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Fringie Jester


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:49 pm


No, I did not mean anything by it. I was just saying this is how we/I feel about certain things, is all. I think feelings like this, is how one is raised. I was raised to believe doing drugs is wrong.

I didn't mean that everyone has to feel that way and I didn't mean that everyone has to believe like I do. Everyone has their standards of what is right and what is wrong. It is different for everyone and I accept that. I just meant that it isn't a normal christian thing to be doing is all and not everyone is a christian, there are different relegions out there.

Which is why I said earlier, that I think they probably should legalize it.
To cut down on crime rates.
I am not saying that you did anything, crime wise, but there are others out there who do.

and I didn't say that you were wrong. But you were putting all christians into the same category, which is what it sounded like to me.(There are more than one type of christian, there are Baptist, Jahovah Witness, mormons, etc) I don't know alot about other christian cultures. I was simply stating. That it was not how we do things. But other christian cultures may do as you said in your other post. I didn't say they didn't. I think that you misunderstood what I said. I said "it depends on what section of christianity that you are talking about." Where did I say that you were wrong?

Sorry if it sounded like I was talking down to you. I wasn't. I didn't mean anything by it and I am sorry...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:34 pm


I'm against the legalization of it. If it's legalized then those of us who wouldn't want their children exposed to it would have to worry about their children picking up on it and starting an addictive habit that is already a problem with cigarettes due to the nicotine. If anything it's just another way for big corporate businesses to exploit less fortunates for their money by getting them addicted to it. Drug dealers know what's in the stuff they're selling to you, that's why they make so much..you crave the stuff and you have to keep going back again and again so they get a steady market.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:14 am


Drizzt88
I'm against the legalization of it. If it's legalized then those of us who wouldn't want their children exposed to it would have to worry about their children picking up on it and starting an addictive habit that is already a problem with cigarettes due to the nicotine. If anything it's just another way for big corporate businesses to exploit less fortunates for their money by getting them addicted to it. Drug dealers know what's in the stuff they're selling to you, that's why they make so much..you crave the stuff and you have to keep going back again and again so they get a steady market.


Think of the poverty level... If it was legal, wouldn't you think there would be more poor people out there? I don't see that really helping the economy out in the end... More like it would add more and more people to Welfare...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:36 am


Eldarwen Half-Elven
Drizzt88
I'm against the legalization of it. If it's legalized then those of us who wouldn't want their children exposed to it would have to worry about their children picking up on it and starting an addictive habit that is already a problem with cigarettes due to the nicotine. If anything it's just another way for big corporate businesses to exploit less fortunates for their money by getting them addicted to it. Drug dealers know what's in the stuff they're selling to you, that's why they make so much..you crave the stuff and you have to keep going back again and again so they get a steady market.


Think of the poverty level... If it was legal, wouldn't you think there would be more poor people out there? I don't see that really helping the economy out in the end... More like it would add more and more people to Welfare...


Yeah...because people would be spending more and more of their paychecks on it much like the problem we have with alcohol. Could a parent that smokes marijuanna really show a good example to his or her child to grow up to be a stoner oneday? How is a parent going to feel about their kid burning out all of their braincells and talking like Ozzy when they get older.

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Fringie Jester


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:02 pm


Drizzt88
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I'm against the legalization of it. If it's legalized then those of us who wouldn't want their children exposed to it would have to worry about their children picking up on it and starting an addictive habit that is already a problem with cigarettes due to the nicotine. If anything it's just another way for big corporate businesses to exploit less fortunates for their money by getting them addicted to it. Drug dealers know what's in the stuff they're selling to you, that's why they make so much..you crave the stuff and you have to keep going back again and again so they get a steady market.


Think of the poverty level... If it was legal, wouldn't you think there would be more poor people out there? I don't see that really helping the economy out in the end... More like it would add more and more people to Welfare...


Yeah...because people would be spending more and more of their paychecks on it much like the problem we have with alcohol. Could a parent that smokes marijuanna really show a good example to his or her child to grow up to be a stoner oneday? How is a parent going to feel about their kid burning out all of their braincells and talking like Ozzy when they get older.

I agree. I mean who would honestly stand in front of their kid and smoke that crap, and say "Do this when you get older, it's cool" I mean it would be like saying "I'm proud to be a drug addict! Please join me."
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:05 pm


Drizzt88
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Drizzt88
I'm against the legalization of it. If it's legalized then those of us who wouldn't want their children exposed to it would have to worry about their children picking up on it and starting an addictive habit that is already a problem with cigarettes due to the nicotine. If anything it's just another way for big corporate businesses to exploit less fortunates for their money by getting them addicted to it. Drug dealers know what's in the stuff they're selling to you, that's why they make so much..you crave the stuff and you have to keep going back again and again so they get a steady market.


