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[Ayane]
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:30 pm


Read these quotes and tell me what you think of them, does it make sence to you, since lots of people have different views on the show.


Fuzzy Necromancer
BlackHat
Raye_Zala
Fuzzy Necromancer
I guess I'm really just annoyed at the coldness with which the whole soul-feeding is regarded. Nobody brings it up unless it's crucial to the plot. Most notably the episode last night, just dropping souls into the girl, and nobody seems to care or be at all distressed by the fact that that girl is staying alive by absorbing other girls.


Honestly that soul eating thing is one of the biggest defences to Kikyou Bashers (not that I'm saying your one) for the few who can get past the one post of "I HATE HER SHE SHOULD DIE...AGIAN!" I personally think (and this is just my opinion) that she has earned the right to roam the world. What I really want to know, is why Kikyou, a priestess who dedicated her life for good would go to hell? She keeps saying she'sll drag who ever to the pits of hell with her,...but why hell? Is it because now she is corrupt with reveneg? I don't understand. gonk


Are you saying she deserves to stop other sould from moving on to the next life/be reborn because she was good when she was alive? Shes not the real Kikyou, she was never alive.


Even if she was, what right would she have to walk on Earth. She isn't helping anyone, shes hurting people and creating more conflict. Other people shouldn't be screwed over because of her own selfish desires.


Everyone has the right to walk the earth. It's only if they do so at the expense of others that it comes into question.

For example, somebody walks around as a result of being reanimated as a mummified body seeking happiness. No problem as long as they obide by the same moral codes a living human would be subjected to.
Person comes back from the dead and maintains life by absorbing the souls of newly dead girls, then we have a potential conflict.

It's not the fact that she's going around after her death that's a moral issue. It's the fact that she's doing so at the expense of various other dead girls.


BlackHat
I hate when Kagome haters say that. It is KAGOME who is telling Inuyasha that she doesn't care who he chooses. She is trying to lighten his burdan of having to choose. "Kikyou" however, is not. You can't blame Kagome for getting mad, and she only left because of Kikyou ONCE...


Hanajima-chan
Actually, it wouldn't be right to call the soul "Kikyou" It's not that the soul IS either of them. Kagome having the same soul as Kikyou does not make her have the same personality in any way. It would be more accurate to say that the soul in Kagome possess what Kikyou once was and what Kagome is now. Their hearts aren't the same, and never were.


BlackHat
But like...Kagome is Kikyou, when you make fun of Kagome, you aremaking fun of Kikyou.


"Kikyou" may be real, but she is not the real Kikyou. Kagome is. She has Kikyou's soul.You are in something we fans of logic call denial.


Fuzzy Necromancer
Raye_Zala
Fuzzy Necromancer
Demon Kitsuko
nekochan92
Demon Kitsuko
Kikyou... Is not a bad character, she's just misunderstood sometimes. Every action she makes is an action towards her goal, getting revenge on Naraku. That's why she eats souls. She wants to survive because she wants to kill Naraku, sure people may think, 'but that's so cruel eating souls like that!' but really... She has a purpose.
Sure she doesn't have a soul of her own, but I love her. She cares for the sick, loves to be around children and in Saturday nights episode she helped a woman just like her, even though that woman kind of wanted to die. She's not evil, a b***h, stupid, she's a priestess who's quit witted, strong and kind of unpredictable at times.
So yeah... How could you hate a character who has done so much? Accually... I really don't want an answer to that.


Wow. That's so true! heart She is a wonderful character. How come people hate her? But she doesn't really eat the souls does she? I thought they just sorta floated in..........or something..... sweatdrop


They kind of go into her body yes. In a way it's kind of awesome. e.e' And she has a purpose for doing so! o.o!
I suppose it is interesting, but, I wouldn't go so far as to call it awesome. Demons have purposes for paralyzing people and devouring them. Nourishment, pleasure, and self-preservation.


But are any of these demons that are devouring people for self preservation taking steps to stopping Naraku? Or are they just helping themselves?
Self preservation and helping oneself are generally the same thing.

