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 Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:53 pm
fabifly Ko-neko_Chan
I will support homosexual and bisexual people.
I will NOT support thier lifestyle.
I WILL make an ATTEMPT to understand thier reasons
behind WHY they are the way they are.
I do not and will not accept that God made them that way.
I believe (again) that homosexuality is a CHOICE.
(And bisexuality).
Hope that helped!
I agree with you there. That's how I feel, personally, about a lot of things.
Thank ye! ^_^
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:56 pm
Darem Right. I myself have no gay friends. But, I do believe they can repent. I believe that even the thought are bad because it is lusting after another person of one's own sex. It's wrong to lust after someone of the opposite sex. 3nodding heart
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:36 pm
Ko-neko_Chan NewFoundLight Darem Well, most of you probably know where I stand on this issue. I don't believe a gay or bi can get into heaven. Why? Because I don't believe there can be a gay or bi Chrstian. Better get ready for the hate letters. A gay or Bi, is a sinner, salvation for sinners therefore if they repent they go to heaven, I think Someone has to practice homosexuality and Bisexuality to be excluded from heaven rather than just having thoughts and feelings.
This is where I disagree.
You can commit murder and lust in your heart.
I also feel that you can commit homosexuality and
bisexuality in the heart. It does not have to be physical.
That's just what I believe.
Biblical evidence please?
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:38 pm
Ko-neko_Chan Darem Right. I myself have no gay friends. But, I do believe they can repent. I believe that even the thought are bad because it is lusting after another person of one's own sex. It's wrong to lust after someone of the opposite sex. 3nodding heart oh yea thats right, but what if they don't want to have those thoughts or feelings?, but they still have them...like some of us do with some sins.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:52 pm
It says in the bible that homosexuallity is a sin. Woman was made for man. So no II do not think so but I do not hate gays/bis I do in fact have friends that are gay/bi. Although I'm not sure I wll fully be able to accept them.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:27 pm
NewFoundLight Ko-neko_Chan NewFoundLight Darem Well, most of you probably know where I stand on this issue. I don't believe a gay or bi can get into heaven. Why? Because I don't believe there can be a gay or bi Chrstian. Better get ready for the hate letters. A gay or Bi, is a sinner, salvation for sinners therefore if they repent they go to heaven, I think Someone has to practice homosexuality and Bisexuality to be excluded from heaven rather than just having thoughts and feelings.
This is where I disagree.
You can commit murder and lust in your heart.
I also feel that you can commit homosexuality and
bisexuality in the heart. It does not have to be physical.
That's just what I believe.
Biblical evidence please? I didn't say there was biblical evidence; I simply stated what I believed.
3nodding
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:59 pm
At youth group two weeks ago we were talking about people beening gay. I believe it depends on your faith. If you are gay and a christian you would know being gay is wrong in God's eyes. And maybe you need to rethink about it being all right and make a few choose. I also belive you can be bi but still have a relationship with Chirst as long as you don't do things with males.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:46 pm
NewFoundLight Ko-neko_Chan NewFoundLight Darem Well, most of you probably know where I stand on this issue. I don't believe a gay or bi can get into heaven. Why? Because I don't believe there can be a gay or bi Chrstian. Better get ready for the hate letters. A gay or Bi, is a sinner, salvation for sinners therefore if they repent they go to heaven, I think Someone has to practice homosexuality and Bisexuality to be excluded from heaven rather than just having thoughts and feelings.
This is where I disagree.
You can commit murder and lust in your heart.
I also feel that you can commit homosexuality and
bisexuality in the heart. It does not have to be physical.
That's just what I believe.
Biblical evidence please? Jesus brings this up at some point...I can't get it right now (working), but it's there. If someone else doesn't get it for you, I will when I have the chance.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:07 pm
Darem Well, most of you probably know where I stand on this issue. I don't believe a gay or bi can get into heaven. Why? Because I don't believe there can be a gay or bi Chrstian. Better get ready for the hate letters. [/colr] see thats how i feel i mean if you love god you lisin to all the word and it says not to sleep with the same sex so i guess i will get hate mall too
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:42 pm
I do think that homosexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals.. any kind of "sexual", basically, will get into Heaven. It doesn't matter what their orientation is, so long as they have accepted God.
