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[Akai_ryu]

I think she may have typed in something about wanting to talk to her dear Anna. I'm not sure. Or maybe...yeah. I'm not sure. I think google may have tossed the particles in a bag and randomly shaken them out onto the sentence. Hell, I think they tossed the whole sentence in and made a Dadaist poem.  

[Revan Star]

Aenakume

Google translate sucks. ^_^; I can't even figure quite what you typed in.

But is there a body of work you really want to read? Voltaire in the original French? Black metal music in German or Finnish? Bollywood movies in Hindi?

Languages are useless without someone to talk to, or something to read, so you're just wasting your time learning a language that you'll never use. (And you'll never really learn it.)

I said something along the lines of how I would like to speak to you Anna. or something like that.

Music would be pretty cool, it would be nice to understand the lyrics of a number of songs I have on my mp3 player after all..
Hindi for Bollywood movies? Those movies tend to be more amusing when you dont know what they are saying, and thus can make up your own lines.

Although... it would be nice to understand the parts of Deepa Mehta's Fire that were in Hindi..as the copy I had watched had french subtitles... so there was some parts that totally went over my head. sweatdrop  

[Aenakume]

Yeah, I got the general gist of it - I just couldn't figure out what the exact words she entered were. Maybe something like: "I would like to benefit from talking to you, my dear Anna"?

You know, if you just want the satisfaction of learning a new language, Indi taught me Esperanto in a weekend. Very easy language to learn. Stupidly easy even.  

[Revan Star]

Aenakume

Yeah, I got the general gist of it - I just couldn't figure out what the exact words she entered were. Maybe something like: "I would like to benefit from talking to you, my dear Anna"?

You know, if you just want the satisfaction of learning a new language, Indi taught me Esperanto in a weekend. Very easy language to learn. Stupidly easy even.

Esperanto?

Its not just the satisfaction =P It would be nice to be able to watch movies, or listen to music or read books that I might other wise never had watched/listened to or read.

Plus, theres the satisfaction of being able to tell someone "******** you" in a language other then English.. and sign language.  

[Akai_ryu]

That's because it's an artificially created language. And Rev? You can watch movies in it. My girlfriend and I watched a really bad Shatner movie called Incubus in Esparanto. Given that it was a movement towards a supposedly universal language, I'm sure you could dig up more movies, books and music written in it.

And really, you don't need to learn a whole language to tell someone "******** you" in their language.  

[Aenakume]

Yeah, we watched that, too. And people often slip Esperanto in movies to create "foreign" or "alien" sounding languages, without actually placing the location in the real world. Like there's Esperanto in Blade 2.  

[Revan Star]

Akai_ryu

That's because it's an artificially created language. And Rev? You can watch movies in it. My girlfriend and I watched a really bad Shatner movie called Incubus in Esparanto. Given that it was a movement towards a supposedly universal language, I'm sure you could dig up more movies, books and music written in it.

And really, you don't need to learn a whole language to tell someone "******** you" in their language.

Yeaahh.. but I do if I want to also insult their mother, explain the perverse acts I had done in bed with their wife or sister and possibly throw in some sort of comment about the lack of intelligence and strong body odor.  

[Revan Star]

Aenakume

Yeah, we watched that, too. And people often slip Esperanto in movies to create "foreign" or "alien" sounding languages, without actually placing the location in the real world. Like there's Esperanto in Blade 2.

... huh... interesting.... although.. Esperanto sounds about as useful as knowing Klingon.

..... or Al Bhed  

[Akai_ryu]

Oh. For that you want Russian or an Arabic dialect. They have fun long-winded insults.  

[Aenakume]

Revan Star

Aenakume

Yeah, we watched that, too. And people often slip Esperanto in movies to create "foreign" or "alien" sounding languages, without actually placing the location in the real world. Like there's Esperanto in Blade 2.

... huh... interesting.... although.. Esperanto sounds about as useful as knowing Klingon.

..... or Al Bhed

That's why the Esperanto people get so hot when people call it an "artificial language". ^_^; They say it's not an artificial language like Klingon (and Al Bhed is just a cipher, isn't it?), it's a constructed language. It's a real language used by millions of people everyday in the real world, and the only thing special about it is that was designed rather than just evolving randomly. There are thousands and thousands of books and website and so on in Esperanto... the only thing in Klingon that I've ever heard of is Hamlet.

Granted, Esperanto only has a couple million speakers, which is less than some of those smaller European languages like Finnish. On the other hand, Esperanto people write a whole lot more s**t than Finnish people do, so, there's a lot to read. And of course, since the whole point of Esperanto is international communication, every fricken Esperanto speaker around the world is always hungry to chat with you.

The main reasons I suggest Esperanto are:

1) It's fricken easy. Like, stupidly easy. A lot of Esperanto people boast you can write the entire grammar of the language on a 3x5 index card, and not many people say they're nuts. So if you really want to actually learn a language, that's the way to go. You can spend a lifetime trying to learn French and never master it, but Esperanto you can master in just a few months. Much more satisfying.

