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 Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:47 pm
Evil Kween Khandnalie does Chuck Norris count? me personally, i revere about 5 or 6 real people as gods- George RR Martin Benjamin Franklin Chiyo Chan Mihama Carlos Mencia Hideaki Anno Hayao Miyazaki Tamora Pierce& 1 or 2 others i can't remember. i revere them as gods, because i owe to them my existance as me- i wouldn't be who i am without their influences on my life. i'd also include the bands Rammstein, Dimmu Borgir, & Children of Bodom.... possibly Old Mans Child.... that probably just makes me a stupid groupie, or something like that. ah well... She's a great author! smile One of my favorites... But that is a good point... does honoring other people as the creative forces that shaped you fall outside of LaVeyan ideology, or is that being realistic? Hmmm... I think it is still within LaVeyan Satanism. They are still mortal people. And honestly, if they did that much, enough to earn a influence to your life and in other's lives, then they must be good people in your eyes, and most likely, in others. Then again, you are a filter to how you take in experiences. So what they did, has a message, that you interpret. And if we go by this definition of revering others as gods to you, then I have quite a couple people that are in or were a part of my life, and are leaving, or left a substantial influence on me.
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:57 am
Evil Kween Khandnalie does Chuck Norris count? me personally, i revere about 5 or 6 real people as gods- George RR Martin Benjamin Franklin Chiyo Chan Mihama Carlos Mencia Hideaki Anno Hayao Miyazaki Tamora Pierce& 1 or 2 others i can't remember. i revere them as gods, because i owe to them my existance as me- i wouldn't be who i am without their influences on my life. i'd also include the bands Rammstein, Dimmu Borgir, & Children of Bodom.... possibly Old Mans Child.... that probably just makes me a stupid groupie, or something like that. ah well... She's a great author! smile One of my favorites... But that is a good point... does honoring other people as the creative forces that shaped you fall outside of LaVeyan ideology, or is that being realistic? It's fine as long as you don't put them and their wishes before yourself and you realize that it's them as people you revere, not supernatural aspects of them. You're honoring the person itself instead of personifying an aspect of them and separating them. And the way I figure it, honor and worship are two vastly different things. LaVeyan Satanists worship no one over themselves, but you can still acknowledge the skills of other individuals and how said skills shaped you as a person.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:41 am
ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.).
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:05 am
devilsace ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.). It really depends on the individual as far as supernatural forces are concernd, but no, we don't believe in demons or anything of the sort. You likely were not attacked, and were more likely being paranoid, or are lying. Whichever.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:41 pm
PirateEire devilsace ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.). It really depends on the individual as far as supernatural forces are concernd, but no, we don't believe in demons or anything of the sort. You likely were not attacked, and were more likely being paranoid, or are lying. Whichever. That, or he was tripping or is Schizophrenic...
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:24 pm
The Great Retardo PirateEire devilsace ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.). It really depends on the individual as far as supernatural forces are concernd, but no, we don't believe in demons or anything of the sort. You likely were not attacked, and were more likely being paranoid, or are lying. Whichever. That, or he was tripping or is Schizophrenic... i wasn't paranoid nor am lying or was tripping or schizophrenic. i was 3 when it happened and i can remember it well because it was freaky and it was right after my dads death. the thing looked like a cat and it had grabbed and pulled me into the hall way. i had kicked it and at that time ihad believed that the light would scare it off so i switched on the light switch it and ran away.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:12 am
devilsace The Great Retardo PirateEire devilsace ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.). It really depends on the individual as far as supernatural forces are concernd, but no, we don't believe in demons or anything of the sort. You likely were not attacked, and were more likely being paranoid, or are lying. Whichever. That, or he was tripping or is Schizophrenic... i wasn't paranoid nor am lying or was tripping or schizophrenic. i was 3 when it happened and i can remember it well because it was freaky and it was right after my dads death. the thing looked like a cat and it had grabbed and pulled me into the hall way. i had kicked it and at that time ihad believed that the light would scare it off so i switched on the light switch it and ran away. That is not at all consistent with Satanic belief. If you were three, I highly doubt that your logic and perception were entirely up to par. When I was four, hell, I thought that there was a mud troll that lived in a pit underneath the ground under my bed, and one night, I could have sworn that little miniature mud trolls came up and tried to kill me. Don't invest too much faith in the reality of what you imagine as a child.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:32 pm
