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 Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:28 pm
This thread is a discussion on the relationship of Uchiha Sasuke and Haruno Sakura.
Things to discuss://
[1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura.
[2]Your view on on the pairing.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing.
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip.
Rules://
[1]No bashing this or any other pairing.
[2]No bashing any Naruto characters.
[2]Respect each other's opions.
[3]Friendly debating is allowed.
[4]Stay on topic please!
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:48 pm
[1]My view on the relationship is that it was deep.Of course Sakura cared and loved Sasuke.These feelings of Sakura's wasn't immature.She always tried her best to help and protect him.I'm a bit confused on Sasuke's feelings for Sakura.I do believe that he cared, and loved her as a good friend.
[2]My view on the pairing is that it's darling.It's a sweet pairing and I loved Sakura's devotion to Sasuke.
[3]I do like this pairing.It's my second favorite pairing after NaruSaku.I decided to give this pairing a chance.
[4]Although, Sakura's feelings weren't retuned by Sasuke.I do believe she still loves him.I think she no longer loves him romantically though.It's uncertain because she has not said so.To me Sakura has relized she can't be with Sasuke.Sakura is fighting hard to get a a lost comrade back.Not only for herself, but for Naruto too as well.Of course I'm very confused about this question.I can't really fully answer it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:28 pm
[1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura. Naturally it was much deeper in Part I. They had their moments; they obviously trusted each other, supported each other, and guided each other from time to time. Sakura was probably the only female that Sasuke had gotten close to since his mother died. There's not a doubt in my mind that he once viewed her as one of his only precious people. [Along with Naruto, yes.] And I honestly believe Sakura did love him. She might not still harbor romantic feelings toward him, but she definitely did back then.
[2]Your view on on the pairing. It's a wreck right now. It would have had more development had Sasuke stayed in Konoha, but of course.. he didn't. I honestly don't really know what to think of the pairing right now. You have Sakura trying to feed Naruto in one chapter, and Sasuke forming his own team of dysfunctional Sound rejects in another.. guess I'll wait until they next meet?
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing. I love, love, LOVE this pairing. It is my OTP, after all. heart I like it because.. of reasons I've already stated. Mostly because it has everything I want in a pairing: trust, angst, occasional fluff[all the hugs and stuff], and love[even if it was one-sided, though there is always the possibility that Sasuke loved her back; he just couldn't let her in]. Another thing I love is that I know that no matter what happens, I'll always love it. Even if SasuSaku NEVER becomes canon, it will continue to be my Naruto OTP. [I already like countless crack pairings. xD;]
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip. -Thumbs down- Sakura's feelings are unclear right now. Who's to say whether she still [romantically] loves Sasuke or not? It's obvious she's getting closer to Naruto, because he's all she has. [Team-wise.] While there are little moments that make me think she still loves Sasuke, other times it seems as though she only likes him as a friend now. And when it comes to Sasuke.. jeeze. >> I may love him to death, but right now I want nothing more than for Sakura to beat some sense into him. I already hold a grudge against Yamato for jumping in front of her that first time. I want a real Sasuke vs. Sakura fight, with Sakura as the victor. .. But that probably won't happen. Kishimoto seems to hate having females look strong.. -.- The manga isn't over yet, however. I'll just have to wait and see what happens. :3
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:12 pm
[1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura. A heart renching relationship. It can be angsty, it can be sad, it can be caring...It can seem strangely perfect. DesertRoseTemari (now known as DesertxRosexTemari, after her account was banned) on youtube made a SasuSaku slideshow to the song 'All You Wanted' and I earned great repect for the pair, and like it a lot more. I think Sakura really did love Sasuke, and that there is a possibility he loved her back, and just didn't realize it. But I really think he just thought of her as a great friend, and because he was a little unstable, had a hard time accepting her feelings for him.
