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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:12 am
I originally posted this in a more directly Pagan guild, decided to share these bare basics here also smile :
Aplogies if it's been discussed, but rather fittingly, one of the elements of Paganism I found particularly interesting was the way things were seen through elements. It's such a simple yet complex way of understanding the energies around us, as well as the people around us, or at least a part of them. From all I've seen these elements are Air, Water, Earth and Fire. There's also supposedly the Ether, which is like a background energy for all of the elements, as in, it's where all the elements derive their energy from originally, something they all have in common.
I'm sure all of you already know most of this but it doesn't hurt to have the basics somewhere. My understanding of the general meaning of the elements are something like this; Air is that which isn't solid or tangible, like thoughts, artistic expression, social behavior, etc. Water is basically like the flow of emotions and is related to a lot more of the comfort of emotions, thoughts originating from emotions. Earth is like constancy, practicality (down to Earth) and that which is more solid. And Fire is like the energy behind everything, in activities, in movement, in processes, the driving force.
The elementals of the Air are Sylphs. The elementals of the Water are Undines. The elementals of Earth are Gnomes. The elementals of Fire are Salamanders. The presence of the different elementals around us can have different effects on us and our moods. Each element has 3 signs of the zodiac under it, as well as a king and an archangel. The king of the Air elementals is Paralda. The king of the water elementals is Niksa. The king of the Fire elementals is Djinn. The king of the Earth elementals is Ghob.
The archangels for the elements are the following:
Air - Raphael "Rah-Fah-Ehl" Water - Gabriel "Gah-Bree-Ehl" Earth - Auriel "Ah-Ree-Ehl" Fire - Michael "Mee-Kaw-Ehl"
So I have this book purely on the Faerie realm and it's about communicating with Nature Spirits and Elementals, I'm not done reading it, but it's very interesting so far and that's some of the basic information it gives. There's also a way you can determine what elementals you could most easily or naturally attune to, based on which elements are most present in you. There's two major ways of determining what elements are present with you the most and that's; your Zodiac and your First Name.
Air - Gemini, Libra, Aquarius Water - Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces Earth - Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Fire - Aries, Leo, Sagittarius
As for your first name, it's supposed to help show with which elements/elementals you have the most natural resonance with, mostly through the strongest vowel. The other vowels showing a more secondary play of those elements in your life.
Air vowel: E Water vowel: O Earth vowel: U Fire vowel: I Fire/Water: Y Ether: A
So my first name being Jonathon and my zodiac being Leo, I figured I'm mainly influenced by the Fire and Water elements the strongest. Opposite elements aren't supposed to cancel each other out since all elements balance with each other. I also have a bit of Ether present which basically augments and intensifies the effects the roles of different elements (or the mix of) have in my life. I thought learning that stuff was pretty interesting. That shows some of the different influences on me and my personality as well as what elementals I would most easily attune to. I look forward to trying to communicate in some way with them sometime.
One neat experience I had recently was right after I finished reading another book I got recently called Pagan Ways, I was gonna have a fire with my friend like we often do for the fun of it. Except this time I said I dedicated it to the salamanders since apparently they love and exist as fire. As I was gathering some wood, and approached the area where I planned to start the fire, you know that feeling of heat on a current of flowing air you feel right above the fire usually? Well I felt that just walking into the area, hit my face, before there was any fire started, and it was definately noticeable. I thought that was really cool. Turned out to be a great fire too.
Anyways.. Many of you probably know more about this stuff than I do, but just incase, thought I'd share all that anyways. I'm curious if any of you have elemental or nature spirit experiences to share. And if anyone wants any more information, just ask. If any of that is wrong, just let me know. Thanks.
Discuss:
Elements Zodiac Elementals Nature Spirits Archangels Elemental Kings Paganism
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:37 am
That was very informative, and helpful. I'm quite into astrology and feung shui so I knew I was a fire sign already, but I'm interested in paganism so the rest of it was good to know. I've read up on some of it; Thyna's threads have been helpful, and I have a friend who is of the wiccan faith which also helps.
As for elements, I've always found them fascinating. This might be why I have a problem toeing the line of Christianity...and it's all around me...like nature...but not.
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:57 pm
One question: What if you have a 'y' in your name used as a vowel, and that's the strongest vowel?
I think I'm more connected with the water elemental, but my sign is Gemini...
