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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:26 pm
....I'd love for it to continue ya know.... but sometimes.... things are better left as they are than continuing....
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:21 pm
I really want for it to continue but think about how sad it would be if the sequel stunk! I think its better to quit a little earlier and have a good ending then to have a super long ending that doesn't work! Also I'm just happy Fakir and Ahiru wind up together and don't wind up dead! That would be so sad... crying I'm deppressed now... crying
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:21 am
And everyone knows I'm in Over my head Over my head With eight seconds left in overtime
▄ S h e ' s__o n УΘцг {MiND}. ▄ ♠ The ending for Princess Tutu wasn't happy as Ryoko-chan said, but instead content enough for a beautiful conclusion. :3 -nod nod- Ahiru and Fakir are living together, as we can assume, with Ahiru the duck and Fakir writing stories. And honestly, they've had enough conflict/problems in the past. They need a peaceful, happy life. n-n
Still, I admit it's difficult to let the series go. There's always doujinshi - though I can never find a copy to buy x0x - and there's a couple in the shoujo magazines every once in a blue moon. A short or perhaps a movie of sorts would be interesting and lovely. Of course, this will be highly unprobable as Ryoko-chan has just stated with the company's/artists' various reasons, so we all will just have to cope with watching the episodes over and over again. :3 -nod nod-
Though a movie would be lovely, in my opinion... >> ...And couldn't really ruin the series if its done properly. If you think about it, animation/storyline that takes longer to finalize and create ends up with a better clip/movie result. Thus, if Itoh-san really were to take her time and really develop a masterpiece, it could continue the series smoothly and make another Tutu piece to drool over.
...If the producers had the funds, that is. gonk
I'LL BUY A HUNDRED COPIES OF EVERY DVD, ITOH! I'LL DO IT! JUST FOR A TUTU CONTINUATION! TT O TT _________________________ And s u d d e n l y I become α PaRT of ○your○ PaST.__ I'm becoming the PaRT that don't last.} I'm losing you and its effortless.__
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:03 pm
I've also heard that they were considering a sequel. As of yet though I'm not quite sure on my opinion on if there should be a sequel. Until then I'll continue fantisizing on them being a couple.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:35 pm
Hmm.
'Tis interesting that no one has mentioned one of the most interesting points of the ending yet...
Hope.
Isn't that the story that Fakir was writing? He had decided to not write tradgedies and instead write hopeful stories. (One would assume to inspire people to greatness rather than wallowing in tradgedy.)
Had the series continued it would have lost the main point of that ending. It is easy to assume that Ahiru and Fakir would eventually get together, as both likely have the will and desire to do so. So the end of the series leaves us with hope for their future, with out hitting us over the head with "this is going to happen, idiots". I prefere it that way. It leaves much more to the imagination.
And for Ahiru and Fakir as a couple:
Again I am supprised that no one has made this reference. Many of the stories in Princess Tutu were based around classic fairy tales, right? And likely most drew from the Grimm Fairy Tales and other such stories. Not only are most of these tales slightly dark (i.e. grim) they also all hold responsibility in high regard.
So though Ahiru was orriginaly motivated by love (or it could be pity) for Mytho, it was more responsibility that kept her working through the second season. This figures in to how she wasn't the tragic heroin that Drosselmeyer wanted. She wasn't deeply motivated by the love she held for Mytho, instead she wanted him to be happy, though not nessisarily with her. Through the first season it is never stated that she loves him. (I think its stated in one episode that she really doesn't know her feelings about Mytho.) At most she has a childhood crush on him. She is his gaurdian angel, but that role is rather empty when it comes to mature feelings.
Ahirus relationship develops with Fakir slowly, as any relationship would in the 'real' world. By the end they know more about eachother than anyone else in their lives, and have found themselves to be remarkably similar. They treat eachother as close friends, so its not suprising that everyone hopes them to be more.
Frankly, both Fakir and Ahiru have way more depth than Mytho and Rue. It was they who inspired Mytho to save his princess and end his battle, but it was they who suffered for it. Mytho and Rue may go off and be happy at the end of the series, but in a sence they have 'accepted their fate'. Fakir and Ahiru will always fight against it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:19 pm
You make a good point about Ahiru, Sora ruki =3. I've tried to point that out to people before, but they either don't accept it or are convinced that she always liked Fakir...
x.< But yea. I like that you mentioned that Ahiru wasn't just, or maybe never was, motivated by love. Perhaps she thought it was love, but at least in the second season, she was driven more by duty near the end. Though love CAN be wanting the person you love to be happy, no matter what... I think Ahiru was just dazzled for awhile. She really didn't know the prince, especially as she grew to know Fakir at the end.
All in all, nicely thought out post 3nodding .
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:33 pm
Thank you Ryoko!
A friend and I just finished watching Tutu for the first time, so we sort-of analized it to death...