[2]Your view on on the pairing. I like it. I know, I used to hate it, but I guess it makes more sense now. I'm just hard to get to for something I don't like.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing. Many reasons. I didn't like it because it seemed too angsty, and it seemed like a pair that would hurt Sakura. My deep disliking for Sasuke also fueled my anti-ness. In a way, I'm still anti-SasuSaku, but respect the pairing a great deal. I like the pairing because it's about 'true love' and it's got a lot of development. It's deep. I like that. (Even though it's 'opposites attract', which I kinda hate. >>)
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip. Sasuke left, he betrayed them. This makes me believe that in the end, they won't end up. I don't think Sakura seems him as romantically as she used to. She still loves him, but if he kissed her, she wouldn't get excited. I think she'd cry, maybe get angry, or scared. Wow...Angst. <3
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:33 pm
1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura. I think it was a very deep relationship in Part I. At first, Sakura loved Sasuke just for his looks and whatnot but after spending time with him in missions and such, she slowly started to know who Sasuke really was and her affections turned into true love. She learned to love him for who he was; flaws and all and was willing to sacrifce her happiness for him. Sasuke, on the other hand, learned to appreciate Sakura. He acknowledge her feelings and was greatful for it. Like Kairi said, after his mother Sakura was the first female he was able to get close to. Enough for him to want to protect her. Who knows...he might've loved her. Just maybe that he didn't want to admit it, let alone show it. I don't doubt that she used to love him but now, I don't think she has any romantic feelings.
[2]Your view on on the pairing. Right now, is a wreck. Is neither crack nor canon. I can say that alongside NaruSaku, SasuSaku was an almost canon pairing in Part I but for now, is not. If Sauske hadn't left, is possible that their relationship couldn't grown and we could've seen more changes in Sasuke. But now that he's gone, is obvious that Sakura doesn't harbor those romantic feelings anymore due to dissapointment and pain in my opinion and...do I really have to explain Sasuke? >_> Still, we'll just have to wait. Sakura might go for Naruto, is what's more plausible at the moment but then again...Kishi might surpirse us.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing. I can't LOVE this pairing more than I already do! Is my OTP and it will always be! Even if SasuSaku doesn't become canon, I would always support it. I love it for the reasons I've already said and I find it to be a deep relationship that shows what true love really is. And like Kairi...it has all that I want in a pairing! =D
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip Awful...simply awful. Pains me to say it but is the truth. Obviously, Sakura got affected by Sasuke's betrayal. Like I said, his betrayal must've caused dissapointment in her and I think she lost some of that love she once felt. Sasuke, like I said...is obvious that he doesn't care about her anymore. All he wants is power...in fact, he was even willing to stab her...>_> I would PAY to see Sakura punch Sasuke in the face cuz he deserves it but yea...i doubt it. =_= At the moment, Sakura's feelings are blurry. She could be developing romantic feelings for Naruto since is the most we have seen...but then again they could just be sibling love. I dont' doubt that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are still there but is also clear that she'll fight him if she has to. So yea...who's to say. We'll just have to wait until Kishi tells us.
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:38 pm
[1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura.
It's deep, angsty, sad, yet occasionally sweet, mostly in Part 1. Sakura was definately in love with Sasuke, and she was concerned for him all the time. But in Part 2, I don't see her with romantical feelings for him anymore, but more of a precious, important comrade. I think she cares more about Team 7 itself, and how she wants everything back to the way it used to be.
Which shows why she cried over the Team 7 picture, but not Sasuke alone.
[2]Your view on on the pairing.
I just downright dislike it. I don't like how in the beginning, it started out as a fangirl head over heels over a dark, cold boy. And I know that Sakura is in love with him, and not just a crush. But I don't like how she is constantly worried, crying, and sad over his words or actions. I just don't think that's love. And Sasuke sees her as an important friend, and I respect that. But I don't think he can see her as something more. He sees both Naruto and Sakura as a precious person, even Kakashi as well...in fact, I find Naruto more important to Sasuke than Sakura. Even in the timeskip, he didn't hesitate to kill Sakura, or Naruto. Even if Sasuke was to be freed from darkness and returned to Konoha, I just can't see him being completely normal and having a normal relationship, since his life has been too scarred already.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing.
Look above. But to say overall, I can't see love relationship where one is constantly hurting the other.
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip.
VERY BAD. Horribleeeee! D:
I also answered this in the first one. ^.^
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:33 pm
[Shimizu-chan] [1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura.
