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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:58 am
Actually I learned a few and it was fun. 3nodding
Ok anyways I finshed Kana, but I am still working on my reading. But I think I'm ready for Kanji. But I'm not sure what books to get. The Kana Tuttle flash cards worked great for me.. So I am planning on getting the Kanji flash cards. but as far as books go.. I'm not sure where to go.. What do you think I should get?
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:10 pm
Personally, I don't think you should buy the flash cards for kanji. Those sort of things can get expensive and you're better off buying a beginner's book and learning the kanji included in it so you can learn the vocab for it properly as well. Kanji is the sort of thing that you have to really practise by writing them over and over to learn them because recognising them doesn't necessarily equate to being able to write them, well at least later on.
Generally, it's good to follow what books universities use if you have no idea yourself. I have a disdain for the tuttle brand though. Try and stay off those brand of books as best you can as they tend to produce many trashy books. Generally, don't buy any books with audio cassettes claiming to teach conversational Japanese. It's a waste because they usually don't include books with much information or many exercises, and they can cost a fair bit.
"Genki" books are generally good to use. "Japanese for busy people" is also good but it has more business-y vocab. If you do choose to buy the genki book, there are cd's available and workbooks. So it might be a good idea.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:25 pm
Honestly, use any book you can get. The more you use the better your Japanese will be.
I personally use Tuttle a lot and many people don't like it, but I think it's good. I use tuttle kanji cards and I use it to learn to write and read kanji. The cards by Alexander Klask have more of the kanji's actually readings then other books do.
I suggest you get books about Japanese straight from Japan though. You can't beat that.
I suggest you get what you can. Sure the cards have a few flaws, but you have to work through them and figure out the flaws.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:26 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:14 pm
Ok I know you said kanji handbook.. but I can't read the first part(I think I see "japanese" in there tho.)
Where can I get these kanji books?
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:38 pm
I have this japanese reader that is great if you're willing to use it regularly. it's by Roy Andrew Miller, called "A japanese Reader: graded lessons for mastering the written language" its by tuttle, so it's really helpful. but like I said, you have to be willing to use it regularly for anything to stick.
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:17 pm
Personally, I'm finding "Remembering the Kanji Volume 1" by James W. Heisig a really good book for learning the meanings and how to write each kanji (without learning how to read). However, if you follow the recommended method in the books, you're meant to learn the meaning and writing for all the kanji included before you learn how to read them, which puts you a bit behind people who are learning the readings and writings at once (they can put them to use right away, whereas you can't). But despite what Heisig says, I don't think you completely sabotage yourself by learning how to read some kanji even while you're still going through the first volume. When it came to learning kanji in class, actually, I found a lot of what I had learned in "Remembering the Kanji" to be quite helpful. I've heard that the second volume of the "Remembering the Kanji" series (which is for reading) isn't necessarily revolutionary or better than other kanji books (it just groups the kanji by readings, not giving you all the readings for one kanji at once). The main point Heisig has, it seems, is to remember readings by example vocabulary, which other books suggest as well. I've heard that "Kanji in Context" is pretty good for reading. Anyway, I do highly recommend "Remembering the Kanji." It really is quite effective in helping you remember. (It makes use of your imagination rather than rote memorization). Here's a sample (includes the first 275 kanji in the book. i.e., the ones for which he provides a story with which to learn them) Remembering the Kanji sample
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:57 am
ITEMhunter Ok I know you said kanji handbook.. but I can't read the first part(I think I see "japanese" in there tho.)
Where can I get these kanji books? 日本語能力試験漢字ハンドブック にほんごのうりょくしけんかんじハンドブック Japanese Language Proficiency Test Kanji HandbookGreat book!
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:03 pm
Is it bad that it took me longer to read the katakana? I really need to practice my katakana reading speed, lol.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:19 pm
Mikagi-sama ITEMhunter Ok I know you said kanji handbook.. but I can't read the first part(I think I see "japanese" in there tho.)
Where can I get these kanji books? 日本語能力試験漢字ハンドブック にほんごのうりょくしけんかんじハンドブック Japanese Language Proficiency Test Kanji HandbookGreat book! Is this a good book for a beginner?? sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:06 am
ITEMhunter Mikagi-sama ITEMhunter Ok I know you said kanji handbook.. but I can't read the first part(I think I see "japanese" in there tho.)
Where can I get these kanji books? 日本語能力試験漢字ハンドブック にほんごのうりょくしけんかんじハンドブック Japanese Language Proficiency Test Kanji HandbookGreat book! Is this a good book for a beginner?? sweatdrop Well... as long as you now hiragana and katakana. You can learn the kanji and meanings. It doesn't have stroke order for each one, but they have a section in the back showing a bunch of kanji's strokes. Basically you can look up kanji by reading and it gives you all the kanji, the JLPT level, english, mandarin, cantonese, and korean meaning, and a list of words or sentences that use it. But you can learn how to read the kanji from it. So yeah! biggrin
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:29 am
The book I use is called A Guide to Reading and Writing Japanese. It's a bit of a mistitling really, since there's not much in the way of guiding, or reading either for that matter. But it is good for learning to write kanji (and kana). The main reason I like it is that as well as having the stroke order for the first 880-odd of them, the kanji are all printed in simple handwriting style, as if they were written with a pen, instead of in a computer font or calligraphy style. Since people most often write with a pen (rather than a brush), I think this is much more useful if you want to learn to write in kanji. It also has example compound words for each kanji, along with readings and meanings. It uses romaji rather than kana for readings and pronunciation of words, which is useful for ultra-beginners although it doesn't give you any reading practice.
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:17 pm
I'm learning kanji too, I have a hard time sticking to my own study plan. D=
My mom is going to buy some kanji flash cards for me when we go to Japan. We're getting White Rabbit Press kanji cards. I also have this (slightly outdated) book with a list of 2000 kanji seperated into 10 levels. I'm going through it slowly.
I don't think I'll really be able to learn kanji well unless I have some reading material, and write a bit too.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:53 am
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:22 pm
-okonomiyaki o konomu- Personally, I'm finding "Remembering the Kanji Volume 1" by James W. Heisig a really good book for learning the meanings and how to write each kanji (without learning how to read). However, if you follow the recommended method in the books, you're meant to learn the meaning and writing for all the kanji included before you learn how to read them, which puts you a bit behind people who are learning the readings and writings at once (they can put them to use right away, whereas you can't). But despite what Heisig says, I don't think you completely sabotage yourself by learning how to read some kanji even while you're still going through the first volume. When it came to learning kanji in class, actually, I found a lot of what I had learned in "Remembering the Kanji" to be quite helpful. I've heard that the second volume of the "Remembering the Kanji" series (which is for reading) isn't necessarily revolutionary or better than other kanji books (it just groups the kanji by readings, not giving you all the readings for one kanji at once). The main point Heisig has, it seems, is to remember readings by example vocabulary, which other books suggest as well. I've heard that "Kanji in Context" is pretty good for reading. Anyway, I do highly recommend "Remembering the Kanji." It really is quite effective in helping you remember. (It makes use of your imagination rather than rote memorization). Here's a sample (includes the first 275 kanji in the book. i.e., the ones for which he provides a story with which to learn them) Remembering the Kanji sampleYes! I highly recommend these books as well. It might be hard to get your hands on two might be hard to get your hands on two of the volumes though if you want to learn more of the kanji that Japanese learn in college. xp
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