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 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:33 pm
Who all are the Peverells related to? What families are truly in the Pureblood Isolationist Faction?
The Gaunts claim decent from Slytherin and The Peverells.
Harry now claims decent from The Peverells.
Where do the Blacks, Malfoys, Rosiers and Lestranges fit in?
Give me your theories.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:11 am
My theory? They're all inbred.
Oh wait! They really are! Ha, silly me...
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:48 am
Fact 1 of the List of Facts:
They are in fact inbred.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:40 pm
And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|Harry actually isn't the Heir of Gryffindor - JKR said so. The question I want answered, though, is whether the original Peverell brothers pre-date the Founders or whether they came afterwards.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:37 am
JKR answered that Harry might be related to Gryffinor...I'll try to find a transcript of the interview.
Now I haven't thought about that...did the Peverell brothers pre-date the Founders? Interesting point...
I'm going to lean with the Peverell's are post-Founders. I'm thinking that Godric's Hallow was already named before Ignotus Peverell lived there...
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:13 am
Hmm... that's a good point, Shadow. You know, I think that they are after the founder's as well. When you think about the lineage between the Prewetts and the Gaunts and whatnot, they aren't really THAT old. Doesn't it say [intsert the name of the Preverell brother with the ring] gave his son the ring, and then Mr. Gaunt had the ring?
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:24 pm
I think that the Peverell's are still older then then that. I'd have to say the three brothers are about a handful of generations younger then the founders. And the Gaunts got the ring through a heiress of the Peverell's because the male bloodlines died out.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:06 pm
So, the Preverells aren't related whatsoever to the Gaunts?
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:54 am
They are...a female descendant of the middle Peverell brother married into the Gaunt family. Then a descendant of the last brother married into to Potter family so Harry and Tom Riddle are distant cousins...
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:02 am
Makes you wonder... what happened to the third brother. The brother with the stone passed it on and the brother with the cloak passed it on. Didn't the brother with the Elder Wand die in battle or something of the like?
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:26 am
He was killed in his sleep. Kinda pathetic.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:06 am
Oh. Well, that's not as exciting as I thought it would be. I mean, he's got the most powerful wand in the wizarding universe and he dies in his sleep? *sigh* Anyway, I pictured Godric Gryffindor and all the founders to take place... around the medieval era. I think the Preverells are sometime after that, and then the Gaunts farther still. The founders definitely came first.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:32 am
I once read a theory online that really made me think. The use of Celestial names isn't used very often in the wizarding world. Known users are the Gaunts (Merope) and the Blacks (and the Malfoys, Draco and Scorpius, but they're descended from Blacks). This makes me think that they're related distantly. I believe that they have Cadmus Peverell as a common ancestor. (Remember, JK said a lot of wizarding families are descended from the Peverells).
Going back to our Fact 1: They are in fact inbred.
It's a bit of a stretch, I know, but it kinda works. Rabastan could be read as a different form of Rastaban the star. So with that said, the Lestranges could be an offshoot of the Blacks and then Bellatrix and Rodolphus are another example of cousins (distant but still cousins) marrying each other.
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:13 am
"[For] centuries [this ring has] been in [the Gaunt] family, that’s how far back we go, and pure-blood all the way! Know how much I’ve been offered for this, with the Peverell coat of arms engraved on the stone? […And this locket was] Salazar Slytherin’s! We’re his last living descendants…Generations of purebloods all…" -Marvolo Gaunt
"My daughter, [Merope Gaunt,]—pure-blooded descendant of Salazar Slytherin—hankering after a filthy, dirty veined Muggle?" -Marvolo Gaunt
"I had to pay an arm and a leg for [Slytherin’s Locket], but I couldn’t let it pass, not a real treasure like that, had to have it for my collection. Burke bought it, apparently from a ragged-looking woman who seemed to have stolen it, but had no idea of its true value—I daresay Burke paid her a pittance but there you are…all kinds of powers attributed to it…" -Hepzibah Smith
"I, [Tom Marvolo Riddle,] in whose veins runs the blood of Salazar Slytherin himself, through my mother’s side? I, keep the name of a foul, common Muggle, who abandoned me even before I was born, just because he found out his wife was a witch?" -Tom Marvolo Riddle
"[Marvolo Gaunt was Tom Marvolo Riddle’s] grandfather, yes…Marvolo, his son, Morfin, and his daughter, Merope, were the last of the Gaunts, a very ancient Wizarding family noted for a vein of instability and violence that flourished though the generations due to their habit of marrying their own cousins. Lack of sense coupled with a great liking for grandeur meant that the family gold was squandered several generations before Marvolo was born…" -Albus Dumbledore
"The only place I’ve managed to find the name ‘Peverell’ is in Nature’s Nobility: A Wizarding Genealogy…It lists the pure-blood families that are now extinct in the male line. Apparently the Peverells were one of the earliest families to vanish. [Extinct in the male line] means the name’s died out…centuries ago, in the case of the Peverells. They could still have descendants, though, they’d just be called something different…" -Hermione Granger
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:14 pm
And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|Well, we know that all of the pureblood families are related to an extent. The impression I got was that the Malfoys and the Lestranges (and probably the Potters) are nouveau riche but that they had enough money that some of the older families would want to marry into them. That doesn't mean they weren't already related to the Blacks/Peverells etc., just that they were less respected offshoots of very prestigious families.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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