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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:48 pm
MMKAY. So I know we've all run screaming from fandoms under attack by n00bs. The presence of stupid people is nothing new. We've all been there. And it's a scary, scary place. But there are other scary types in fandoms. Like elitists. The type who are fandom Nazis. The type who make us all quake in fear. The type who make us feel inferior before we've said a word. Our arguments fall short before them, our fanworks seem inadequate. They are the closest thing to the creator of the fandom- or at least that's what they want us to think. These very types almost kept me out of a fandom completely. sad
So Freefall, has this ever happened to you? sad
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:00 pm
Yes.
*looks slowly at HOLiC Doumeki/Watanuki fandom and backs away slowly*
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:42 pm
Yes.
WAY more often than I'd like.
What's worse are sporkers -- people who hunt down fanfics/fanart that even has a hint of a Mary Sue [among other things] and maliciously attack it, without even giving the author any good advice on how to improve. One friend of mine is a sporker, however, she only sporks those that have laughably bad fiction...but most others? The art can be as awesome as can be, or story incredibly well written, but if they don't like it? Prepare to feek like s@!t.
They're basically flamers, but just with a different name.
But yes. Elitists suck. Especially sub elitists, who bash all dubs without even giving them a chance. There's a difference between preference and all out bashing, you know.
One thing I noice is while n00bs CAN be annoying...they're WAY nicer than ANY elitist could ever be.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:34 pm
.....Oh god....Elitists. 30x worse than any n00b. gonk
I've never been attacked by one but I've seen quite a few in the AMC. gonk
*shudders*
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:36 pm
I've never been attacked by an elitist, but I've seen them in fandoms, and so I'm less likely to take part in discussion concerning that fandom.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:31 pm
Oooh geez. I hate elitists! scream
PEPA eats elitists for breakfast. But they raise her blood pressure to high levels. Boo hoo. ;3;
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:08 am
 [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]I've got along with a few elitists. But for some reason they make me feel like a noob. sweatdrop
So if we're not elitists or n00bs then what are we? gonk [{ }]
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:47 am
Rekki Elric  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]I've got along with a few elitists. But for some reason they make me feel like a noob. sweatdrop
So if we're not elitists or n00bs then what are we? gonk [{ }] Winnars. heart
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Pao Pao Tang Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:41 pm
Winnars we are.
I remember when people reffered to someone as "elite", that meant they had superior grammar/writting skills ;.; OH, HOW FAR HAVE WE FALLEN?
Although I think its really stupid to post a Fanfic with a Mary Sue in it (no offense to those of you that do...Wait, o-o why would you post something with a sue in it?). I must admit, it hits somewhar in me hard when I read some weird EdxObviously marry Sue fic. I usually stop on the first sentence.
Fanart seems better Mary-sue wise for me, though o-o I don't know, its like... You only waste a split second of your life looking at a picture rather than a fic.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:47 pm
Insizzors Winnars we are.
I remember when people reffered to someone as "elite", that meant they had superior grammar/writting skills ;.; OH, HOW FAR HAVE WE FALLEN?
Although I think its really stupid to post a Fanfic with a Mary Sue in it (no offense to those of you that do...Wait, o-o why would you post something with a sue in it?). I must admit, it hits somewhar in me hard when I read some weird EdxObviously marry Sue fic. I usually stop on the first sentence.
Fanart seems better Mary-sue wise for me, though o-o I don't know, its like... You only waste a split second of your life looking at a picture rather than a fic.
Not all OCs are mary-sues. Mary-sue fanfics make me want to weep tears of blood, but there are some writers who can write OCs into a story and make them feel like they belong there. As far as pairings go, some I can understand, and I even have a few canon/OC pairings that I've written (inside my head. Should put them on paper~~~) It's rare that it's done well, but that doesn't mean it can't be. =/
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:18 am
[ .beautifully tragic. ] Rekki Elric  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]I've got along with a few elitists. But for some reason they make me feel like a noob. sweatdrop
So if we're not elitists or n00bs then what are we? gonk [{ }] Winnars. heart  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]Freefall "You won't find any n00bs or elists. Just winners."
That would make one sweet banner.
Honestly I haven't read any Mary-Sue fanfics. I am guilty of making Mary-Sue fanart. emo [{ }]
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:16 am
Rekki Elric [ .beautifully tragic. ] Rekki Elric  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]I've got along with a few elitists. But for some reason they make me feel like a noob. sweatdrop
So if we're not elitists or n00bs then what are we? gonk [{ }] Winnars. heart  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]Freefall "You won't find any n00bs or elists. Just winners."
That would make one sweet banner.
Honestly I haven't read any Mary-Sue fanfics. I am guilty of making Mary-Sue fanart. emo [{ }] No. Nonono, my love. Winnars. With an 'A.' =D
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:02 am
[ .beautifully tragic. ] Rekki Elric [ .beautifully tragic. ] Rekki Elric  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]I've got along with a few elitists. But for some reason they make me feel like a noob. sweatdrop
So if we're not elitists or n00bs then what are we? gonk [{ }] Winnars. heart  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]Freefall "You won't find any n00bs or elists. Just winners."
That would make one sweet banner.
Honestly I haven't read any Mary-Sue fanfics. I am guilty of making Mary-Sue fanart. emo [{ }] No. Nonono, my love. Winnars. With an 'A.' =D  [{Kiss me goodbye and sleep}]My bad.
Freefall "You won't find any n00bs or elists. Just winnars." [{ }]
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:11 pm
 Woe to the man who is different who tries to break down all the barriers WE ARE THE WINNARS, MY FRIENDZ AND WE'LL KEEP ON WINNANG 'TIL THE END.
But yeah, I hate the eltist attitude, also. D: But what's worse is the "elitist n00b": the n00b who acts like an elitist just so they look cool. They're the ones that go, "OMG YOU DON'T LIKE NARUTO YOU SUCK" or something like that. The ones with post you can't really make out except for insults toward to the dub. And so on and so forth. I prefer eltists to n00bs, actually...if you managed to get on an elitist's good side, you can actually have an actual discussion with them. And they're not the main, ultimate reason why fans of mainstream anime are looked down on-they're the ones who are looking down, ironically. But n00bs basically cause them to do that. If there were no n00bs, they'll be no elitists, but even if there's not elitists, they'll still be n00bs...On the other hand though, some n00bs are nicer than they ever could be...but in conclusion: I still really don't like both, though. Anime's supposed to be a fun hobby (for those of us who are sane, at least xD )...please don't ruin it for the rest of the fans. D:
I don't understand the OC bashing though. Mary-Sue bashing, of course. But not all OCs are Mary-Sues, no matter how much Mary-Sue OCs there are. Some people say, "I want to read about the canon characters I love, not some random other character." But, if written well, an OC brings out more development in a CC by adding another character interaction relationship. Makes sense to me. Woe to the man who tries to stretch the imagination of man He shall be mocked; he shall be scourged by the blinkered guardians of morality { SONATA }
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[~ Sonata Euphoriacide ~]
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:48 pm
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