It's deep, angsty, sad, yet occasionally sweet, mostly in Part 1. Sakura was definately in love with Sasuke, and she was concerned for him all the time. But in Part 2, I don't see her with romantical feelings for him anymore, but more of a precious, important comrade. I think she cares more about Team 7 itself, and how she wants everything back to the way it used to be.
Which shows why she cried over the Team 7 picture, but not Sasuke alone.
[2]Your view on on the pairing.
I just downright dislike it. I don't like how in the beginning, it started out as a fangirl head over heels over a dark, cold boy. And I know that Sakura is in love with him, and not just a crush. But I don't like how she is constantly worried, crying, and sad over his words or actions. I just don't think that's love. And Sasuke sees her as an important friend, and I respect that. But I don't think he can see her as something more. He sees both Naruto and Sakura as a precious person, even Kakashi as well...in fact, I find Naruto more important to Sasuke than Sakura. Even in the timeskip, he didn't hesitate to kill Sakura, or Naruto. Even if Sasuke was to be freed from darkness and returned to Konoha, I just can't see him being completely normal and having a normal relationship, since his life has been too scarred already.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing.
Look above. But to say overall, I can't see love relationship where one is constantly hurting the other.
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip.
VERY BAD. Horribleeeee! D:
I also answered this in the first one. ^.^
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:56 am
Remedi [Shimizu-chan] [1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura.
It's deep, angsty, sad, yet occasionally sweet, mostly in Part 1. Sakura was definately in love with Sasuke, and she was concerned for him all the time. But in Part 2, I don't see her with romantical feelings for him anymore, but more of a precious, important comrade. I think she cares more about Team 7 itself, and how she wants everything back to the way it used to be.
Which shows why she cried over the Team 7 picture, but not Sasuke alone.
[2]Your view on on the pairing.
I just downright dislike it. I don't like how in the beginning, it started out as a fangirl head over heels over a dark, cold boy. And I know that Sakura is in love with him, and not just a crush. But I don't like how she is constantly worried, crying, and sad over his words or actions. I just don't think that's love. And Sasuke sees her as an important friend, and I respect that. But I don't think he can see her as something more. He sees both Naruto and Sakura as a precious person, even Kakashi as well...in fact, I find Naruto more important to Sasuke than Sakura. Even in the timeskip, he didn't hesitate to kill Sakura, or Naruto. Even if Sasuke was to be freed from darkness and returned to Konoha, I just can't see him being completely normal and having a normal relationship, since his life has been too scarred already.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing.
Look above. But to say overall, I can't see love relationship where one is constantly hurting the other.
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip.
VERY BAD. Horribleeeee! D:
I also answered this in the first one. ^.^ At first I was like: Eh? Eh? Nani?
Then it made me laugh. xD
Sakura doesn't 'hurt' Naruto...No, beating the crap out of him when he's a pervert is NOT painful. >> And it's not constant either! Loophole!
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:59 am
-[Neji][Hina]- Remedi [Shimizu-chan] [1]Your view on the relationship of Sasuke and Sakura.
It's deep, angsty, sad, yet occasionally sweet, mostly in Part 1. Sakura was definately in love with Sasuke, and she was concerned for him all the time. But in Part 2, I don't see her with romantical feelings for him anymore, but more of a precious, important comrade. I think she cares more about Team 7 itself, and how she wants everything back to the way it used to be.
Which shows why she cried over the Team 7 picture, but not Sasuke alone.
[2]Your view on on the pairing.
I just downright dislike it. I don't like how in the beginning, it started out as a fangirl head over heels over a dark, cold boy. And I know that Sakura is in love with him, and not just a crush. But I don't like how she is constantly worried, crying, and sad over his words or actions. I just don't think that's love. And Sasuke sees her as an important friend, and I respect that. But I don't think he can see her as something more. He sees both Naruto and Sakura as a precious person, even Kakashi as well...in fact, I find Naruto more important to Sasuke than Sakura. Even in the timeskip, he didn't hesitate to kill Sakura, or Naruto. Even if Sasuke was to be freed from darkness and returned to Konoha, I just can't see him being completely normal and having a normal relationship, since his life has been too scarred already.
[3]Why you like or dislike this pairing.
Look above. But to say overall, I can't see love relationship where one is constantly hurting the other.
[4]How the relationship of SasuSaku is affected after the time skip.