I'm not equating her with demons, but there are some measures that should not be resorted to.
Fuzzy Necromancer
nekochan92
Demon Kitsuko
Kikyou... Is not a bad character, she's just misunderstood sometimes. Every action she makes is an action towards her goal, getting revenge on Naraku. That's why she eats souls. She wants to survive because she wants to kill Naraku, sure people may think, 'but that's so cruel eating souls like that!' but really... She has a purpose.
Sure she doesn't have a soul of her own, but I love her. She cares for the sick, loves to be around children and in Saturday nights episode she helped a woman just like her, even though that woman kind of wanted to die. She's not evil, a b***h, stupid, she's a priestess who's quit witted, strong and kind of unpredictable at times.
So yeah... How could you hate a character who has done so much? Accually... I really don't want an answer to that.


Wow. That's so true! heart She is a wonderful character. How come people hate her? But she doesn't really eat the souls does she? I thought they just sorta floated in..........or something..... sweatdrop
She absorbs them into her body and draws sustenance from them. Thats about as close to eating souls as you can get.


Fuzzy Necromancer
nekochan92
BlackHat
Michael_Jon_Carter
BlackHat
http://s7.invisionfree.com/Inuyasha_Fun_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1324
(I am BlackHat)
I believe most of my thoughts are here in full detail, but here are some simple opinion:.
I personally can't stand Kikyou..Or..the fake one ayway XD

I see her as nothing more than a selfish pitty obsessed twit. I think she complains to much, hates to easily, and is nothing like the graceful and kind real Kikyou (Kikyou, Kagome...same thing. The Kikyou of the past and Kagome...shes unlike either of them)


Its not really that I hate her because shes "A BYATCH", more, I hate her because shes annoying, and so are most of her fangirls....


...How often do you see her complaining, really?

And selfish people tend to be selfish, and not do unselfish things.



Yeh, thats generally it. "Kikyou" does nothing unselfish since she was created
(besides some run ins with a few children)
Her whole existance is hurting more than its helping. Just the fact that she chooses not to rest is bad enough, but she chooses to live at the expence of others. The souls she collects deserve the chance to fly on and be reborn, not keep a useless creature alive. She keeps Inuyasha lingering on his past for her own sake, forcing him to keep on looking at the past instead of moving on.
((I could go a this more, but I am sure its no crap you people haven't heard before)

As for the comment about the complaining, wwatch the series. Every time she talks to anyone, its always negitive, and often about herself.



Kikyou "lovers" can keep on worrshipping their fake Meiko, but I am still totally lost as to why she even has fans..

A real Kikyou fan loves Kagome XD Just my opinion anyway, but think if it this way: If Kagome ever got her memories back, she could become more like Kikyou (yes, the real one..the one we only saw for 4 minutes in one episode!!!!!JOY TO ALL!!!!)


I hate Kagome. I love Kikyo. I will never ever ever love Kagome. I don't consider Kikyo a fake miko. There was only four minutes of your "real" Kikyo. So this "fake" Kikyo seems real to me. Kikyo is a pretty, nice, caring, and a wonderful woman. I'm sure Kagome has some good points.... But all I see is an annoying, skanky, and stupid wench. Kagome is nothing like Kikyo and if InuYasha chooses that b***h Kagome, his loss.
Well, among Kagome's main good points are:
1. A pulse
2. A soul, and a large one at that
3. A human body

Granted, she comes off as bitchy. She gets abusive at times with the sit commands.

Mainly, Kikyo is still dead and lost forever. The Kikyo we have now is hollow, her emotions barely able to occasionally splash out of the well of emptyness that is her inner being.


But, this is all digression. WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT WHO INU HOOKS UP WITH?!

That seems to be the deciding factor in who you like or don't like.



Fuzzy Necromancer
Raye_Zala
Fuzzy Necromancer
Demon Kitsuko
nekochan92
Demon Kitsuko
Kikyou... Is not a bad character, she's just misunderstood sometimes. Every action she makes is an action towards her goal, getting revenge on Naraku. That's why she eats souls. She wants to survive because she wants to kill Naraku, sure people may think, 'but that's so cruel eating souls like that!' but really... She has a purpose.
Sure she doesn't have a soul of her own, but I love her. She cares for the sick, loves to be around children and in Saturday nights episode she helped a woman just like her, even though that woman kind of wanted to die. She's not evil, a b***h, stupid, she's a priestess who's quit witted, strong and kind of unpredictable at times.
So yeah... How could you hate a character who has done so much? Accually... I really don't want an answer to that.


