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Sand From The Future(GTD)
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:00 am
Well, growing up, I always told myself that when I got older, I'd get a wife and have children and just stop caring about everything else and focus all of me, on them.
Life's pretty harsh, and it really takes a lot for you to be able to genuinely appreciate life. Lots of us just can't take it, there's just too much. So it's only logical for us to want to get away from it, but does anyone else look at those sort of relationships as a way of escaping the bigger picture? (Though I bl--dy well can't tell you what the bigger picture is.)
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:56 am
"Melissa thinks that for some people yes it is, but at the same time Melissa knows several people including herself that it isn't. She would like a family very much, but she still see's life beyond the family, the relationship and family would be very important, but Melissa would still focus on herself, and her many other dreams as best as she could. Melissa wants to live life to the best of her ability even though sometimes it makes her want to explode, she things it is worth it."
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:53 pm
This one will spare talking in the third person. As far as my line of thinking on such things goes, it's partly an escape from reality, but at the same time, it also alters our perception of reality. If it weren't for me falling so hard in the past for a girl that I know, I wouldn't have been able to write some of the beautiful poems that I have. It brings the world to a differnet light, for not many people are altruistic by nature. I'd love to be able to have a proper relationship with a lady, but sadly my luck has not been so grand. So, until I can find one who will love me as I am, I'll continue my own love, as a swordsman.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:11 am
Relationships that are formed to escape from the rest of your life (Instead of fitting into it) are obsessive and (in my experience) doomed to failure.
Makes ya think about why the divorce rate is so high, eh?
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:41 am
Relationships shouldn't really be entered into unless one feels that they will help you in your engagement with the world. In this sense relationships of fearful escapism are really not the way forward.
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:15 am
Masticatius Relationships that are formed to escape from the rest of your life (Instead of fitting into it) are obsessive and (in my experience) doomed to failure. Makes ya think about why the divorce rate is so high, eh? In movies you often hear bosses telling stressed employees to go home to their family. This is of course to help them take their mind off the stresses of everyday working life and in that sense, they're escaping work life for a small period of time. Now in my eyes, that's healthy and fits perfectly in with a normal life. I honestly believe the two can work entwined. There's so many contributions to the divorce rate being so high. I believe a major factor is human greed, always feeling like we're missing out on something better. Another would be how people tend to marry too quickly and don't get a good understanding of the person they're marrying until it's too late. And of course, low tolerance.
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Sand From The Future(GTD)
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Sand From The Future(GTD)
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:24 am
Invictus_88 Relationships shouldn't really be entered into unless one feels that they will help you in your engagement with the world. In this sense relationships of fearful escapism are really not the way forward. When you say "The way forward." is that just in a general sense, or are you aware of a goal that we should be heading to, if so, could you tell me? I'm curious. What I've got so far, is people are agreeing with relationships being used as an escape, but saying it's not a wise move. I'm wondering if marriage is a wise move, and that perhaps there could be some middle ground with more leverage so people wont feel so held down. But then you've got to consider if children came into the equation. Here's a question for you. Would you rather be the child of a divorced marriage, or the child of a couple that were never married?
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:59 pm
Invictus_88 Here's a question for you. Would you rather be the child of a divorced marriage, or the child of a couple that were never married? A child of parents that were never married.
Hell, kids who have divorced parents are either totally screwed-up or relieved. Sometimes with kids of parents who were never married, its easier, because you don't have to live with the anguish and emotional turmoil that goes along with divorce.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:28 pm
Ive never thought as relationships as escapes. I mean.
I get more reality in relationships than I do anywhere else D:
But I guess, if you just stop focusig on yourself to focus on your family, partner, whatever, I can see it being that way.
I mean, love, or just flirting and all that can take you away, up up into the clouds and keep you happy.
But I dont know. I guess it all goes about how you go around your relationships. Weather or not their dramaish filled with the stuff around you. Superficial with all the love and cloudyness. Or just down to earth, and being real and realistic and whatnot.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:59 pm
Ha ha, I had some relationships that made me wish that I could escape...
Relationships are hard, and they need to be based in reality or else they go very bad very fast. However, sometimes the love you get from a good relationship helps you deal with the harshness of life. That's not escapism, that's normal.
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Sand From The Future(GTD)
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:25 am
Missy Wyvern Ha ha, I had some relationships that made me wish that I could escape... Relationships are hard, and they need to be based in reality or else they go very bad very fast. However, sometimes the love you get from a good relationship helps you deal with the harshness of life. That's not escapism, that's normal. Honesty. If you were honest with your partner, and told them that you cared about them, but the reason why you were getting into the relationship was because you wanted to take your mind off everything, they'd be understanding and accepting. If that doesn't suit them though, then they wouldn't have to get into the relationship in the first place (I'm sure that there's people out there from both sexes that'd find the concept appealing). I seriously don't think they're doomed to fail but it's easy to understand why the average person wants to simply pass the idea of people getting into relationships to escape reality as being stupid and doomed to failure. It's not as if the usual reasons people get into relationships are much better though. "I've got nothing better to do." "I'm really horny." "Mother nature's presence is really kicking in and I'm not strong willed enough to resist it so I'll call my weakness Love and give into it. Please do the same." Escapism is perfectly normal. You might not get as much out of life if you do so, can't have that because we're all greedy. But if it were to work properly, it'd make life a hell of a lot easier and it's better than the other ways people escape. At least you'd be repopulating. And for the record, relationships don't really NEED to be based on anything.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:42 pm
Missy Wyvern However, sometimes the love you get from a good relationship helps you deal with the harshness of life. That's not escapism, that's normal. Escapism is normal, in my opinion, I know that wasn't your point though. I think there's a difference between having someone there to help me deal with my problems, and someone there to help me ignore them. The latter I would call escapism.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:43 pm
Missy Wyvern Ha ha, I had some relationships that made me wish that I could escape... Relationships are hard, and they need to be based in reality or else they go very bad very fast. However, sometimes the love you get from a good relationship helps you deal with the harshness of life. That's not escapism, that's normal. I agree.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:14 am
Masticatius Missy Wyvern However, sometimes the love you get from a good relationship helps you deal with the harshness of life. That's not escapism, that's normal. Escapism is normal, in my opinion, I know that wasn't your point though. I think there's a difference between having someone there to help me deal with my problems, and someone there to help me ignore them. The latter I would call escapism. Well, I suppose that for me, it can usually be a mix of both for such things, being a romantic and all. Half is the fact that I know that I could count on the lady I'm after to help me as I would her, and yet, I have other times where simply the thought of being able to spend time with her puts me into a state of bliss. I think relationships are really a duality: both escapism and a means of charging headlong into what needs to be done.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:56 am
Your mom's a form of escapism.
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