PirateEire devilsace The Great Retardo PirateEire devilsace ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.). It really depends on the individual as far as supernatural forces are concernd, but no, we don't believe in demons or anything of the sort. You likely were not attacked, and were more likely being paranoid, or are lying. Whichever. That, or he was tripping or is Schizophrenic... i wasn't paranoid nor am lying or was tripping or schizophrenic. i was 3 when it happened and i can remember it well because it was freaky and it was right after my dads death. the thing looked like a cat and it had grabbed and pulled me into the hall way. i had kicked it and at that time ihad believed that the light would scare it off so i switched on the light switch it and ran away. That is not at all consistent with Satanic belief. If you were three, I highly doubt that your logic and perception were entirely up to par. When I was four, hell, I thought that there was a mud troll that lived in a pit underneath the ground under my bed, and one night, I could have sworn that little miniature mud trolls came up and tried to kill me. Don't invest too much faith in the reality of what you imagine as a child. but it's not the only time i've delt with it (when i got older i dealt with it.). i've been thinking of it as science. i think that the use of our belief's creates such thing and if humans don't believe inanything out of what we see there would be no such things. other words we create and feed such things. which gose with some of the idea's of what is in the satanic bible about useing the rituals to do sertain things. like the when your enemy gose to sleep and then you do the ritual to harm them. i just see things like the thing (that i define as demon to give it a definition) as a mistake made by someone because of there belief's.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:27 pm
So, basically, you're saying the tree that falls in the forest makes no sound because nobody heard it?
Also; do try to spell a little bit better (get Firefox 2.0+, it has a built-in spell-checker) and punctuate a bit more.
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:10 pm
[Subject to Psychosis] So, basically, you're saying the tree that falls in the forest makes no sound because nobody heard it? Also; do try to spell a little bit better (get Firefox 2.0+, it has a built-in spell-checker) and punctuate a bit more. in a way yes.
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:36 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:12 pm
devilsace The Great Retardo PirateEire devilsace ok i have a question. do lavey satnist belief in or think that there could be any supernatural. the only reason i ask this is because i was attacked by something a couple of times(i give it the definition demon just to give it a definition.). It really depends on the individual as far as supernatural forces are concernd, but no, we don't believe in demons or anything of the sort. You likely were not attacked, and were more likely being paranoid, or are lying. Whichever. That, or he was tripping or is Schizophrenic... i wasn't paranoid nor am lying or was tripping or schizophrenic. i was 3 when it happened and i can remember it well because it was freaky and it was right after my dads death. the thing looked like a cat and it had grabbed and pulled me into the hall way. i had kicked it and at that time ihad believed that the light would scare it off so i switched on the light switch it and ran away. oh, well...I don't know how you will take this, but sometimes when people are in great stress and experiencing a very hard time in their life they may have a sudden lapse of reality. It also could have been a dream. Often when we are young dreams are very realistic. Had I not known the difference when I was little then today I would be saying that a tall white creepy witch like creature chased me down the halls as I tried to desperately crawl to my parents. Any of these things are possible, often in stressful situations things like schizophrenia can come out and then be quiet for a while you know. either way, weather your story is true, false or a testimony to your insanity I am terribly sorry about the loss of your father.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:49 am
Well said, Re'. I think it is safe to say that LaVey never ever supported the existence of demons nor mythological ethereal beings, and he certainly had something to say against "spiritual pipe dreams."
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:20 pm
If it helps with the discussion, I was atheist until my grandmother died. Then I went Satanist.
God has never protected me. Why should I be on his side?
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:45 pm
Post 1970s, Satanists were exclusively apatheist, agnostic, or atheist.
While some consider it "possible" for a deist to still be a Satanist, this is considered foolish by most of the priesthood, given the evidence we obtain.
An odd quagmire is reached with the fact that there have been (the Priesthood refuses to state whether there still are), Satanists -- Church of Satan members and officials -- within the Freemasons.
Whether they are lying to their Freemason comrades, or are deists, or have a looser definition of agnosticism/apatheism is up to interpretation. (A Satanist I know whom is not yet a member of the Church of Satan, but is infact a Freemason, states that when required to believe in a "God", he says yes -- he believes in himself (as cliche as that might sound). When required to believe in a "creator", he states himself, as he 'creates' the world around him.)
What separates the atypical (secular humanist) atheist and the Satanist -- not counting the vast philosophical differences -- however, is that the true Satanist would keep on living the way he does even with undeniable proof that God, as He is portrayed, is a reality.
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