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 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:09 am
I have no idea if this subject has been raised before, but I can't be bothered to go trawling through all the pages of threads to find out.
Alucard (Adrian Fahrenheits Tepes) is a dhampir as he is half human and half vampire. His father is Lord/Count Dracula. He is quiet and reserved, but a kindly soul underneath that cold exterior.
The Vampire Hunter, D is a dhampir also. His father is also Dracula. Then, add to that, he is also quiet and reserved, and kind-hearted under a cold exterior.
Would you say they are the same person portrayed in two different ways? Some may say yes, and others may say no. Me? I'm not really sure, but I am leaning towards saying they're not the same person.
D in the 1985 film.
D in the newer film - Bloodlust.
Some people might think they're the same person in two different universes, but I'm more inclined to believe they could in-fact be brothers. I don't know if the writer of the Vampire Hunter D books, Hideyuki Kikuchi, knows the guy who created Alucard for Castlevania, and I suppose that's something we probably won't find out. I think it may be feasible though. However, the VHD universe is set roughly 10,000 years in the future.
There's that point to consider, but there's also another. With all the videogame versus threads we see, I thought perhaps we could raise that question here. Alucard versus D? They're both dhampirs and they're both sons of Dracula. We don't really see much of what Alucard can actually do in the games.
Maybe if he was in a CV anime we might get more of an insight. Please do not include Hellsing as an example. Alucard is portrayed like and ugly, hellish, evil son of a b***h in the pictures I've seen from Hellsing. I'm talking Vampire Hunter D and Castlevania's Alucard here. Those are the two legitimate characters I feel. Sorry if anyone likes Hellsing but it looks like a load of crap to me from what I've seen so far.
As much as I adore Alucard, right now, to me, D seems the tougher customer. I don't know why, and I love them both equally. In terms of skill, we see a heck of a lot of what D can do from both films that have been made as well as the books (which explain a lot and they're flipping good - a bit graphic at times, but GOOD).
Regardless, the two should really team up (unfortunately D prefers to work alone) because they both want to rid the world of vampires. Alucard, however, seems to have more animosity towards Dracula. D hates him as well, but he seems to see both sides of Dracula's character from what I've watched and read.
So, to compare...?
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:02 pm
Personally, I believe Alucard (Castlevania) would be the victor of the match. Sure, D has his skills, but Alucard has more than enough weapons to eventually defeat him.
Also, insulting Alucard of Hellsing is not too smart an idea, as he is Dracula, just in a non Castlevania reality. (BTW, he's ment to be portrayed as a monster, more than the debonair Count we know from such portrayals as of Bela Lugosi, or Christopher Lee)
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:46 pm
Alucard defeat D? Blasphemy I say! We can't even begin to comprehend how powerful D is in his "Berserk mode." Ancient powerful Vampires like Carmilla who begin devastatingly powerful are killed in the blink of an eye the second D's life becomes threatened. If for nothing else lefty gives D the edge. The second Alucard turns mist to avoid damage he'd get sucked into the void of nothing.
ANYway. Although they could technically be the same person or brothers in different universes, it wasn't really meant to be that way I think. They are 2 very distinct characters in their own ways and are just both following the very common formula of the self-hating half-breed that must kill it's own kind. The biggest difference in personality is I'd say in the fact that where Alucard wishes to seal himself away in his self-loathing after defeating only his father, D actually hunts other vampires to reach some sort of redemption. They definitely couldn't be brothers though considering Lisa was the CV Dracula's only human love after becoming a creature of the night. And really, when would he find the time? Every time he is resurrected he is killed shortly afterward. The whole prospect of being cold on the outside and kind-hearted within isn't even unique to half-breed characters though, it's just common as hell in general. Who can blame them though, when you've lived for hundreds or thousands of years you tend to clam up.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:25 pm
You forgot that the both of them EXUDE sex beams.
X3
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iStoleYurVamps
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:03 am
iStoleYurVamps You forgot that the both of them EXUDE sex beams. X3 *snicker* This fight would give me naughty dreams for weeks.I definitely don't think we have the full picture. Has anyone here read the Vampire Hunter D Book series? Anyone? That would give us more insight on what D could or couldn't do. But without having read the book series (but seeing both D movies...) I think they'd end up in a stalemate (possibly getting slashed/stabbed/hacked/burnt in the process.) For another, I don't think they'd team up, as they're loners. It seems more likely that they'd give a nod to the other's abilities (which is androgynous half-vampire loner speak for "... fine, you're good, I'll give you that.") and then part ways to do ... whatever it is they want to do. By the by. I happen to LIKE Hellsing's Alucard.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:03 am
Well I ain't never seen anything about Vampire Hunter D but I'd like to. And since I have no knowledge on the subject, I can't really say much, can I? rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:34 am
Having read the first book and starting to get into the second one, I think I have my verdict:
1. Alucard would beat D.
2. D would come back to life via living hand,
3. then D would beat Alucard,
4. who would then get resurrected by his fairy.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:38 am
Koemiko Having read the first book and starting to get into the second one, I think I have my verdict: 1. Alucard would beat D. 2. D would come back to life via living hand, 3. then D would beat Alucard, 4. who would then get resurrected by his fairy. it's so true! so ya, D is cool, and I once speculated that they were the same. Who knows? it makes sense! At one point in time I also speculated that Hellsings very own Alucard had connections with the other badasses. unfortunately, Hellsings Alucard is not a dhampir but a full blooded nosferatu that by the 8th volume of the manga releases his true form as dracula! Yes, I am a Hellsing fan as well whee
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:26 pm
hypnocrown Well I ain't never seen anything about Vampire Hunter D but I'd like to. And since I have no knowledge on the subject, I can't really say much, can I? rolleyes
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:51 pm
Maybe they're only HALF brothers...
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:08 am
It's perhaps possible in D's timeline for them to be half brothers, but in the CV timeline, I must ask again, where would Drac find the time sweatdrop He only comes back for a few moments each game before being promptly sent back to hell.
It would also really help to determine who would win if we had some cannon insight into Alucard's strength. The entire game his power is directly influenced by those controlling him. We never even get a cutscene with him kicking anyone's a**, the only thing we have to go on is that he killed a hippogryph fairly easily and managed to defeat Dracula, but we don't know how big a feat that is since how dangerous they are is also dependant on the player. So for now it's all just speculation... And I'll speculate that D wins ninja He didn't live all those thousands of years by luck. Alucard has the excuse that he survived because he was in hibernation, but D is in constant danger as a Hunter and still manages to live.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:37 am
Yeah, it's very hard to speculate like Shi says... It'd be great to see Al in the upcoming movie and see him fight.
If I ever get to see Vampire hunter D, I'll come back and post. 3nodding
EDIT: I've seen almost all 12 episodes of Hellsing and I do like its Alucard as well. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:18 pm
I always thought the same thing. When I was playing Castlevania SotN for the first time religiously I got a hold of an uber bootleg VHS copy of the First Vampire Hunter D movie. And both characters were VEEEEEEEERY similar, background wise is only the beginning. They almost behave alike and weapon wise, clothing wise. Alucard is only missing a hat and he WOULD be D.
I love both characters so much though, they played crucial parts in the days of my youth. Though the Hunter D game on PS1 is not very good XD, kinda fun though.
But I agree both characters are almost the same person, if not the same person. XD
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:27 am
Except, VHD is set in the year ... -checks book- 12,090 A.D.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:07 pm
Really? Nice to see you have the book (comic book, right?) K!
I really should look this up more. Don't have time right now I'm afraid...
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