Think of the poverty level... If it was legal, wouldn't you think there would be more poor people out there? I don't see that really helping the economy out in the end... More like it would add more and more people to Welfare...


Yeah...because people would be spending more and more of their paychecks on it much like the problem we have with alcohol. Could a parent that smokes marijuanna really show a good example to his or her child to grow up to be a stoner oneday? How is a parent going to feel about their kid burning out all of their braincells and talking like Ozzy when they get older.

You do realize that not only is bud inexpensive when compared with other "drugs" but it's also non-addicting. And yes, my father did set a good example for me because he told me not to smoke even though he does, I didn't listen, but that's not his fault. My mom used to do acid, but I avoid that s**t like the plague. My parents talked to me about drugs and alcohol, just because you smoke and drink doesn't mean you'll encourage your kids to do it or s**t like that.

You, sir, are ignorant and uninformed and have posted something that only makes you look like an arse to me simply because you just insulted my entire family by saying that we couldn't raise a child to be anything but a stoner simply because we smoke pot, we know what we're smoking and we know not to encourage children to smoke. I tried pot partly because my dad smoked, but all that did was reassure me that it wasn't bad, I would have smoked it regardless of whether or not he did.

Please refer to the links I posted earlier if you want to actually learn about cannabis smile

@HouseMDfan I'm sorry about that, I was butthurt cause I hadn't toked all day, please forgive my rudeness. smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:11 pm


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Drizzt88
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Drizzt88
I'm against the legalization of it. If it's legalized then those of us who wouldn't want their children exposed to it would have to worry about their children picking up on it and starting an addictive habit that is already a problem with cigarettes due to the nicotine. If anything it's just another way for big corporate businesses to exploit less fortunates for their money by getting them addicted to it. Drug dealers know what's in the stuff they're selling to you, that's why they make so much..you crave the stuff and you have to keep going back again and again so they get a steady market.


Think of the poverty level... If it was legal, wouldn't you think there would be more poor people out there? I don't see that really helping the economy out in the end... More like it would add more and more people to Welfare...


Yeah...because people would be spending more and more of their paychecks on it much like the problem we have with alcohol. Could a parent that smokes marijuanna really show a good example to his or her child to grow up to be a stoner oneday? How is a parent going to feel about their kid burning out all of their braincells and talking like Ozzy when they get older.

I agree. I mean who would honestly stand in front of their kid and smoke that crap, and say "Do this when you get older, it's cool" I mean it would be like saying "I'm proud to be a drug addict! Please join me."

Don't assume that because you smoke pot you're going to encourage your kids to smoke it. What the ******** is this s**t? Do you people honestly think that I would sit there and watch my dad take hits from a bong and he would just tell me how great it was and that I should do it? NO! Smokers don't encourage their kids to take up smoking those little white death sticks and it's the same way with stoners.

You assume that we're all stupid and just encouraging everyone to smoke, not sure if you know this but there is a general rule of "no grass in the field, no grass shall you yield."

I'm sorry, but I'm actually pretty pissed that you would even say this. I'm ready to just say ******** you because you and Drizzt have both just spoken poorly of me AND my family.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:55 pm


You do realise that the younger children look up to their parents right? They want to be just like them. I know this because it has happened to a friends cousin. Take basic psychology/child development skills, and I think that you would think different of what you just said. I have been in training to be a teacher and we have to know how children learn from the day that they are born. They learn by mimicing their parents.

and did you also just say you and your family? Oh wow, that just helped my argument even more.

I didn't say that he would say that "do it because I am doing it" type of thing, I said that it would be like saying that. Because children mimic their parents.

Why would you want your kid to grow up and be an addict? Alot of people I have talked to regret the day they started. Why would you want that for your kids?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:33 pm


Hah...that's amusing actually. Allow me to elaborate on just how "uninformed" I am.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:52 pm


Doctor Yueh
I figured this would be the wrong place to ask for an opinion on cannabis.

@BlackLaw I'm not even sure how to approach this. You... You just... Okay let's start here, cannabis smoke IS more dangerous in that it contains more carcinogens than cigarettes, however it is not the THC that is dangerous it is the burning plant matter, all smoke is bad for you. There are no known cases of a person of animal or ANYTHING being allergic to cannabis. You probably just aren't used to being exposed to smoke for extended periods.

Now, by legalizing marijuana for medicinal and industrial use is exactly what our country needs, think about it, cannabis can be used for hemp which let me give you a little list of it's uses here; Food, fuel, clothing, building material, cosmetics, paints, and paper, just to name a few wink . Medical marijuana has been in use for centuries, we use it now with artificial THC to treat the same things that we use the real stuff for, except it has worse side-effects.

Marijuana is not physically addictive unlike alcohol, nicotine, heroin, morphine, any tranquilizer, oh and every single anti-depressant in existence. Although, fun-fact, you will never find a stoner that uses tranquilizers, anti-depressants or just about any other bullshit medication, we don't need them, we're happy and healthy.

