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Nicotine Queen

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:48 pm


Finnish is a language in the Finno-Ugric family spoken by about 6 million people in Finland, Sweden, The US, Norway, Canada, Russia, Estonia, the majority of people being native to Finland. Finnish is not related to it's neighboring countries' languages.

Finnish is said to be a difficult language for one to learn, but in fact it is merely different. Some grammar bits that stand out in Finnish are:
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Lack of articles: Finnish has no words for "a, an, the" but sometimes words like 'se'- 'on' and 'yksi'- 'one' 'tämä'- that are used in an article-like manner.

Forming questions: Questions that are answered with a 'yes' or 'no', or that don't have a question word (e.g. What? Where? When? Why? etc.) have to have a suffix added to the verb.

"To have": The verb "to have" does not exist in Finnish therefore to expresses possession the case -lla/llä is added to the personal pronoun or subject of the sentence. (e.g. Minulla on uusi kamera- At me (there) is (a) new camera )

Making things negative: The word "ei" (no, not) works more like a verb in Finnish and is conjugated according to the personal pronoun. (En- I do not, Et- you do not, Ei= he/she/it/- does not, etc) 'Minä en halua...' = 'I do not want...' . Finnish has also has imperative forms of verbs ('älä'= don't, älköön= I don't)

Gender: In Finnish a grammatical gender does not exist. "Hän" is a word meaning "s/he".

Cases: Finnish cases correspond with prepositions. (e.g. -ssa= in so 'talossa'= 'in the house'

Future tense: Finnish has no future tense so instead of saying,"Tomorrow I'm going to go shopping" one would say, "Tomorrow I go shop".

Consonant graduation and other things:

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* final -i in nouns often (but not in new loanwords like grilli) changes to -e- in inflected forms, e.g. the genitive of kivi 'stone' is kiven (with -n as the genitive case suffix)

* final -nen (which is rather common in adjectives and occurs in nouns, too) in the singular nominative changes to -se- (or -s-) in other words, e.g. hevonen ‘horse’, hevoset ‘horses’

* consonant gradation: double consonants kk, pp, tt are often (basically, before closed syllables) replaced by single k, p, t, e.g. the genitive of lakki ‘cap’ is lakin

* similar phenomenon for single consonants: single k, p, and t are often replaced by absence of a consonant, v, and d, respectively, e.g. laki : lain, lupa : luvan, katu : kadun.


Another thing to be said about Finnish is how one can create one word to mean a whole sentence. This is probably the best example that I've seen:

Talossanikinko? = Do you mean in my houses too?

Talo= house
saa= cases corresponding to 'in'
ni= 'my'
kin= 'also'
ko?= indicates that this is a question

Note: There are separate words for 'my' and 'also' when not used inside of a word. "Minun" means 'my' and "myös" means 'also'.



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1. Introduction:
...Finnish Grammar bits
........Forming questions
........"To have"
........Making things negative
........Gender
........Cases
........Future Tense
........Consonant graduation & other things


2. Pronunciation:
....Consonants
....Vowels
....Diphthongs


3. Cases & Basic Grammar:
....Finnish cases
....Consonant graduation
........Final 'i'
........Final 'nen'
........Consonant graduation
........Single consonants
....Vowel harmony
........Ä and Ö
.......Other
...Object
.......Completed or half completed?


4. Verb Conjugation:
...Conjugating Finnish Verbs
........Present
........Perfect
........Imperfect
........Pluperfect
........Potential
........Potential perfect
........Conditional
........Conditional perfect
........Imperative present
........Imperative perfect
........Passive


5. Vocabulary
...Personal pronouns
...Basic vocabulary
......Alphabet
......Numbers
......Other
...Who?, What?, When?, Where?, How?, Why?
...Places, and people
...Basic verbs
...Slang or shortenings of words


6. Links
...Grammar links
...Vocabulary lists, and dictionaries
...Verbix, conjugate Finnish verbs
...Resources








Please anyone who wants to correct any grammar mistakes in this, please do so and send it to me in a PM. I will credit you.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:11 am


Introduction:
...Finnish Grammar bits


Forming questions:

Questions with a question word, (who, what, when, where, why, which, how) are made exactly the same as in English.

Missä on minun koira?
-Where is my dog?

Questions without a question word add the suffix kö/ko.

Onko tää sinun koira?
-Is that your dog.

The ko/kö is added to the verb "olla"- to be; in this sentece.

Rakastatko minua?
-Do you love me?

The ko/kö is added to the verb "love".


"To have":

In Finnish, there is no verb for "to have". If you want to say "I have" "you have" etc...you say "At __ there is"

Minulla on koira
-At me there is a dog

Or if you are using the infinite verb "to have" in a sentence you simply leave it out...

Saat kaiken täänän.
-You can [have] everything today


Negation:

In Finnish the word no is treated like a verb, and conjugated like a verb.

En= I don't
Et= You don't
Ei= She/he/it doesn't
Evät?= They don't
Ette?= You don't (formal)

I'm actually not sure about the last two since I've never seen them used.

En pidä kukat.
-I don't like flowers.

Gender:

Finnish does not have a grammatical gender...and there is one word for he/she. It is "hän".


Cases:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/finnish-cases.html

Finnish cases are not as hard as they are made out to be. They are simply prepositions added to the end of the word.

Consonant gradation applies to these words, too.

Taiva- sky
-ssa/ssä- in

Taivassa= In the sky

If there are umlauts, or an mostly i, e, and y's in the word then you add -ssä.

Rappukäytävä- staircase

Rappukäytävässä- In(at) the staircase.

Future Tense:

Finnish doesn't have a future tense...

I'm going to go to the store tomorrow= I go to the store tomorrow.

Consonant Graduation:

Consonant gradation must be done with the following letter combinations:

kk --> k
pp --> p
tt --> t
k --> - (k vanishes)
p --> v
t --> d
nt --> nn
rt --> rr
lke --> lje
rke --> rje

This happens when you add a case or conjugate a verb.

Conjugating a verb...

Nukkua- to sleep

Mä nukun
Sä nukut
Hän/Se nukku
Me nukumme
He nukuvat
Te nukutte

Or when a case is added...

Kukka- flower
Kukat- flowers

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:47 pm


I'm grounded so it'll be a while before I complete this.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:06 am


There are mistakes in there. Ie. there is slang and "official language" blended and there are some sentences translated wrong.

It seems that this is old topic and all but I just wanted to mention about this.

Gess Jahd

Greedy Hunter

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