So I should probably note that some of those ideas were hers! xp
But I really did love the ending. It was just a bit bitter-sweat, and so perfect for the series.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:47 pm
xd My friend and I did the exact same thing after we first watched it a few years back! It's fun to analyze characters.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:48 pm
You certainly give good points Ryoko-chan, and I agree. The ending was very perfect for the series, and I am satisfied, to an extent...but at the same time, the fangirl in me wants Fakir and Ahiru to be together. While it is not "officially" established in the series, like Rue and Mytho's relationship, it can't be ignored either.
Granted, I became a Fakiru fan directly on episode 12, because Fakir blushed, but the relationship, in my opinion, was established when Fakir said he's remain with Ahiru, no matter what form she was in. I think it was that line alone that helped me to accept Ahiru's fate. As for a sequal, I would love one, but I suppose that is too much to ask for. It's been 4 years since the series ended, so chances are it won't be...
Oh well, I'll always have amvs and fanfiction to satisfy my fangirl ^^;;
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:02 pm
moezy-chan You certainly give good points Ryoko-chan, and I agree. The ending was very perfect for the series, and I am satisfied, to an extent...but at the same time, the fangirl in me wants Fakir and Ahiru to be together. While it is not "officially" established in the series, like Rue and Mytho's relationship, it can't be ignored either. Granted, I became a Fakiru fan directly on episode 12, because Fakir blushed, but the relationship, in my opinion, was established when Fakir said he's remain with Ahiru, no matter what form she was in. I think it was that line alone that helped me to accept Ahiru's fate. As for a sequal, I would love one, but I suppose that is too much to ask for. It's been 4 years since the series ended, so chances are it won't be... Oh well, I'll always have amvs and fanfiction to satisfy my fangirl ^^;; Ditto for me. Personally, I'm writing a sequel fanfiction in order to let go of the ending. Writing is basically all I do, anyway. sweatdrop Before I watched the series, I'd heard that the ending was "sad" (I didn't stumble across any spoilers, but people kept alluding to how much they hated the ending, which made me increasingly worried about Ahiru's fate towards the end). However, when I watched it, I wasn't sad. I was ecstatic. I thought that was the best ending possible for this kind of series. True, it's sad that Fakir and Ahiru weren't together at the end ( crying ) but when you really think about it, that ending is much better than some random, tacked-on thing where they end up together. It leaves it up to the viewer to decide what happens, and it very strongly hints (at least in my opinion anyway) that Fakir will write a story about her to bring her back. After all, the only stories that he writes that come true are the ones that he writes about her. wink Anyway, I do believe that there were plans for a third season (Chapter of the Egg, Chapter of the Chick... I'm betting that it would have been Chapter of the Swan next) but I think that there were other reasons besides lack of funding or interest. The show is called Princess Tutu after all; the entire plotline of the show revolved around resolving The Prince and the Raven for good. Once that was over, what else was there to do? The only characters left were Ahiru and Fakir; Mytho and Rue dissapeared to parts unknown, Drosselmeyer and Uzura-zura moved on to "another story," and all the random fairy-tale-ish animal people and stuff like that dissapeared from the town. Princess Tutu doesn't even exist anymore. As cute as a sequel involving Fakir and Ahiru would be, it would probably be incredibly short and dissapointing. Honestly, I would rather lament on how they never technically got together than be angry about a botched sequel.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:03 pm
3mi "Omg, I can't feel. Oh wait, now I can. Hey, Tutu's hot. Omg, I love her. Woah, did that dark haired chick just say she loves me? Omg, I love HER. Hey, the Raven ate her. I think I still love Tutu. Wait, Tutu is a poor, defenseless, and worthless duck. Back to loving Rue. Oh wait, Rue's still in the Raven's belly. Let's save her since I'm not into animals. Yay, we saved her. Now I'm gonna marry her and not seem grateful at all to Ahiru who gave up everything to save me and go off and marry Rue." That made my day. rofl
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:58 pm
fallingstartheauthoress moezy-chan You certainly give good points Ryoko-chan, and I agree. The ending was very perfect for the series, and I am satisfied, to an extent...but at the same time, the fangirl in me wants Fakir and Ahiru to be together. While it is not "officially" established in the series, like Rue and Mytho's relationship, it can't be ignored either. Granted, I became a Fakiru fan directly on episode 12, because Fakir blushed, but the relationship, in my opinion, was established when Fakir said he's remain with Ahiru, no matter what form she was in. I think it was that line alone that helped me to accept Ahiru's fate. As for a sequal, I would love one, but I suppose that is too much to ask for. It's been 4 years since the series ended, so chances are it won't be... Oh well, I'll always have amvs and fanfiction to satisfy my fangirl ^^;; Ditto for me. Personally, I'm writing a sequel fanfiction in order to let go of the ending. Writing is basically all I do, anyway. sweatdrop Before I watched the series, I'd heard that the ending was "sad" (I didn't stumble across any spoilers, but people kept alluding to how much they hated the ending, which made me increasingly worried about Ahiru's fate towards the end). However, when I watched it, I wasn't sad. I was ecstatic. I thought that was the best ending possible for this kind of series. True, it's sad