VERY BAD. Horribleeeee! D:
I also answered this in the first one. ^.^ At first I was like: Eh? Eh? Nani?
Then it made me laugh. xD
Sakura doesn't 'hurt' Naruto...No, beating the crap out of him when he's a pervert is NOT painful. >> And it's not constant either! Loophole!
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:54 pm
Like someone said in one of the other pairing threads: love hurts.
I'm not going to argue with the fact that Sasuke hurt Sakura, because that's what it is, a fact, but I will say this.. the night he left, I honestly don't think he tried to hurt her. At least not when he thanked her. He knew he couldn't leave without saying anything, and I think the anime did a good job showing his inner turmoil with what he was trying to say.
Yeah, he had called her annoying just moments before, but that might have been his way of saying: "I remember everything that happened, but that doesn't change my mind. Turn around and leave." Because if you'll remember, earlier in the chapter/episode, he denied remembering when he had first called her annoying.
But that didn't work, she threatened to scream, and then he thanked her. He could have knocked her unconscious the second he appeared behind her, but he didn't. He appreciated everything she had done for him, tried to do for him, and he thanked her for loving him.
As for when he knocked her out.. he had no other choice. Leave her conscious, and she would probably scream, resulting in him probably not being able to leave. And Sasuke had to leave.
I also better not hear anyone say Sasuke ALWAYS hurt Sakura, because that's a damn lie. I'll go ahead and list some moments where he didn't hurt her.
-When he stayed with her until she gained consciousness.
-When he began to open up to her.
-When he tried to cheer Sakura up by COMPLIMENTING her; and when he SMILED after succeeding.
-When he demanded to know who the hell had hurt her, and then fought FOR her.
-When he OBEYED her.
-When he said "Not even you can stop me."
-When he considered Sakura [and Naruto] his precious people.
-When he caught Sakura [and looked at her with intensity].
-When he THANKED her.
There might be more, but that's all I listed in a post countering what someone said about loving Sakura being 'OOC' for Sasuke -- which is also not true -- and I have to go eat, so I can't check right now.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:11 pm
^ NICE. <3
That's the thing I think a lot of people don't realize. D: The only time Sasuke HURT Sakura was the rejections on dates and that "annoying" the first time around, and when he left.
And the rejections on dates, failure to be impressed, and when he called her annoying weren't that big of a deal, because since she was a fangirl at the time, he was just trying to get less mushy attention and have her realize that being a ninja is not chasing after him. It's getting stronger.
So all that is really pushing her. Sasuke was her driving force to improve (and being a lot weaker than Sasuke and Naruto, it's something she SERIOUSLY needed.)Shimizu-chan Yeah, that's added for humor. Sasuke hurts hear HEART, her feelings.
UNREQUITED LOVE HURTS. It hurts Sakura, it hurts Naruto, and it hurts Hinata.
Also, I think that if Sasuke had the chance to not hurt Sakura, he'd take it. Note, according to him, he HAD to leave, and when you're his age, HAVE doesn't mean find a better option. It means no other choice. He "HAD" to leave, and therefor, he knew he was going to end up hurting Sakura (and Naruto, too). I think that in 181, he was being very gentle with her, so that he could maybe hurt her a little less. He had already admitted that his teammates were precious, and if he was opposed to anyone else hurting them, I'm sure he was opposed to himself hurting them. Of course since he had no choice, he tried to do it as little as possible. (Of course, VotE, we're dealing with a RIVALRY as well.)
Meanwhile, when Sakura punches Naruto, I'm sure she's thinking, "I'm going to punch Naruto." She has the option not to, and yet she still does. Yes, it's probably shown for comic relief, but it's a fact that shouldn't be ignored if we're talking about hurting people.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:35 pm
Remedi ^ NICE. <3
That's the thing I think a lot of people don't realize. D: The only time Sasuke HURT Sakura was the rejections on dates and that "annoying" the first time around, and when he left.
And the rejections on dates, failure to be impressed, and when he called her annoying weren't that big of a deal, because since she was a fangirl at the time, he was just trying to get less mushy attention and have her realize that being a ninja is not chasing after him. It's getting stronger.