Wow. That's so true! heart She is a wonderful character. How come people hate her? But she doesn't really eat the souls does she? I thought they just sorta floated in..........or something..... sweatdrop


They kind of go into her body yes. In a way it's kind of awesome. e.e' And she has a purpose for doing so! o.o!
I suppose it is interesting, but, I wouldn't go so far as to call it awesome. Demons have purposes for paralyzing people and devouring them. Nourishment, pleasure, and self-preservation.


But are any of these demons that are devouring people for self preservation taking steps to stopping Naraku? Or are they just helping themselves?
Self preservation and helping oneself are generally the same thing.

I'm not equating her with demons, but there are some measures that should not be resorted to.
Fuzzy Necromancer
nekochan92
Demon Kitsuko
Kikyou... Is not a bad character, she's just misunderstood sometimes. Every action she makes is an action towards her goal, getting revenge on Naraku. That's why she eats souls. She wants to survive because she wants to kill Naraku, sure people may think, 'but that's so cruel eating souls like that!' but really... She has a purpose.
Sure she doesn't have a soul of her own, but I love her. She cares for the sick, loves to be around children and in Saturday nights episode she helped a woman just like her, even though that woman kind of wanted to die. She's not evil, a b***h, stupid, she's a priestess who's quit witted, strong and kind of unpredictable at times.
So yeah... How could you hate a character who has done so much? Accually... I really don't want an answer to that.


Wow. That's so true! heart She is a wonderful character. How come people hate her? But she doesn't really eat the souls does she? I thought they just sorta floated in..........or something..... sweatdrop
She absorbs them into her body and draws sustenance from them. Thats about as close to eating souls as you can get.


Goddess Nayru
BlackHat



Yeh, thats generally it. "Kikyou" does nothing unselfish since she was created
(besides some run ins with a few children)
Her whole existance is hurting more than its helping. Just the fact that she chooses not to rest is bad enough, but she chooses to live at the expence of others. The souls she collects deserve the chance to fly on and be reborn, not keep a useless creature alive. She keeps Inuyasha lingering on his past for her own sake, forcing him to keep on looking at the past instead of moving on.
((I could go a this more, but I am sure its no crap you people haven't heard before)

As for the comment about the complaining, wwatch the series. Every time she talks to anyone, its always negitive, and often about herself.



Kikyou "lovers" can keep on worrshipping their fake Meiko, but I am still totally lost as to why she even has fans..

A real Kikyou fan loves Kagome XD Just my opinion anyway, but think if it this way: If Kagome ever got her memories back, she could become more like Kikyou (yes, the real one..the one we only saw for 4 minutes in one episode!!!!!JOY TO ALL!!!!)
Wow, you are very very misinformed ^^

First of all, she helps a lot of people. You said it yourself, she is good to the children, and taught some of them medical tricks to heal. Evil, isn't it? She also helped that old man on the mountain by taking part of him to the shrine. And, I do believe that in all but their last sentance together, she said nothing of herself. She lied about her true personality so he could live in ignorant bliss. Gosh, that witch, I tell ya.

Nextly, the Kikyo Inuyasha knew before her death was shown throughout the entire series. She was in bits and pieces of many episodes, and almost an entire episode in the first season. The Kikyo after death isn't much different... she is just sad. She is hurt, and doesn't have anyone to confide in. Do you honestly expect her to be as peppy as Kagome, or as serene as she was before?

Take your own advice, and watch the series. Also, it is pointless to hate a character. It is pointless to hate anything.


Fuzzy Necromancer
Demon-Usagi
Muutsuki
nekochan92
Muutsuki
animeelfkara
I like Kikyou and don't blame her for hating all things- I mean she was cheated out of her meant-to-be life with the one she loved.


So that means she can hate everyone for no plausible reason [Not saying she does, but that's what you implied, so I'll roll with it]? That's like getting raped by a man, and hating all males for the rest of your life. confused


Kikyo doesn't hate everyone! She loves InuYasha! scream


I specifically said that I didn't imply it; she did. o_o;


She doesn't EAT SOULS TO EVERYONE WHO SAYS THAT! She will give the souls back when she peacefully goes back to the otherworld. She DOES LOVE INUYASHA! Even Kagome admitted it. Kikyo can love whoever she wants.
Except there is absoulutely no evidence of this in the show. NONE. When has any character ever said that? Never. When have we actually seen a soul exit her that wasn't forcibly sucked out by the giant spirit-catcher? Never.
The long-winded theories you make up do not count as part of the show.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:36 pm


hmmmmmm i'm not sure which i should choose. Probally fiction.

gibbiex3


puchamon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:45 pm


Some of those things I read made me laugh... Almost.