I don't think it is a choice to be gay. Who would choose that, when there is the risk of physical abuse, being disowned, heck.. even death? It just seems silly. Plus, I have some gay and lesbian friends who didn't choose to be the way they are. They just are. How I see it, is that God created everyone as he wanted them to be. Larger in size, or slimer. Blonde hair, or brunette. (Or another colour, yes.) Homosexual or heterosexual. He loves everyone because he made them. However, from there it is our choices that will further more get us into Heaven.. simply accepted God and Jesus Christ, like I said.
That's my personal opinion on the matter, anyway, in a more simple way.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:01 pm
Narucard, Chan look at my other post up top.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:04 pm
Kaiina I do think that homosexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals.. any kind of "sexual", basically, will get into Heaven. It doesn't matter what their orientation is, so long as they have accepted God. I don't think it is a choice to be gay. Who would choose that, when there is the risk of physical abuse, being disowned, heck.. even death? It just seems silly. Plus, I have some gay and lesbian friends who didn't choose to be the way they are. They just are. How I see it, is that God created everyone as he wanted them to be. Larger in size, or slimer. Blonde hair, or brunette. (Or another colour, yes.) Homosexual or heterosexual. He loves everyone because he made them. However, from there it is our choices that will further more get us into Heaven.. simply accepted God and Jesus Christ, like I said. That's my personal opinion on the matter, anyway, in a more simple way. about that choosing thing sometimes people make sub consciensous choices.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:12 pm
NewFoundLight Kaiina I do think that homosexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals.. any kind of "sexual", basically, will get into Heaven. It doesn't matter what their orientation is, so long as they have accepted God. I don't think it is a choice to be gay. Who would choose that, when there is the risk of physical abuse, being disowned, heck.. even death? It just seems silly. Plus, I have some gay and lesbian friends who didn't choose to be the way they are. They just are. How I see it, is that God created everyone as he wanted them to be. Larger in size, or slimer. Blonde hair, or brunette. (Or another colour, yes.) Homosexual or heterosexual. He loves everyone because he made them. However, from there it is our choices that will further more get us into Heaven.. simply accepted God and Jesus Christ, like I said. That's my personal opinion on the matter, anyway, in a more simple way. about that choosing thing sometimes people make sub consciensous choices. Yes, I agree. Some people do choose, whether they realize it or not. But they aren't true homosexuals or bisexuals. Many "bi" and "gay" people lately are claiming they are that because it seems to be one of the latest trends. Some do because they have been abused by the opposite sex, and from that normally subconsciously think that their own sex won't hurt them like the opposite sex has. (Many times it happens more to female, simply because a lot of the time it seems to be the males abusing females.. I think? Unless I'm not hearing the correct information.) I just recently read The Color Purple and in it, Celie as a lesbian relationship with another female. Many people feel that she does seeing as she was abused by both her 'father' and her husband. Good example, even if it is a book. However, many homosexuals don't choose to be gay. They simply are. No one is quite sure why, whether they were born like that for some reason, or what. Personally I do think that the true ones are born that way, and there were a few posts in the ED saying how scientifically, gay male brains are different or.. something of the sort, I'm not sure. So technically, I guess I should edit what I said before by saying I think it is a combination of some people choosing to be that way, whether consciouslly or not, and some simply being that way because it is who they are.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:14 am
Kaiina NewFoundLight Kaiina I do think that homosexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals.. any kind of "sexual", basically, will get into Heaven. It doesn't matter what their orientation is, so long as they have accepted God. I don't think it is a choice to be gay. Who would choose that, when there is the risk of physical abuse, being disowned, heck.. even death? It just seems silly. Plus, I have some gay and lesbian friends who didn't choose to be the way they are. They just are. How I see it, is that God created everyone as he wanted them to be. Larger in size, or slimer. Blonde hair, or brunette. (Or another colour, yes.) Homosexual or heterosexual. He loves everyone because he made them. However, from there it is our choices that will further more get us into Heaven.. simply accepted God and Jesus Christ, like I said. That's my personal opinion on the matter, anyway, in a more simple way. about that choosing thing sometimes people make sub consciensous choices. Yes, I agree. Some people do choose, whether they realize it or not. But they aren't true homosexuals or bisexuals. Many "bi" and "gay" people lately are claiming they are that because it seems to be one of the latest trends. Some do because they have been abused by the opposite sex, and from that normally subconsciously think that their own sex won't hurt them like the opposite sex has. (Many times it happens more to female, simply because a lot of the time it seems to be the males abusing females.. I think? Unless I'm not hearing the correct information.) I just recently read The Color Purple and in it, Celie as a lesbian relationship with another female. Many people feel that she does seeing as she was abused by both her 'father' and her husband. Good example, even if it is a book. Quote: Yes I know about the abuse thing. However, many homosexuals don't choose to be gay. They simply are. No one is quite sure why, whether they were born like that for some reason, or what. Personally I do think that the true ones are born that way, and there were a few posts in the ED saying how scientifically, gay male brains are different or.. something of the sort, I'm not sure. Quote: A genetic defect or something. So technically, I guess I should edit what I said before by saying I think it is a combination of some people choosing to be that way, whether consciouslly or not, and some simply being that way because it is who they are. Quote: you make it sound like GOD created them that way at the end of your statment their, even if theyt were born that way, it's likely that it's a genetic defect brought on by sin.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:57 pm
NewFoundLight Kaiina NewFoundLight Kaiina I do think that homosexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals.. any kind of "sexual", basically, will get into Heaven. It doesn't matter what their orientation is, so long as they have accepted God. I don't think it is a choice to be gay. Who would choose that, when there is the risk of physical abuse, being disowned, heck.. even death? It just seems silly. Plus, I have some gay and lesbian friends who didn't choose to be the way they are. They just are. How I see it, is that God created everyone as he wanted them to be. Larger in size, or slimer. Blonde hair, or brunette. (Or another colour, yes.) Homosexual or heterosexual. He loves everyone because he made them. However, from there it is our choices that will further more get us into Heaven.. simply accepted God and Jesus Christ, like I said. That's my personal opinion on the matter, anyway, in a more simple way. about that choosing thing sometimes people make sub consciensous choices. Yes, I agree. Some people do choose, whether they realize it or not. But they aren't true homosexuals or bisexuals. Many "bi" and "gay" people lately are claiming they are that because it seems to be one of the latest trends. Some do because they have been abused by the opposite sex, and from that normally subconsciously think that their own sex won't hurt them like the opposite sex has. (Many times it happens more to female, simply because a lot of the time it seems to be the males abusing females.. I think? Unless I'm not hearing the correct information.) I just recently read The Color Purple and in it, Celie as a lesbian relationship with another female. Many people feel that she does seeing as she was abused by both her 'father' and her husband. Good example, even if it is a book. Quote: Yes I know about the abuse thing. However, many homosexuals don't choose to be gay. They simply are. No one is quite sure why, whether they were born like that for some reason, or what. Personally I do think that the true ones are born that way, and there were a few posts in the ED saying how scientifically, gay male brains are different or.. something of the sort, I'm not sure. Quote: A genetic defect or something. So technically, I guess I should edit what I said before by saying I think it is a combination of some people choosing to be that way, whether consciouslly or not, and some simply being that way because it is who they are. Quote: you make it sound like GOD created them that way at the end of your statment their, even if theyt were born that way, it's likely that it's a genetic defect brought on by sin. It could be a genetic defect, or something of the sort, and in fact it most likely is. But either way, it is a defect that they were born with. Most, anyway.. I explained the whole subconscious already. I know that I make it sound like God created them like that.. because frankly, that is what I believe. As I mentioned in my initial post, I said that I believe that God created everyone as he wanted them. What color hair they have, their body type, skin color, as well as their sexual orientation. He loves everyone the way they are: including homosexuals. Some people don't think that God does love them, but just like this is my opinion, that is theirs. Why, in my opinion, would he create someone only to hate them simply because of the gender that they fall in love with? It doesn't make sense to me. God created us partially so that we could love.. so why hate them for loving? As for the genetic defect brought on by sin.. hm. I don't get that because if you are going off of my thoughts of people being born with homosexuality and such, then how can it have been brought on by sin, when the child hasn't even lived yet? They couldn't have sinned if they haven't yet been born.
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