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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:02 am


A long while back I had an idea to assault the ED with a bunch of yanno actually good topics, basically force the damn thing to head back to a semi intelligent forum by contributing to and creating intelligent threads. However to force the issue we’d make a whole BUNCH of intelligent threads, so here`s some topic Ideas. Any ideas of your own would be appreciated however remember when presenting your ideas don’t blast the ignorant masses with a bunch of information. Pick a broad question, present it with maybe one back up fact, and then hold a second post to place any other facts or information since we know many people scantly read the first post let alone the second.
Anyway
Topics to change the ED I want 50 of them before we attack.

Topic: Will we reach immortality and what will we do with the time?
Premise: The average human lifespan has doubled in the last 200 years. The average Japanese woman (as due to a different dietary lifestyle the average Japanese person outlives the average American by about 5-10 years with less health based complications) will live to be 84. How much longer will this growth continue? Does the body have a finite lifespan or could we learn to prolong life indefinitely?
With consideration to population, retirement age, pensions is extended life a good thing?
With consideration to the philosophical aspect of death making life what it is, is immortality that much of a desired thing? Would the extra time be relevant once it becomes the social norm or will it just be a drawing out of the inevitable causing people to do less and achieve less because they can put it off to an eternal “Tomorrow”

Similar topic: The average lifespan of someone not living in a developed country is about 32. Due to the aids epidemic in most developing countries this life expectancy has been decreasing estimates gauge it to drop to 27 by 2010. How can we live in a developed world where not only the monitary difference between the rich and the poor can be so great that the very age difference is just as astronomical. In comparison to the ages of those in developed worlds we are allowing for the death of children due to simple lazyness.

Topic: What happened to fat being a symbol of the rich?
Premise: a third of the words overweight people live in the developing world, the majority of the obease in the developed world are of the lowest income earners.
The work world and access to cheep and easy food. Why is it that unproccesses food costs more then processed food?

Topic: The art of keeping your mouth closed and your legs open.
Premise: The USA and Britain have the highest teen pregnancy rates in the developed world (and some of the undeveloped)
For every 1000 women between 15 and 19 there are on average 52.1 births (which one then has to consider this is after about 50% of those who got pregnant have gotten abortions or misscarried)
This is compairing to Japan at 4.6 and Korea at 2.9.
About 22% of Americans have had their first child in their teens. Why is this? On one hand Britain has an oddly open attitude towards sex but in sort of a giggly way, while it’s okay to have a boob shot in the morning news to actually be able to discuss what happens when p***s A enters v****a B things spiral a little out of control. There is a “Benny Hill” attitude towards sex or one where there is greater emphasis on relationship advice and sex how to’s more then actual sexual safety being as it’s easier to grin and giggle about blowjobs then to talk about abortions, AIDS, and pregnancy.
The Bush administration on the other hand has increased spending on abstinance only programs by 3000% These programs consist of misinformation of condom effectivness and it’s roll in preventing the spread of AIDS/HIV and focus only on that students understand that abstiance is beneficial, so long as students can understand this, the progrmms are considered a sucsess, meanwhile 88% of teens who pledge abstinacne go on to have sex before marrage. There programs even go as far as to inform parents that to suggest their children use condoms they may be placing their childs heath at risk.
The problems seems to be that we’re giving mixed messages, Sex is fine but it’s contraception that’s evil.

Topic: We declare to the world that Justice has no second chance, and that death is the answer
Premise: 81% of the worlds executions took place is three countries, China, Iran and the USA
The USA president speaks on the sacredness of human life meanwhile demanding that people pay for their crimes. Bush somehow states that the death of criminals will somehow lead to the saving of human lives, meanwhile there is on average a 30% rate of innocent people serving death row scentances some of which are only there due to clerical errs ignoring the ones who are there due to crooked crops just desireing to close cases. (Yes that s**t happens) and this is also ignoring the amount of mentally disabled individuals who are also serving time in death row
Where is the Justice in Death Row?
Where is that justice for those who are innocent?
Can we truly say any life is sacred if we’re willing to take it?
Is there forgivness in the prison system? (Considering the amount of reoffences and the difficulty of returning to a normal life after life in a prision)
If there is no forgiveness would then not Death Row for all prisioners be the humaine thing to do? Or if not humaine, at least economical?


Topic: The Bible isn’t the word of God.
Premis: Considering the Bible was made as a political move to consolidate power in Rome and make a head for a religion that was not originally designed for, and considering not everyone is Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthadox, why is it that we continue to use the same Scripture, especially in recent light where new scripture is avalible? http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:13 am


Interesting. One problem though. I tend to like two, or three active, interesting discussion at a time because I can thread jump between them pretty quickly, and respond to replies. However, more than that, and you'd have people who might ususally respond to all only talking on a few and having generally active people spread out through the discussions. Which isn't quite as fun.

That said: This is a topic that I wanted to create, but since I'm not as well versed in Christianity as I could be, I'm not sure if it makes sense on that plane. Anyone willing to correct me/help me a bit with it?


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(another 'What can God do? thread")

Specifically pertaining to the Christian God.

Children are abused, killed, neglected. Thousands of people are brutally killed. Rape, murder, thievery. Hurricanes, typhoons, tsunamis, earthquakes, fires decimate hundreds, if not thousands more, leaving people, family, dead, homeless, injured.

And some people ask "If God is so powerful/omnipotent, why can't he stop it?"

And so far the main reply I've heard from Christians is "These are human doings, God has given us free will, so he can't interfere/doesn't choose to."

So does that mean that God has nothing to do with our everday lives? Does that mean that there are no miracles?

Allow me to explain. If God cannot stop say, child abuse, or tsunamis because it would interfere with the free will of people, then why would a person 'thank god' when their child is saved, when their loved one recovers from a serious illness, etc.? Why would people pray to God for their say, children's health, when they know that since He can't interfere for fear of messing with free will, and it won't make any difference? Doesn't that mean that there are no miracles, because God stays out of mortal lives in general, and that a 'miracle' would only be a combination of luck and coincidence?

If so, then why would people still pray for things? (ie. different from 'talking to God', but asking for things in particular, like the healing of a ill person, or a specific present for Christmas)

Consider the opposite, that God is able to perform miracles, and that if your cousin recovers from cancer, you can thank God for it. The other children that die from cancer- God chooses to let them die, though he could have done something to stop it. The people suffering from abuse all around the world- God can interefere- but doesn't bother. Would this be a God that people would want to worship?



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Er, yes, check for any logical errors, fallacies, etc. that I might have made. And whether or not this is even coherent. >>

Reinna Astarel


Emperor Fluffzorz

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:32 am


Alright, let's adjust the plan then - a long list of topics that we only use 3-4 of at a time, and post heavily in so as to attract others to them. Hell, if we're lucky, we could wind up with Loki-threads - the type of thing with 200+ pages and thousands of continuing posts.
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