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fair_haired_lass Vice Captain
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 Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:08 am
So while I was posting my most recent announcement for the guild, I went and searched the guild database to see if we were in fact still the only autism/aspergers guild on gaia. There is now one other.
Autism Rights Movement Supporters(ARMS)We oppose Cure Autism Now
They bring up an interesting and contraversial topic.
I've never stated whether I am for or against the search for a cure because I didn't want that to hinder who joined the guild. Either viewpoint is just as valid and both are certainly welcome in this guild. I was just interested in what you all thought about this.
Just in case some of you are unaware what I'm talking about, Cure Autism Now is an organization of parents, clinicians and leading scientists committed to accelerating the pace of biomedical research in autism through raising money for research projects, education and outreach. Basically, they feel autism is something that might be fixable, and if so, they want to find a cure for it.
This has made alot of aspies and high functioning autistics angry. They say that trying to find a cure for how their brain works is like trying to find a cure for homosexuality. Being autistic is apart of who they are and what makes them individuals.
What do you all think about this argument?
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:13 pm
Some people struggle with daily life because of autism. The option should be available because not everyone wants to be that way. Personally, I don't think its really fair for them to say that.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:12 pm
I heavily oppose the "Cure" because of not only moral, but religious reasons.
I believe that the bad parts of Autism and Aspergers can be overcome with hard work and dedication by family. I was raised in a family where the skills hampered by Aspergers were important, and thus my family helped me develop better social skills, better fine motor function, and help me get past having very narrow interests. I was only Diagnosed with Aspergers a few years ago, but I've been getting over most of the bad parts my whole life.
On to the Religious side of my view.
God has a plan for everyone in His world, whether WE as humans think something is needed or not. He has a special plan for each individual, whether they believe or not, and will give them guidance through life in small, or not so small, ways. God Himself meant for autism and aspergers to exist for a reason only He knows, but in time we will know why Autism and Aspergers exists.
Now for some Fun Facts.
Did you know?
That the creator of the Pokemon Franchise has Aspergers Syndrome? Now he's one of the richest people ever, just because of his Abstract (At the time) Ideas and how popular they are with fans both young and old.
What do you think would have happened if they had cured him BEFORE his creation of Pokemon? Hard to say, but I think that if he was cured, we'd either have a more generic and boring Pokemon, or no Pokemon at all.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:01 pm
Foxxwell Now for some Fun Facts. Did you know? That the creator of the Pokemon Franchise has Aspergers Syndrome? Now he's one of the richest people ever, just because of his Abstract (At the time) Ideas and how popular they are with fans both young and old. What do you think would have happened if they had cured him BEFORE his creation of Pokemon? Hard to say, but I think that if he was cured, we'd either have a more generic and boring Pokemon, or no Pokemon at all. Interestingly enough, the frequency of people in Japan diagnosed with Aspergers and other ASDs is three times what it is in the USA. Anime tends to appeal more to people with Aspergers for some reason. I think it's mostly to do with things like the exaggerated facial expressions and shorthand signs that are easier to read (sweatdrops, big huge eyes, those forehead veins, etc). Pokemon seems to be popular as well because there's so much to obsess over and memorize. I personally feel that there should be a cure available, particularly for people with full-blown autism. That variety of autism is extremely detrimental to people's lives, and it would be much easier for them if they had the option to be normal. Unfortunately, it's an abnormal genetic/neurological anomaly and a cure, if it's even possible, is a looooong way off. And really, I'm conflicted over about how I feel that a cure could apply to me. I recognize the advantages and gifts of Aspergers, but at the same time, there are times when I want nothing more than to be normal, and to just fit in with my peers. I always feel like there's so much more going on that I'm missing in social situations and I'd love to be able to experience that. And at the same time, my friends think I'm some kind of eccentric genius and I think that's just awesome. That's not something I'd give up easily just to fit in. For me, it's just a matter of finding my place. As such, I'm not sure if I'd allow myself to be cured. Probably not. But I think it's unfair of pretentious, arrogant Aspie kids to be so against a cure (although we are talking about the sort of believe that we're either extraterrestrials in human form, or the descendents of Atlanteans). In short, I think that it's something that should be pursued and if discovered, allowed as an option for people that want it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:35 pm
The cure is a waste of time, they need apcetence(sp?) not a cure, have they create a world in their head, because of the autism , the cure could that destory that, destorying talents as well..