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:55 pm
Pinkcat Florist One question: What if you have a 'y' in your name used as a vowel, and that's the strongest vowel? I think I'm more connected with the water elemental, but my sign is Gemini... Oh, I did leave that vowel entirely out, sorry about that. Y shows both fire and water.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:45 am
Our of curiousity what is considered to be the strongest vowel, the one that apprears the most, or the first vowel of your name?
I'm either a complete air head or what every you get when you mix air and Ether (light headed???)
xd
BTW I'm Darlene, an Aquarian
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:27 am
Thyna Our of curiousity what is considered to be the strongest vowel, the one that apprears the most, or the first vowel of your name? I'm either a complete air head or what every you get when you mix air and Ether (light headed???) xd BTW I'm Darlene, an Aquarian xp Strongest vowel is the one most strongly pronounced in your name. And according to these methods, you would have a lot of influence from the element of Air. smile
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:34 pm
Aiste Spirit Pinkcat Florist One question: What if you have a 'y' in your name used as a vowel, and that's the strongest vowel? I think I'm more connected with the water elemental, but my sign is Gemini... Oh, I did leave that vowel entirely out, sorry about that. Y shows both fire and water. Oh, okay. So, suppose I have a name like Krystin, and I'm a Gemini. Do I have three elements equally influencing me?
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:51 pm
Pinkcat Florist Aiste Spirit Pinkcat Florist One question: What if you have a 'y' in your name used as a vowel, and that's the strongest vowel? I think I'm more connected with the water elemental, but my sign is Gemini... Oh, I did leave that vowel entirely out, sorry about that. Y shows both fire and water. Oh, okay. So, suppose I have a name like Krystin, and I'm a Gemini. Do I have three elements equally influencing me? Well I suppose it depends how you pronounce Krystin. Chris-teen, or Chris-ten. Either way you have two indicators of fire so I'd assume you'd be more finely influenced by air and fire, water would probably be a secondary influence.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:18 pm
Aiste Spirit Pinkcat Florist Aiste Spirit Pinkcat Florist One question: What if you have a 'y' in your name used as a vowel, and that's the strongest vowel? I think I'm more connected with the water elemental, but my sign is Gemini... Oh, I did leave that vowel entirely out, sorry about that. Y shows both fire and water. Oh, okay. So, suppose I have a name like Krystin, and I'm a Gemini. Do I have three elements equally influencing me? Well I suppose it depends how you pronounce Krystin. Chris-teen, or Chris-ten. Either way you have two indicators of fire so I'd assume you'd be more finely influenced by air and fire, water would probably be a secondary influence. I pronounce the "Kry"-part strongest. But, I have found that this kinda conflicts with my life horoscope (which I did with a help of a book), which says that my sign is heavily influenced by water sign planets, despite my sun sign being an air sign. Oh, and did you forget the King of earth elementals, too? sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:34 pm
Wow, if my name is anything to go by Ive got fire and air as my elements. But I have a sister who's I cant quite figure out (I apparently come from a family of E's) since all of the letters of her name are soft...Monica (mon-uh-ka).
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:43 am
Pinkcat Florist Oh, and did you forget the King of earth elementals, too? sweatdrop Ugh, yea I did. I added him. xp
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:25 pm
Aiste Spirit Thyna Our of curiousity what is considered to be the strongest vowel, the one that apprears the most, or the first vowel of your name? I'm either a complete air head or what every you get when you mix air and Ether (light headed???) xd BTW I'm Darlene, an Aquarian xp Strongest vowel is the one most strongly pronounced in your name. And according to these methods, you would have a lot of influence from the element of Air. smile yup...figures I'm an air head rofl
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:01 am
Thyna Aiste Spirit Thyna Our of curiousity what is considered to be the strongest vowel, the one that apprears the most, or the first vowel of your name? I'm either a complete air head or what every you get when you mix air and Ether (light headed???) xd BTW I'm Darlene, an Aquarian xp Strongest vowel is the one most strongly pronounced in your name. And according to these methods, you would have a lot of influence from the element of Air. smile yup...figures I'm an air head rofl Hey that's not necessarily a bad thing. Air element has good qualities to it. xp
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:36 pm
So I am Air (aquarius) and Fire/Water (Misty). My question is...how does that work..with the 'y' that is? I guess its just the balance between the fire and water?
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:39 am
Aiste Spirit Thyna yup...figures I'm an air head rofl Hey that's not necessarily a bad thing. Air element has good qualities to it. xp I'm not complaining. I like the crafty and resourcefulness that comes from being flighty. 4laugh I'm just very indecisive mrgreen
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