Oh Kikyou.. sooo evil. sad
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:56 pm


They just think that "hell" in Japan is the same has "hell" in the Western Term.

They hate her for trying to bring Inuyasha to a paradise? Wow, now THAT'S funny!

IT'S ALL LIES!
And she doesn't just get a 'little' abusive!

Kagome
Inuyasha.. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO PERSISTENT? (He only asked her once if she's mad, this is the second time) WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST LEAVE ME ALONE?!
Sit.. SIT SIT!!! SIT SIT SIT! SIT SIT SIT SIT SIT!

I have mooved


.[..Hachi..].
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:27 pm


Please people... Think about these.
I honostly think that this didn't have enough Kagome insight, but it had some to get me thinking.
I'm still pro-kikyou... but a few things were really great points.

For example...
Yes, she's using these souls for a 'good reason'... To kill Naraku.
But its a sinful thing, anyways.
Imagine you, sick, knowing you'd die...
The only hope and salvation for you is thinking of your everlasting peace in the afterlife...
And then, a Miko steals your soul, combining it inside her...

And relise this... Kikyou has to get MORE souls...
This should make you come to the conclusion that souls don't last forever when pealed from their body and restricted from afterlife.
All these poor maidens are dead, with no peaceful afterlife... Their soul disapearing from this world...
Gone.

Kikyou needs to get her a** in gear and kill Naraku...
I hate to say it, but Kikyou really shouldn't be living like this.
Not only is it a torture to others, but her human souls contains mostly negativity, thanks to Kagome.
She's torturing herself.
I think she should repent by killing Naraku, and die with a clean concious.

Sorry guys, but it's just wrong for her to restrict others from afterlife... Assuming they eventually dissapear once in her(sense she always needs more).
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:51 pm


Sand Ninja Temari
Please people... Think about these.
I honostly think that this didn't have enough Kagome insight, but it had some to get me thinking.
I'm still pro-kikyou... but a few things were really great points.

For example...
Yes, she's using these souls for a 'good reason'... To kill Naraku.
But its a sinful thing, anyways.
Imagine you, sick, knowing you'd die...
The only hope and salvation for you is thinking of your everlasting peace in the afterlife...
And then, a Miko steals your soul, combining it inside her...

And relise this... Kikyou has to get MORE souls...
This should make you come to the conclusion that souls don't last forever when pealed from their body and restricted from afterlife.
All these poor maidens are dead, with no peaceful afterlife... Their soul disapearing from this world...
Gone.

Kikyou needs to get her a** in gear and kill Naraku...
I hate to say it, but Kikyou really shouldn't be living like this.
Not only is it a torture to others, but her human souls contains mostly negativity, thanks to Kagome.
She's torturing herself.
I think she should repent by killing Naraku, and die with a clean concious.

Sorry guys, but it's just wrong for her to restrict others from afterlife... Assuming they eventually dissapear once in her(sense she always needs more).


Arn't they tragic madins. Wouldn't Kikyou be purifying them as well with her miko powers like how she can purify the Shikon Jewel.

[Ayane]
Vice Captain


.[..Hachi..].
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:29 am


ayane100
Arn't they tragic madins. Wouldn't Kikyou be purifying them as well with her miko powers like how she can purify the Shikon Jewel.


Tragically dieing of a young death, yes...
But I wouldn't expect that purifying a soul makes a difference...
She could be purifying it for her own good; to make it's aura positive when being entraped in her body.

The souls, though, may not be disapearing.
My last comment was based off if they were...
Let's think that maybe, after being so long in Kikyou's dead hollow body...
They just lose power and stay there, faintly, until letten go of.
If that's the case, I don't mind so much...

Because, as we all know, Kikyou continues to survive so that she can kill Naraku.
So long as after her death, ALL of the souls were let go... I wouldn't say it's so sinful.
Sure, having souls bent up inside you without their consent seems bad, but I think that if the maidens knew what the whole story and cause was for, they wouldn't mind having their souls delayed from paradise.
Just my opinion on THAT chance...