So all that is really pushing her. Sasuke was her driving force to improve (and being a lot weaker than Sasuke and Naruto, it's something she SERIOUSLY needed.)Shimizu-chan Yeah, that's added for humor. Sasuke hurts hear HEART, her feelings.
UNREQUITED LOVE HURTS. It hurts Sakura, it hurts Naruto, and it hurts Hinata.
Also, I think that if Sasuke had the chance to not hurt Sakura, he'd take it. Note, according to him, he HAD to leave, and when you're his age, HAVE doesn't mean find a better option. It means no other choice. He "HAD" to leave, and therefor, he knew he was going to end up hurting Sakura (and Naruto, too). I think that in 181, he was being very gentle with her, so that he could maybe hurt her a little less. He had already admitted that his teammates were precious, and if he was opposed to anyone else hurting them, I'm sure he was opposed to himself hurting them. Of course since he had no choice, he tried to do it as little as possible. (Of course, VotE, we're dealing with a RIVALRY as well.)
Meanwhile, when Sakura punches Naruto, I'm sure she's thinking, "I'm going to punch Naruto." She has the option not to, and yet she still does. Yes, it's probably shown for comic relief, but it's a fact that shouldn't be ignored if we're talking about hurting people.
Also add the part where he tried to kill both her and Naruto. Not to mention when he calls her weak, weaker than Naruto. D':
So all that is really pushing her. Sasuke was her driving force to improve
What has he done to help her improve? Besides scolding, or dying? :/
Frankly, Sasuke's "positive" influences on Sakura aren't exactly his major ones. Nearly all of his major influences on her were through scolding or outright "dying" on her:
- him "dying" against Haku made her realize the harsh realities of being a shinobi
- he told her how bad she was before the Chuunin exams, causing her to become more aware of her own limits (though frankly, she would have noticed that on her own in the chuunin exams. That and, he Could have offered to help her train then)
- he was the target of all sorts of nasty events because of Orochimaru and the Curse seal, which forced Sakura to stand up for her teammates.
- he was down against Gaara, meaning Sakura had to shield him.
- he left Konoha. Thus setting the context in which she had to grow up.
People also say that her Sakura's crush is what made her want to do her best. You mean, like when Sakura asked Sasuke to give up rather than risk being seperated from him? I suppose you find it great too when Sakura actually qualified the Sasuke's revenge-obsessed as cool? She's also shielded Sasuke against Gaara. But then again, she's shielded Tazuna, and she's jumped in front of Chiyo. She doesn't need romantic love to do all that. = As for the crying and (attempting to) hugging, she did all that with Naruto as well.
Naruto, in the meantime, influenced Sakura either by cheering or by just being himself.
- his courage was motivation to Sakura when she yelled at Sasuke against Orochimaru
- he was also one of 3 people whom Sakura took as example in the Forest of Death
- his cheers against Ino triggered Sakura's stubborn will not to lose, causing her to win against Ino
- she's explicitely stated after the Neji match that Naruto made her want to do her best.
- while this had no apparent follow-up, I think it points to a general state she feels when watching Naruto: it Did have a follow-up when Naruto had failed to bring back Sasuke, but didn't give up. She took example and hope in him. Notice that she didn't say "I'll go myself," but "together."
So, Naruto didn't have to scold her or go beserk on her (though he does that in part 2, ah well).
So in the hospital scene, when Sakura hugged Sasuke and Naruto stood there as if slapped in the face, HIS heart wasn't hurt? And when she was crying for him to bring Sasuke back, and he had a pitiful look, and admitted that Sakura liked Sasuke a lot....didn't that seem to hurt his heart as well?
Did Sakura mean it? She was worried, and it was unintentional, while Sasuke knew that Sakrua would be hurt, but did that stop him? :/
As I said, he had a choice. He didn't HAVE to go to Orochimaru. Kakashi persuaded him. Naruto did. And now Sakura. In fact, I think that Sakura's speech had fazed him the least. What Kakashi had said made him think. It actually almost made him stay, if it wasn't for the Sound 4. Naruto's speech and fight...that definately fazed him.
Yes, it's probably shown for comic relief, but it's a fact that shouldn't be ignored if we're talking about hurting people.