Did you know that there has never been a single death related to marijuana? Did you know that there has never been a violent crime committed over marijuana?

The Union - The Business Behind Getting High

The Shafer Report, commissioned by President Richard M. Nixon. wink

Alright, I'll admit that I honestly don't know very much about marijuana, its history, or its effects. I'm a lazy, uninformed deadbeat. But one can figure that out by having one conversation with me, no?
But my point is that it more than likely isn't all that necessary to legalize the use of pot. I'd like to believe that using marijuana is harmless, but the stupid anti-drug rallies that constantly occur in my area have slowly convinced me otherwise.
I'm terribly sorry if I've offended anyone just now. Such was not my intention.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:21 pm


THE ADMIN SPEAKS

Ok everyone, lets all calm down for a moment here.
I can see that mostly everyone here has a very strong stance one way or the
other pertaining to this, rather sensitive issue.

Doctor Yueh, I can see that you feel particularly strongly about legalization of
cannabis.To that end, I agree with you (for reasons which are my own) However, the means by which you argue your case leave quite a bit to be desired. You have failed to show respect for the opinions of other posters in this thread (opinions which you yourself asked them to divulge), and have argued your opinions in a much less than eloquent manner. One of the guilds cardinal rules is that we must show respect for the opinions of others, so I ask that you be more tactful in your approach to this issue.

That goes for everyone too, calm down and try to write a comment free from personal insults to other posters, if your unable to do this, don't post, go find another thread that you find less inflammatory. If this keeps up, Ill be forced to lock out this thread.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:58 pm


If it were legalized it would bring money into the economy, and would be taxable. That is good. It would be difficult to regulate though.

First of all it NEEDS to be de-criminalized. Having people waste tax payer money in jail for every joint they happen to have around is just ridiculous.

They need to go after big time, hard drug dealers.

I smoke weed. I do not do anything else. I do not want any other drug to be legalized ever.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:01 am


The thing is, unless marijuana is used for religious/research purposes, I'm up for criminalizing it. The thing is, many idiots want to use marijuana to get rich quick at the expense of other people. Besides, many holy men in India (They are called sadhus) do smoke marijuana, but they are suffering from the new types that come as a result of those criminal syndicates pushing marijuana everywhere. Of course, sadhus don't get marijuana from criminal syndicates, but the market for marijuana is flooded with marijuana from criminal sources.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:17 pm


Doctor Yueh, I applaud your anger as I feel it is in good reason.

However, in turn, I do not condone the handling of it in your arguements.


I just have to wonder for a second, if a parent were to have a child, too young, I'm certain that parent would persuade their offspring to conceive early in their lives too. Afterall that would be "cool."

Maybe a father who enlisted in the war coming back with PTSD, I'm sure he would say to his son; "Join the army - it's COOL."

There must be plenty of mothers who had to get by in strip clubs to feed her little girls back at the home front. Oh at that little girl's sweet sixteen I'm sure these mothers will be urging them to be strippers, as it's the "cool" thing to do.

Just because a parent does it, doesn't mean they'll want their children to be doing it.

Bloomberg has two daughters. One is much into his politics and the other into horse racing. I'm sure he exposed both his children to his work, but if one takes to it then she does. If she doesn't, how sincere would it be to force her into it? Children have minds of their own, they are their own people. Even if a parent were to say this is cool, do this - chances are it won't happen unless the growing mind wants it to.Usually anyway a child will refuse to get into a habit, a career, a hobby, that the parent is constantly urging it to. Pretty commonly called adolescent rebellion. Quite common knowledge. Psych 101.

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As already stated marijauna is not addictive. If a child is addicted to it, it's because they have an addictive personality and you should probably be happy that their addiction lies with one of the least harmful drugs out there. Even cigs (which ARE physically addictive) are worse and those cancer sticks are legal. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact the Fed Gov't can make money of it. Hmm.

Also... Not every drug dealer is a high roller. Or a pusher for that matter. Marijuana is not only inexpensive but easy to access. Those high rolling drug dealers are often not selling marijuana, but substances that are likely to send you to rehab once you get into it. Just to name a few so you can direct your hatred for real criminal drug dealers; cocaine, morphine, heroin.

Those are hard drugs. Marijuana is dirt compared to them.

While I'm on that note, research is done on these drugs. The military in particular has done some disgusting things with their research. There have been vets coming home addicted to the painkillers they were given in war. The military has tried to find truth-syrums by testing both unsuspecting people and volunteers with pot, acid, and other substances.

Our research has gotten us to the point where marijuana IS used for CANCER PATIENTS. And not solely them.
It has mmedicalllallllalalll uses. MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

How bad could it really be?

There's always research being done, it doesn't have to be legal for that to happen.


In two words; legalize marijuana.

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