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SorceressJacklyn

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:33 am


Doesn't it seem a bit unfair to have Sabs be the only one to have to pick Main Host? Especially out of all the well-qualified nominations. I know I would have a horrible time with it. So I'm just setting up this little vote thread since there was never one made in the beginning. I know Sabs already picked a Main Host but I still would like to know what your opinions are on Main, or even Co, Host for the next ball. Now please, don't take this as an attack on anyone whatsoever. I pull this on my normal guild a lot after our main Captain has made a big decision just to get a feel for what is going on with everyone else in the guild.

I'm weird like that.

P.S. If I missed anyone, it's cuz I ran out of room in the poll.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:28 am


Actually, with the way Lady A's handling things... I'm pretty okay with then decision of her being host.

The co-host, however, I feel we have the right to vote. Since Sabs' chosen the host, it feels a little better for us to choose our co-host as a representative.

If that's the case... I call Lectern or Broken! 8D

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:41 am


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                                  I feel like I should say something. The previous host chose the new host last year as well, based on nominations. And to my knowledge it has always been the host's choice as to who their cohost is, since it should be someone they can easily work with.

                                  I must say that it is a bit insulting that you would try and overthrow Sabs' decision... but know that I will not hold it against you and will be working to make this the best ball possible, whether you back me or not.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:46 am


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                                  I feel like I should say something. The previous host chose the new host last year as well, based on nominations. And to my knowledge it has always been the host's choice as to who their cohost is, since it should be someone they can easily work with.

                                  I must say that it is a bit insulting that you would try and overthrow Sabs' decision... but know that I will not hold it against you and will be working to make this the best ball possible, whether you back me or not.

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Wow. I specifically said this was not attacking anyone. And If I wanted to "overthrow" Sabs's decision, I wouldn't even bother helping the ball. This is a platform for discussion about the Co-Host (since you've already been chosen for Main) as well. If you really want to act like this, I'm not sure how the ball can be "the best ball possible" if you hold so little regard for the people who help make it possible.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:50 am


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                                  And I specifically said I would not hold it against you. This is because I have great respect for everyone involved in making this ball possible, and want us all to get along. It is, however, not nice to come and see that you are questioning my decision to make Queenie Cee my cohost.

                                  If you would like to hear my reasons for selecting her, you are free to PM me about it, if you are this concerned.

                                  Let's not fight please. I really do want to get to know and work cooperatively with everyone in this guild, especially the newer faces, since I do know and get along with most of the old.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:06 am


Um...actually. This was sort of bothering me as well.

See...I'm a huge advocate for democracy. I didn't really think that it was fair for one person to choose the next host because, I mean what if not everyone gets along? What if there are issues? And the person who was chosen how do you know it's not just favoritism over who is actually right for the job?

I mean I'm not saying the host that was chosen will do a bad job I just think that the people deserve the right to choose. Since it's everyone else that will be following this one person...It feels like a monarchy...and in my past experience these sorts of things don't end well.

But...that's just me. I think that people's opinions should be taken into consideration and then give them the right to choose.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:09 am


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                                  I can respect that. I too like democracy.

                                  But I can see how that system would be hard. People could get their friends to vote for them, and a lot of newcomers do not know who did what in the last ball. Having the host choose was a viable option because they have seen the work each of the members of the guild have done.

                                  But if this is honestly something that bothers everyone, I will consider changing the system when I go to choose the host for the 10th.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:16 am


I would appreciate it greatly if you would consider holding a vote for next host.

The system might be hard, but it seems a lot lest biased. (I'm not saying it is biased but that's the way it comes across to me) Because to me having the host choose, doesn't seem fair because the host becomes friends with people over the time, and that may influence the decision. And as I stated before, I think that it should be based on who EVERYONE thinks is best for the job.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:21 am


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                                  I probably would not do a completely open vote for the problems that I stated earlier. But I do see your point.

                                  What about having the nominations thread open and then choosing a set number, say like 5, people that I feel are qualified for the position and who have worked hard, and putting them in a poll for the public to vote on? Would that be a possible compromise?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:27 am


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                                  And I specifically said I would not hold it against you. This is because I have great respect for everyone involved in making this ball possible, and want us all to get along. It is, however, not nice to come and see that you are questioning my decision to make Queenie Cee my cohost.

                                  If you would like to hear my reasons for selecting her, you are free to PM me about it, if you are this concerned.

                                  Let's not fight please. I really do want to get to know and work cooperatively with everyone in this guild, especially the newer faces, since I do know and get along with most of the old.

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I don't think may people were aware you picked a Co-Host. I being one of them. As for choosing based on vote, that's what I think a lot of people thought Sabs was going for with the nomination thread. It confused a lot of people and since I was fielding questions from newcomers, that's what prompted this thread to begin with.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:29 am


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                                  Okay, I can understand your purposes.

                                  But yes, I chose Queenie Cee and made an announcement yesterday. If you look, there's an announcement thread that says: Cohost Chosen: Queenie Cee. I think I understand what you were getting at now that Hester stated that it was a problem with the system, not the decisions.

                                  If you read my previous post, I suggested a way I think is fair for me to choose the next host to avoid controversy like this again. Mind giving me your opinions on that?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:30 am


I personally think we're beating a dead horse here. Angel is the host, and has chosen Queenie to be her co-host. So far they haven't given us any reason to think they would have been bad choices besides our own personal favoritism, and how is THAT fair? Did I nominate Angel? No. Is she doing a good job? Yes.

Right now I think this is just something that, as Angel has said, would be better served in PM form between the involved parties. What this is doing more than anything, in my opinion, is causing conflict. People are going to see this as an arena in which they can complain because the host they nominated wasn't chosen, and I don't think that's really how we want to start of this year.

No matter if we like it or not, this is the way things are. And as much as I love democracy, I have to agree with Angel in that I can see the problems in a vote for the host. It would become a popularity contest over anything else, and that's even less fair! If we really have a problem, for next year, what if we go with a system like this?

People nominate different hosts, and the past host chooses the top two who would do the best job. Then the guild votes on who the host will be. The problem with this idea is the fact that it's going to take a hell of a lot more time.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:33 am


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                                  Thank you Kala.

                                  And lol, I love you. I think I suggested pretty much the same system while you were typing~ If you go a few posts up you'll see that I suggested having the nominations thread and then choosing a set number of people I thought were qualified to be voted on.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:37 am


So I saw after my epic rant was complete. sweatdrop Oops?

But yeah, I just don't think it's doing us any favors to be sitting here banging our heads against the wall. If we really have a problem with it and want to change the SYSTEM, then why not make this thread about the future way the host is chosen, instead of who we would have preferred?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:38 am


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                                  Lol, at least we know it's a reasonable idea if two of us thought about it~

                                  And thank you.

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