If it IS for comedic relief, then it isn't that important. Sure, it can't be ignored, but did Naruto ever carry some kind of sadness or hurt because of what Sakura had did? The problem is that there is no RESULT. What Sasuke had done had a result. While what Sakura does to Naruto, punching him, etc...does nothing but...an exaggerated bruise or nosebleed. :/
...O.o
eep, wall o' text! *hides* xD
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:25 pm
[Shimizu-chan] Frankly, Sasuke's "positive" influences on Sakura aren't exactly his major ones. Nearly all of his major influences on her were through scolding or outright "dying" on her: Most of the time, the truth hurts. And life isn't all peaches and cream. Sometimes you learn things in not the best and most sweet way. Quote: Quote: So in the hospital scene, when Sakura hugged Sasuke and Naruto stood there as if slapped in the face, HIS heart wasn't hurt? And when she was crying for him to bring Sasuke back, and he had a pitiful look, and admitted that Sakura liked Sasuke a lot....didn't that seem to hurt his heart as well? Did Sakura mean it? She was worried, and it was unintentional, while Sasuke knew that Sakrua would be hurt, but did that stop him? :/ Same thing for Naruto and Kakashi. He also knows that him leaving would hurt EVERYONE in the team, not just Sakura. Still, Sasuke wants power he NEEDS it. His life is centered around his ambition to kill Itachi. Still, he KNOWS that leaving will hurt Sakura, no doubt about it. Then, why did he knock her out? Sure, she was going to scream if he left but I believe he also did it so she won't see him leave. If she saw him leave that will surely devastate her and it would just be plain torture. So he'd rather silence her and at the same time save her the pain of watching him leave.
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:25 pm
[Shimizu-chan] That's the thing I think a lot of people don't realize. D: The only time Sasuke HURT Sakura was the rejections on dates and that "annoying" the first time around, and when he left.Also add the part where he tried to kill both her and Naruto. Not to mention when he calls her weak, weaker than Naruto. D': [Shimizu-chan] So all that is really pushing her. Sasuke was her driving force to improve What has he done to help her improve? Besides scolding, or dying? :/ Frankly, Sasuke's "positive" influences on Sakura aren't exactly his major ones. Nearly all of his major influences on her were through scolding or outright "dying" on her: - him "dying" against Haku made her realize the harsh realities of being a shinobi - he told her how bad she was before the Chuunin exams, causing her to become more aware of her own limits (though frankly, she would have noticed that on her own in the chuunin exams. That and, he Could have offered to help her train then) - he was the target of all sorts of nasty events because of Orochimaru and the Curse seal, which forced Sakura to stand up for her teammates. - he was down against Gaara, meaning Sakura had to shield him. - he left Konoha. Thus setting the context in which she had to grow up.
"You did great!" or "You can do BETTER."
Obviously, the first is nicer, but the second one actually tells that one can go father. Be stronger than what you are, ect~
Also, one of Sakura's aspirations was to be acknowledged by Sasuke. We know that because in the very beginning of the series, when talking to Naruto (disguised as Sasuke), she says, "All I really want...is for you to accept me, Sasuke. That's all." (<---Dub, because I think a translation isn't neccessary.) So, if ONE of her goals is to be acknowledged by Sasuke, the fact that he keeps failing to do so helps her strive towards that goal. Just like he refuses to go back to Konoha: it is forcing Naruto and Sakura to do BETTER.[Shimizu-chan] People also say that her Sakura's crush is what made her want to do her best. You mean, like when Sakura asked Sasuke to give up rather than risk being seperated from him? I suppose you find it great too when Sakura actually qualified the Sasuke's revenge-obsessed as cool? She's also shielded Sasuke against Gaara. But then again, she's shielded Tazuna, and she's jumped in front of Chiyo. She doesn't need romantic love to do all that. = As for the crying and (attempting to) hugging, she did all that with Naruto as well.
Sakura's CRUSH didn't make her want to improve. Sakura's need to be seen as more of an equal to her teammates, and Sasuke individually, did. Sasuke's rejection is what made that need originally, for the first person she ever wanted to improve was Sasuke. And yes, that's pretty true, because Naruto's always complimenting her.
Also, Sakura protected Sasuke because she CARES.
Protected Tazuna, because it was her MISSION.
Protected Chiyo, because she CARED.
