch out, yet sometimes there's nothing you can do about the situation you just received a vision of and you have to see it happen again, this time for real..And to top it all off, you sometimes have no control over when you'll get a vision.

I personally know someone at school who has hearing so good that she can hear the fluorescent lights buzzing. She's never claimed to be Otherkin, she wouldn't believe in Otherkin anyway as she doesn't even believe in psychics and she's like t3h Ubar Sk3ptik. She just has really good hearing. 3nodding

I've heard of certain Otherkin talking about how sensitive their ears are. In one of the Guilds, there was a discussion about how a few of them could hear dog whistles. Which is why I mentionned the sensory thing, even though heightened senses don't make you an Otherkin.
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:41 pm


LoBo_23
to yagi
lol, yeah... good idea, but because of my genes I have bad teeth though stressed I should still try beef jerkey though... hmm...
ah well...

bright lights hm?...
well... I had to turn the brightness on my monitor down a while ago.. but I don't know about that being any proof or anything, I just thaught it hurt my eyes sweatdrop
and it's odd how helpful every post you make is... neutral

sweatdrop Eh?..Well..

...

I just know certain things, that's all. ninja sweatdrop

Besides, I only want to be helpful. So, I'm kinda glad that my posts are useful. 3nodding

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Tycho Marinus

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:56 pm


Yagi Tessil
LoBo_23
to yagi
lol, yeah... good idea, but because of my genes I have bad teeth though stressed I should still try beef jerkey though... hmm...
ah well...

bright lights hm?...
well... I had to turn the brightness on my monitor down a while ago.. but I don't know about that being any proof or anything, I just thaught it hurt my eyes sweatdrop
and it's odd how helpful every post you make is... neutral

sweatdrop Eh?..Well..

...

I just know certain things, that's all. ninja sweatdrop

Besides, I only want to be helpful. So, I'm kinda glad that my posts are useful. 3nodding


'Cept for the fact if I stare at the screen to long my eyes hurt which means I can't read the post. Course that's not your problem...
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:15 pm


Hm... My strongest side is dragon.. For the pain-with-the-wings thing, I always get really paranoid and nervous when people are near my back unless i want them to stare And I have the annoying habit of when I'm in my classes, i can usually see out the window, and my mind makes meh feel like i'm flying there, and flying, and not paying attention... One time someone had to whack me on the head with a book (OW! gonk ) for me to 'come out of it' whee . I know people complain about having "rude awakenings" but i feel if you have good self control you should be able to control your awakenings. Mine is slow and steady, ont all at once, so i only sometimes have exaggerated mood swings. For some otherkins in their teens i think they might occasionally mix up hormones with 'Otherkin mood swings'. I can also sometimes 'live the life' of my other side, good for when i'm having a crap-ish day...

DragonSkies


cowwwcowww

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:49 pm


LoBo_23


to cowww
and I know otherkin are other spirits in human bodies, they still have diffrent souls, thus a diffrent energy composition, so... diffrent emotions and feelings, and you can't tell me that for some otherkin it doesn't suck, I've heard people say the ONLY reason they woulden't want to be human is because they woulden't be themselves...
and i'm not too sure on vampires/vampyres... I heard that it's just a curse and they're not really otherkin, which makes sense, a transferrable otherkin trait? that doesn't make sense... but you can beleive what you want, I'll beleive what I want, I won't delete the sticky because then the vamps would get mad at me, and you guys deserve a right to be there too mrgreen

Lobo, vampirism isn't a curse, that is in myths. They still are human, by some peoples standards, for they have basicly the same needs, besides some weakness to the sun and so forth. They are considered otherkin by the otherkin community. Also everyone has diffrent emotions and feelings, if they didn't everyone would be the same. Everyone feels something diffrent then the other person.
PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:28 pm


I wonder if I'm otherkin, though my problem is kinda weird. At times I can imagine wings on my back, and I often dream of flying, which makes me think I could be fairy.
But then I can meow well enough to confuse a cat... From what I see I have a lot of characteristics of a cat.
Is it possible that I'm fairy and feline otherkin?

(side note : also, I can drain energy from others, does that make me a vampire?)

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Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:32 pm


Same question about the energy draining: I am remarkably energized when I go through crowds: is that a normal thing, or is it some kind of parasitic action? I wasnt sure.
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:46 am


*shrugs* I'm not completely sure about this..which is kinda sad considering all of the reading up I've done on vampirism..But..Here goes..

The drawing of energy from outside sources to fulfil a dire energy need within themselves is in a nutshell what defines an HLV. They have no choice but to resort to this as they have an energy leak of some sorts,(often theorized to be a broken chakra,) and as an end result, regular food consumption cannot fill that need.

All people draw energy from their surroundings and other people every once in awhile, like when they're sick for instance, and they need that extra bit of energy to help them fight off their illness. Considering that it happens naturally, I'm guessing that anyone who does enough meditation and energy manipulation and the like would be able to control it, or rather, to do it at will.

..So..I guess what I'm saying is, the ability to draw energies from others isn't what makes the HLV, but rather, it's the NEED to draw energies from others that is. Taking energies that you don't NEED to take from other people and things, is generally frowned upon in HLV circles from what I could tell based off the things that I've read.

However, there are also sub-consious psi-vampires. These are psi-vamps who haven't awakened yet, or haven't fully awakened yet, and they're completely unaware of the fact that they're draining others energy..I wouldn't really know if that was the case with either of you..I'm not really good at figuring that sort of thing out..

..But, I hope that this post was somewhat helpful.. sweatdrop

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