See, I can't really make a solid opinion because I don't know what Kikyou's going to do, and if the souls(all of them) are leaving her or not.
Even if they're not, I'd just be a little upset... But I wouldn't hate her.
Because, after all she's been through, you have to expect she's pretty confused and messed up in the head.
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:58 am


okay debates are good if ppl respect others opinions but seriously some ppl go too far insulting me for hating kagome!its so stupid!

~Dark_Soul_Fire~


Dark Eruraviel

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:43 am


Kikyou=dead crazy b***h.

Kagome=Heavenly angel.

Tch. That's how they see it. Yet, if you will go and read their flames about Kikyou, it is SO easy to see how much of a hypocrite they are and how much of their flame will apply to Kagome as well. ninja
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 10:33 pm


"Arn't they tragic madins. "

It is maidens. Just thought I'd clear that up ^_^

tetrasmaster


Rainbow Pinku

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:52 pm


Sand Ninja Temari
Please people... Think about these.
I honostly think that this didn't have enough Kagome insight, but it had some to get me thinking.
I'm still pro-kikyou... but a few things were really great points.

For example...
Yes, she's using these souls for a 'good reason'... To kill Naraku.
But its a sinful thing, anyways.
Imagine you, sick, knowing you'd die...
The only hope and salvation for you is thinking of your everlasting peace in the afterlife...
And then, a Miko steals your soul, combining it inside her...

And relise this... Kikyou has to get MORE souls...
This should make you come to the conclusion that souls don't last forever when pealed from their body and restricted from afterlife.
All these poor maidens are dead, with no peaceful afterlife... Their soul disapearing from this world...
Gone.

Kikyou needs to get her a** in gear and kill Naraku...
I hate to say it, but Kikyou really shouldn't be living like this.
Not only is it a torture to others, but her human souls contains mostly negativity, thanks to Kagome.
She's torturing herself.
I think she should repent by killing Naraku, and die with a clean concious.

Sorry guys, but it's just wrong for her to restrict others from afterlife... Assuming they eventually dissapear once in her(sense she always needs more).


Kikyou is one of those lucky ones that survive. She's only doing what she can to live. Is it evil to steal food from the rich so you won't die of starvation? Just because it's immoral doesn't mean she's a bad person.

She may be absorbing the souls and they'll be gone but they're already dead so it doesn't matter, besides it's not like the souls are going to be evil or anything, they're absorbed. Besides you will be at peace, when you're dead you don't know what's happening to your sould, you just gone man, that's it, unless the show can prove otherwise
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:42 pm


Thinking logically:

If Kikyo took InuYasha to hell, he would be with his true love AND would no longer be burdened with the problems of his current time. Then she could rest as well, right?

Kagome may be crushed, but we don't care about her. So, if Kagome could get over her selfishness, she would see that she is just further hindering InuYasha with her mere presence. -sigh- I wish Ms. Rumiko Takahashi had just made a more likable main character. sweatdrop

Synyster the Wicked


The real Tohma Seguchi

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:51 am


Kikyou Kagome fanfiction? Why not just get to the point, like this:
Kagome: NO!! KIKYOU, DON'T! I PROMISE I WON'T BE SO BITCHY, SLUTTY, STUPID, ANNOYING, PREPPY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE I COULD NEVER POSSIBLY CHANGE IN ONE LIFETIME!!!
Kikyou: Too late for that b***h
Kagome-dead.
InuYasha: I'm filled with overwhelming happiness right now...
3nodding So much easier.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:49 pm


The real Tohma Seguchi
Kikyou Kagome fanfiction? Why not just get to the point, like this:
Kagome: NO!! KIKYOU, DON'T! I PROMISE I WON'T BE SO BITCHY, SLUTTY, STUPID, ANNOYING, PREPPY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE I COULD NEVER POSSIBLY CHANGE IN ONE LIFETIME!!!
Kikyou: Too late for that b***h
Kagome-dead.
InuYasha: I'm filled with overwhelming happiness right now...
3nodding So much easier.
3nodding I completely agree with that

PriestessKikyou89


InuYashas #1 Fan

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:52 pm


"But like...Kagome is Kikyou, when you make fun of Kagome, you aremaking fun of Kikyou.


"Kikyou" may be real, but she is not the real Kikyou. Kagome is. She has Kikyou's soul.You are in something we fans of logic call denial."

That doesnt make sense...how can Kikyo not be Kikyo?
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