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Yeah. I'm not as nitpicky about NPC boundaries, but Ellen seems to be an important part of this storyline, unlike my permission for Mrs. Costa with Lyra, considering that Maria's mom had nothing to do with the plot in general.

And, complete agreement wth Mayday about godmodding aside, I must say: You didn't really portray Ellen correctly, even for having a gun pointed at her.

Having roleplayed with Mayday using Ellen as part of the scene, I'd see her keeping a calmer head and being much more snarky with her answers.

However, having read the post in question, I also see that you shouldn't have done that...

Just my own two cents. Not trying to add insult to injury, just my own insights...

Sorry, Clean, I'm with Mayday on this one 100%.

By the way, I can see that this is a good idea for a thread.

I can see the name 'Gatta" appearing here a couple times, lol. This is one of my first forays into roleplaying in a loooong time... and my first in a guild-based one...

Be that as it may... this is sort of ridiculous... and by the way... Drew was about to shoot Ellen... if you watch most TV shows... even the calmest people lose their cool sometimes when something THAT happens. It is not like she begged for mercy. She just told Drew who the nams of her and Louis were.

So... I am sorry if this causes controversy... this is sort of stupid though... and Mayday... you could've just PMed me about this... like you already did... you didn't have to make a public case about it.

Official word from the crew:

I don't honestly know what you guys are talking about, what thread it is in, or even that Mayday had an NPC named Ellen. Needless to say I did not read the post, and do not know the extent of Clean's infringement on your character rights. Sorry, I feel like I neglect my duties some, but as far as this summer goes, I'm practically first placing in crewing.

However, I have read this thread and here I agree with clean. Friendly reminders, per definition, are usually not public affairs, it's usually when you pull someone aside and say something along the lines of "hey man, you can't use that word, Kevin's friend Allan is actually mentally handicapped, and he's starting to get pissed."

As for any other friendly reminder, the only kind I can think that don't work perfectly well in PM form are Nudges. And now that I think about it I don't really care for that thread either (I really do think that Ludo's constantly waiting for me), unfortunately it was created with just as much authority as I have.

To be fair, I will give you a week to argue your point, after which point, upon being convinced or not, this thread will either be deleted or kept. Anyone can argue, and don't worry about disagreeing with a crew member, I will respect you more for it. Unless of course your way of disagreeing with me is "yeah, tottally what mayday said, he's so hott." Then I might lose some respect, just because you seplt totally wrong.

We already tried the PM thing...actually we're still in the middle of it. "Blah blah blah, stuff that doesn't matter to what MU wants us to argue here." Sorry mayday, but we are arguing whether or not this thread should exist.
-MU

But mostly, yeah, tottally what mayday said, he's so hott.

Clean, I'm deleting your post, because it is not relevant to the point, and is very close to trolling. See post below.
-MU

Well MU, the point of this thread can be argued, but it was very much made to argue Ellen. AND there's the fact that the title of this thread was to spark an argument about this matter. I need to see who agrees with my views on NPCs compared to Clean's views. I needed input from everyone, especially the crew. I just figured when we've reached the end of that argument, any other reminders can be issued here as well. So yes, I am disagreeing with you. Clean and I were arguing about something other than this thread's overall purpose. You just created a new one, which, while I'm not trying to cancel out your action, I do disagree with deleting our own argument.

And I know that, at least on my part, character-created NPCs are a large part of my personal story. You can't try to tell me I don't role-play in the overall plot either. We all know that's about as far from the truth as it gets. Banning character generated NPCs will cause more problems. It's not like I'm out creating a new league, going completely off of LoSI's track. I'm just developing my own character for LoSI. While you guys are going through those times where the overall story comes to a halt, people with personal stories, like Gatta, Clean, Always In Love, and myself only wish to keep ourselves busy and give others something to read. All in all, it helps you. Let's face it. LoSI could have died without us.

If you do decide to go through with that, it will make you look self-centered around your own plot. There are times when we all wait around for something plot-oriented. Are you trying to tell us not to post when nothing is happening? Or are you telling us to run around like idiots and make pointless conversation with one another? There were no set terms on this in the begginning. Making them now isn't worth it. If you do, it would only be fair to grandfather us in.

It would not be my place to ban NPCs mayday, so do not worry yourself.

However, I do not appreciate creating arguments amongst the members. I agree that without the four of you LoSI would be dead this summer, but that is exactly why I do not want the four of you arguing with each other, because if you guys get as heated as I just deleted you from being, LoSI will die anyways.
Nobody appreciates being called out in front of everyone else. It puts them on the defensive, and they get desperate. That's when people are the most dangerous, that's an opportunity that I do not wish for anyone to have.

If you wanted an overhaul of NPC-based-rules, you can make a thread for it, it'd be much more effective to be straightforward.