that Fakir and Ahiru weren't together at the end ( crying ) but when you really think about it, that ending is much better than some random, tacked-on thing where they end up together. It leaves it up to the viewer to decide what happens, and it very strongly hints (at least in my opinion anyway) that Fakir will write a story about her to bring her back. After all, the only stories that he writes that come true are the ones that he writes about her. wink Anyway, I do believe that there were plans for a third season (Chapter of the Egg, Chapter of the Chick... I'm betting that it would have been Chapter of the Swan next) but I think that there were other reasons besides lack of funding or interest. The show is called Princess Tutu after all; the entire plotline of the show revolved around resolving The Prince and the Raven for good. Once that was over, what else was there to do? The only characters left were Ahiru and Fakir; Mytho and Rue dissapeared to parts unknown, Drosselmeyer and Uzura-zura moved on to "another story," and all the random fairy-tale-ish animal people and stuff like that dissapeared from the town. Princess Tutu doesn't even exist anymore. As cute as a sequel involving Fakir and Ahiru would be, it would probably be incredibly short and dissapointing. Honestly, I would rather lament on how they never technically got together than be angry about a botched sequel. You raise very good points, and agreed. It was called Princess Tutu for a reason, so yeah, Tutu can't exist anymore. And if anything, I wasn't upset about it that much either. I had wished that she would remain a girl, but in doing so, I forgot what the series was truly about. Still, it does leave a lot to hope for with that ending~ And if anything, I HATE sequels, cause they never have the same feeling that the original had. I'm perfectly content to read fanfics~ as long as it remains true to the series.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:05 pm
moezy-chan fallingstartheauthoress moezy-chan You certainly give good points Ryoko-chan, and I agree. The ending was very perfect for the series, and I am satisfied, to an extent...but at the same time, the fangirl in me wants Fakir and Ahiru to be together. While it is not "officially" established in the series, like Rue and Mytho's relationship, it can't be ignored either. Granted, I became a Fakiru fan directly on episode 12, because Fakir blushed, but the relationship, in my opinion, was established when Fakir said he's remain with Ahiru, no matter what form she was in. I think it was that line alone that helped me to accept Ahiru's fate. As for a sequal, I would love one, but I suppose that is too much to ask for. It's been 4 years since the series ended, so chances are it won't be... Oh well, I'll always have amvs and fanfiction to satisfy my fangirl ^^;; Ditto for me. Personally, I'm writing a sequel fanfiction in order to let go of the ending. Writing is basically all I do, anyway. sweatdrop Before I watched the series, I'd heard that the ending was "sad" (I didn't stumble across any spoilers, but people kept alluding to how much they hated the ending, which made me increasingly worried about Ahiru's fate towards the end). However, when I watched it, I wasn't sad. I was ecstatic. I thought that was the best ending possible for this kind of series. True, it's sad that Fakir and Ahiru weren't together at the end ( crying ) but when you really think about it, that ending is much better than some random, tacked-on thing where they end up together. It leaves it up to the viewer to decide what happens, and it very strongly hints (at least in my opinion anyway) that Fakir will write a story about her to bring her back. After all, the only stories that he writes that come true are the ones that he writes about her. wink Anyway, I do believe that there were plans for a third season (Chapter of the Egg, Chapter of the Chick... I'm betting that it would have been Chapter of the Swan next) but I think that there were other reasons besides lack of funding or interest. The show is called Princess Tutu after all; the entire plotline of the show revolved around resolving The Prince and the Raven for good. Once that was over, what else was there to do? The only characters left were Ahiru and Fakir; Mytho and Rue dissapeared to parts unknown, Drosselmeyer and Uzura-zura moved on to "another story," and all the random fairy-tale-ish animal people and stuff like that dissapeared from the town. Princess Tutu doesn't even exist anymore. As cute as a sequel involving Fakir and Ahiru would be, it would probably be incredibly short and dissapointing. Honestly, I would rather lament on how they never technically got together than be angry about a botched sequel. You raise very good points, and agreed. It was called Princess Tutu for a reason, so yeah, Tutu can't exist anymore. And if anything, I wasn't upset about it that much either. I had wished that she would remain a girl, but in doing so, I forgot what the series was truly about. Still, it does leave a lot to hope for with that ending~ And if anything, I HATE sequels, cause they never have the same feeling that the original had. I'm perfectly content to read fanfics~ as long as it remains true to the series. Agreed. I hate it when fanfictions deviate from the series. OOC and all that. >_<
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:05 pm
Yeah. If they were to bring it back they should only bring it back from a few episode. About five. Just a side story kind of thing so the feeling isn't ruined. I wouldn't want a full sequel series though. I think it's good as is.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:13 pm
Honestly, I would mind an epilogue episode. (ei: One year/month later) But just one.
Remember the final frame of Princess Tutu? The drawing of Ahiru in a white tutu with a garland and veil above her head? And she had wings?
She was making the "I love you" mime. Good enough for me. Although seeing it made me cry.
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