I honestly don't think romantic feelings had anything to do with it: at the same time, she would've done the same for Naruto, or anyone. SasuSaku fans count this as a major moment because:
1. It showed Sakura's growing up. She is no longer the girl who stands at the sidelines. She will FIGHT/DEFEND, jsut as her other teammates have done.
2. Sasuke aknowledged her (and Naruto) as precious. No, not romantically, and no, not the kind of acknowedlement Sakura was seeking. But it still means something, especially since Sasuke was made with such a cold demeanor. [Shimizu-chan] Naruto, in the meantime, influenced Sakura either by cheering or by just being himself. - his courage was motivation to Sakura when she yelled at Sasuke against Orochimaru - he was also one of 3 people whom Sakura took as example in the Forest of Death - his cheers against Ino triggered Sakura's stubborn will not to lose, causing her to win against Ino - she's explicitely stated after the Neji match that Naruto made her want to do her best. - while this had no apparent follow-up, I think it points to a general state she feels when watching Naruto: it Did have a follow-up when Naruto had failed to bring back Sasuke, but didn't give up. She took example and hope in him. Notice that she didn't say "I'll go myself," but "together." So, Naruto didn't have to scold her or go beserk on her (though he does that in part 2, ah well).
Also, the "together" thing. Duh. Sakura knows that Naruto wants Sasuke back just as much as she does. She knows that they were a team, and she puts the TEAM before herself and Sasuke. (This is why Naruto wouldn't be "left out" if SasuSaku became canon.) She's mature; she won't hog glory that is half Naruto's right, because she's very aware that Sasuke is also very important to Naruto, and that Naruto was closer to Sasuke than she was.[Shimizu-chan] So in the hospital scene, when Sakura hugged Sasuke and Naruto stood there as if slapped in the face, HIS heart wasn't hurt? And when she was crying for him to bring Sasuke back, and he had a pitiful look, and admitted that Sakura liked Sasuke a lot....didn't that seem to hurt his heart as well?
Did Sakura mean it? She was worried, and it was unintentional, while Sasuke knew that Sakrua would be hurt, but did that stop him? :/ As I said, he had a choice. He didn't HAVE to go to Orochimaru. Kakashi persuaded him. Naruto did. And now Sakura. In fact, I think that Sakura's speech had fazed him the least. What Kakashi had said made him think. It actually almost made him stay, if it wasn't for the Sound 4. Naruto's speech and fight...that definately fazed him.
I also think Sakura's speech fazed him the least. (That's really a no brainer...) It was because she couldn't relate to him at all, nor was she strong enough to fight as an equal. (Traits that Kakashi and Naruto DID posses.)
And also not a tough one to figure out: Sasuke DIDN'T have to go to Orochimaru. But really. Oro WOULD have come after Sasuke again, it's was the entire point of Oro being there in the first place. Remember, Sasuke's TWELVE. I'm sure when it comes to FAMILY, and a MASSACRE, he was highly sensitive about it. And if someone comes along and says, "I have what you need to make things right." and PROVES he has the power, then of course, being the twelve-year-old you are, you take the chance! Sasuke's choice was a SMART one. Of course, staying out of danger in Konoha was smartER, but you can't say Sasuke left to cause trouble for everyone. He went to get justice for his family (I just think he went about it the wrong way.), which is pretty understandable, especially when you're a child.[Shimizu-chan] Yes, it's probably shown for comic relief, but it's a fact that shouldn't be ignored if we're talking about hurting people.If it IS for comedic relief, then it isn't that important. Sure, it can't be ignored, but did Naruto ever carry some kind of sadness or hurt because of what Sakura had did? The problem is that there is no RESULT. What Sasuke had done had a result. While what Sakura does to Naruto, punching him, etc...does nothing but...an exaggerated bruise or nosebleed. :/ ...O.o eep, wall o' text! *hides* xD
I have conqured the wall o' text! >D <3
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:05 pm
ENOUGH! I end the evil of text-walls and debates!
Take that to a PM, if you must! =O We needeth not heated debates in the NaruSaku-eth guildeth that is non-NaruSaku relatedeth.
Uhh...
Or you could continue. ^^; *doesn't want to be pummeled*
I'M A FREAKING MOD YOU BETTER NOT HURT ME!
*is still scared* 0o
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