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:14 pm
HUGE BEARD Foxxwell Now for some Fun Facts. Did you know? That the creator of the Pokemon Franchise has Aspergers Syndrome? Now he's one of the richest people ever, just because of his Abstract (At the time) Ideas and how popular they are with fans both young and old. What do you think would have happened if they had cured him BEFORE his creation of Pokemon? Hard to say, but I think that if he was cured, we'd either have a more generic and boring Pokemon, or no Pokemon at all. Interestingly enough, the frequency of people in Japan diagnosed with Aspergers and other ASDs is three times what it is in the USA. Anime tends to appeal more to people with Aspergers for some reason. I think it's mostly to do with things like the exaggerated facial expressions and shorthand signs that are easier to read (sweatdrops, big huge eyes, those forehead veins, etc). Pokemon seems to be popular as well because there's so much to obsess over and memorize. I personally feel that there should be a cure available, particularly for people with full-blown autism. That variety of autism is extremely detrimental to people's lives, and it would be much easier for them if they had the option to be normal. Unfortunately, it's an abnormal genetic/neurological anomaly and a cure, if it's even possible, is a looooong way off. And really, I'm conflicted over about how I feel that a cure could apply to me. I recognize the advantages and gifts of Aspergers, but at the same time, there are times when I want nothing more than to be normal, and to just fit in with my peers. I always feel like there's so much more going on that I'm missing in social situations and I'd love to be able to experience that. And at the same time, my friends think I'm some kind of eccentric genius and I think that's just awesome. That's not something I'd give up easily just to fit in. For me, it's just a matter of finding my place. As such, I'm not sure if I'd allow myself to be cured. Probably not. But I think it's unfair of pretentious, arrogant Aspie kids to be so against a cure (although we are talking about the sort of believe that we're either extraterrestrials in human form, or the descendents of Atlanteans). In short, I think that it's something that should be pursued and if discovered, allowed as an option for people that want it. Wow, that stuff about anime really makes sense. I think that explains my brother really well. I'm conflicted about the cure. I mean, it probably should be an option, but I think there is a potential for abuse. If diagnosed early, the parents might just decide to cure their child. I don't think that's right.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:18 pm
Although, maybe if it were like a pill, something that isn't permanent, that would be okay. You could take the pill when you know you'll be going out to have social interactions, and not when you're just at home. Just a thought. I don't think I'd cure my Aspergers. It has caused me enormous pain, and I may never be able to live a 'normal' life, but it is a part of who I am. I wouldn't want the way my brain works to change, I just want to understand other humans. But if I have to choose between social acceptance and keeping my brilliance, it's not even a choice. I always choose to be true to myself, and that choice has gotten me into trouble, but doing anything else would violate my soul.
Wow, sorry about that. Got kinda preachy.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:56 am
I do agree with Koravin that the potential for abuse is not only possible, but does happen to individuals with autism. I have mixed feelings on exactly how any sort of "cure" should be made available. I guess it depends on what sort of cure they find, if any.
If my son ever chose to use any method for curing himself, I would do my best to be supportive. But, I would never force him into a treatment.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:51 am
Angry is an understatement for me. Sure my form of ASD has screwed with me in the past and has made it hard to make friends or be 'normal' But *** ****it ADS is not like ADIS! It's a rewiring of the mind that alows us to do things that other's can't. We can thing out side of the box socity has placed around the populus. We can express our selves in ways only others can dream of. Look at the Mona Lisa and the creation be hind the the atomic bomb and all those other things made by people who quite posably had a form of ASD!
Hehe guess I got a little worked up... think I still am... anyways the cure should not happen
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:42 pm
As I'm currently taking 20 pills a day, have heavy diet restrictions, and am considered "cured", I oppose the cure since my meds make me worse off than I'd be without them.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:03 am
Look Behind As I'm currently taking 20 pills a day, have heavy diet restrictions, and am considered "cured", I oppose the cure since my meds make me worse off than I'd be without them. I'm so sorry. I understanding hating the meds, but 20 daily? I've been up to numbers like that, but only for short periods of time. That's horrible. I hope you can get off your meds in time.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:42 am
I've heard horror stories about these folks whom propose a "cure".
No thank you.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:48 am
I... have mixed feelings about a cure. On one hand, I want to be rid of this, this so-called" condition" that makes me odd, off and wierd by society's standards.
But then again, I would like to be me. I fear it might take away my love for art and books.... and also I would like to have my quirks.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:47 am
Sans Serif I do agree with Koravin that the potential for abuse is not only possible, but does happen to individuals with autism. I have mixed feelings on exactly how any sort of "cure" should be made available. I guess it depends on what sort of cure they find, if any. If my son ever chose to use any method for curing himself, I would do my best to be supportive. But, I would never force him into a treatment. Whoa!!!! o_O;...Omg, wait, so BOTH the creators of this guild's sons have AS. Really? That's kind of cool. cool
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United_Martial_Arts Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:48 am
I neither want nor need a cure.
Asperger's is a part of who I am. If it were taken away, I would not be me.
Actually, this whole thing reminds me strongly of X-Men and all the issues Mutants have to deal with in the Marvel Universe.
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