2) Once you learn one other language, it's easy to learn another, then another, then another. The hardest part is learning that first additional language. So if you want to learn, say, German, I'd say learn Esperanto first, then learn German in both English and Esperanto, and it will be much easier.

3) There is actually a lot of stuff to read in Esperanto. More than languages with five times the number of speakers. Plus, because it's a language that most people have to go out and learn, most Esperanto speakers by far want to talk to other people. (Like, there are maybe thirty times more people who speak Italian, but 99% of them have no interest in talking to you.) The quality of Esperanto writing is also generally very high, because these are people who care about communicating. Actually, there was one Scottish dude that writes in Esperanto that they were tryin to get Nobel Prize in Literature for for years. (He won't win now, because he's dead, and you can't win a Nobel posthumously.)

(Speaking of Al Bhed, I think there was some Esperanto in one of the Final Fantasy games, too.)  

[Revan Star]

I'll consider learning Esperanto.... maybe... we'll see...

Right now, I'm some what distracted with obtaining music by Chicago and the Eagles. sweatdrop  

[Aenakume]

If not Esperanto, I suggest Spanish. French is a) a hell of a lot harder and b) a waste of time. Three times as many people speak Spanish worldwide, and, let's face it, you're gonna find a lot more use for Spanish in America than French.  

[Revan Star]

Aenakume

If not Esperanto, I suggest Spanish. French is a) a hell of a lot harder and b) a waste of time. Three times as many people speak Spanish worldwide, and, let's face it, you're gonna find a lot more use for Spanish in America than French.

Yeah... true...... but French is the language of love! ^_^ According to my older sister, everything sounds pretty in french... even "You c** guzzling a** hole"

Edit: By the way, your right, google translations sucks

I typed "You c** guzzling a** hole", got "Vous foutre trou du cul gourmands" and when I reversed the translations it turned into "******** you a** lovers"  

[Jerohan]

Heh. Speaking of languages, I took 3 years og German and one year of LATIN in high school. I took German prioginally 'cause my older brother took German in HS, and my mom's boyfriend at the time was botn and raised in Germany, so Iw anted to have a decent onversation witht hem in German. But my school only did to level 3 in German, so my last year I took another language I was high interested in l Latin. I was intereted in Latin 'cause, really I am a huuuuuuge history nut, especially when it comesto ancient Rome. I figured taking an introductory course to Latin would be grerat for me. Int he end, it was just neat... but not really productive at all. And my German is as rusty as a French WWIII bayonette.

((Yes, I just made a typial American "the French in WWII were cowards" joke. So ********' sue me. ))

Anywya... honestly,I say learn whatever l;anguage you ******** well want to, even if you suck at it. For isntance, I was onmly elementary-school leveled in french, Suck in Spanish like a Taiwanese whore, and did German for fun... But I had fun in them at the time. I've even learned a bit of Japanese because I wantted to (and watch a shitload of anime/hentai)) and my little ro pirated ((yarrr!)) a Roseta stone program... but what I'm trying to get at is, learn what you want to, and have fuN. Yu're life ca't be any worse for it.

Also.. I wrote that while drunk. Shows what I know. LOL.  

[Aenakume]

The reason French sounds so nice to the English-speaker's ear is because it uses sounds English speakers can't naturally make. That's why whenever an English-speaker tries to speak French, they sound like they're speaking while pinching their nose and gargling semen. ^_^;

Plus, French grammar is a lot more complicated than Spanish grammar. (And German is crazy hard. Latin is, like Jerohan says, neat, but, also like he says, pointless.

Japanese is actually 「なかなか簡単です」. (Try running that through Google Translate. ^_^ If you need a full sentence: 「日本語はなかなか簡単です。」***) Buuuut, I would strongly recommend you tackle another Indo-European language (at least, preferably Romance (like French or Spanish) or Germanic (like Dutch or German - English is Germanic)) first. In fact, if you really want to learn Japanese, I'd recommend Esperanto first - because learning Esperanto doesn't just teach Esperanto, it teaches linguistics in general - then Japanese. You don't need to master Esperanto, but because Esperanto is so scientific, if just generally understand it, you will have the tools you need to understand more exotic languages, like Japanese.

*** On a whim, to see just how bad Google Translate is, I put "Japanese is quite easy." into it (which is the sentence I translated as: 「日本語はなかなか簡単です。」), and I got: "日本人は非常に簡単です。" Now, that's wrong. ^_^; I translate that as: "Japanese people are (or a Japanese person is) very uncomplicated." I guess I can see how Google Translate would ******** that up. But, for the money shot, I then tried to translate "日本人は非常に簡単です。" back to English in Google Translate, and I got: "The Japanese are very easy." ^_^;

He he he my nipples explode with delight! ^_^;