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 Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:06 pm
i been really sick and really foggy in the mind! * *if i say something stupid please just ignore!**anyways here a picture i been working on, im having a hard time with the violin, will the figure with the violin! and i just want a couple of opinion of the figure pose! this is just a really rough sketch! so nit pick away! NOTE: This picture is not my avi! i dressed my avi to it! XD it because i saw the aug item and i said why not? 
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:21 am
All I can say is use photo references.  I know it's not the same angle, but just look at the hand placement. The ones in your drawing are wrongly placed. Hmm... besides that, I'm currently too lazy to red line. ;p It also doesn't help that I don't really know much about Violins.
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:40 pm
Wolfger All I can say is use photo references. I know it's not the same angle, but just look at the hand placement. The ones in your drawing are wrongly placed. Hmm... besides that, I'm currently too lazy to red line. ;p It also doesn't help that I don't really know much about Violins. i am using photo ref and i borrowed my friend violin its right in front of me! and note being played is b sharp! why, because its my fave note on a violin! there are not frets ona violin, but it not the violin im having trouble with it the over all pose of the figure, is it in proportion or not?
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:16 pm
Natorra Red-wolf Wolfger All I can say is use photo references. I know it's not the same angle, but just look at the hand placement. The ones in your drawing are wrongly placed. Hmm... besides that, I'm currently too lazy to red line. ;p It also doesn't help that I don't really know much about Violins. i am using photo ref and i borrowed my friend violin its right in front of me! and note being played is b sharp! why, because its my fave note on a violin! there are not frets ona violin, but it not the violin im having trouble with it the over all pose of the figure, is it in proportion or not? ... don't you mean a c natural? and I've never seen a right handed violin before in all my 12 years of playing. I don't see anything wrong with the proportion, although the head seems wrong. I don't have the time to redline it now, but if you leave this thread open, I'll do one Saturday. It's a very nice idea by the way. biggrin
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:21 pm
evldemonchild Natorra Red-wolf Wolfger All I can say is use photo references. I know it's not the same angle, but just look at the hand placement. The ones in your drawing are wrongly placed. Hmm... besides that, I'm currently too lazy to red line. ;p It also doesn't help that I don't really know much about Violins. i am using photo ref and i borrowed my friend violin its right in front of me! and note being played is b sharp! why, because its my fave note on a violin! there are not frets ona violin, but it not the violin im having trouble with it the over all pose of the figure, is it in proportion or not? ... don't you mean a c natural? and I've never seen a right handed violin before in all my 12 years of playing. I don't see anything wrong with the proportion, although the head seems wrong. I don't have the time to redline it now, but if you leave this thread open, I'll do one Saturday. It's a very nice idea by the way. biggrin sure i would love one~ i know about the right hand. me and me friend both have one major thing in common with our left arms, in our left hand nerve problems and we can barely use force or pressure, and cant move our wrist, Wel she was a little kid and before i knew her, her grandfather made her this special violin on the condition she plays it a little. The stain work on it really beautiful! c natural you say...well i was close, i dont know the string i was just going by ear! and what i hear. but if thats a c natural thank you for correcting me!
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:39 am
Hmm... sorry if I sounded like an a**. Didn't mean to be all "blah blah" and all. Anyway, let's see... Well the dragon and the character don't seem to fit very well together. Is the dragon just a background sketch or actually part of th drawing? Cause if it is part of the drawing, you'd want to give it the same perspective and angle as the violin player. As for the character it's self... The pose is great, maybe just work on your head more. Hmmm.... It'd be kind of neat to give the head a tilt towards the audience. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/kumiutada/Head.jpgOr... following your angle... http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/kumiutada/RedLIneHead.jpgThere was a slight few small problems. Actually I could be terribly wrong. *Shrugs* I'm just trying to help so don't feel offended by anything I say.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:56 pm
Wolfger Hmm... sorry if I sounded like an a**. Didn't mean to be all "blah blah" and all. Anyway, let's see... Well the dragon and the character don't seem to fit very well together. Is the dragon just a background sketch or actually part of th drawing? Cause if it is part of the drawing, you'd want to give it the same perspective and angle as the violin player. As for the character it's self... The pose is great, maybe just work on your head more. Hmmm.... It'd be kind of neat to give the head a tilt towards the audience. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/kumiutada/Head.jpgOr... following your angle... http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/kumiutada/RedLIneHead.jpgThere was a slight few small problems. Actually I could be terribly wrong. *Shrugs* I'm just trying to help so don't feel offended by anything I say. if i thought you were being an a**, i would of said so! No i didn't see you as being an a**. yes the dragon is part of the drawing, but the way he going to be colored in the image is im not telling. he planned in there but how he comes out is a secret! now for the first idea is a good one but there is one small problem! - her hair would be on the strings (not good i hear) the secand one is about what im looking for~
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:03 pm
I'm actually not the best myself when it comes to perspective, but here's an attempt:  The main thing I did was make the curves a little bit... sharper? Since you have to keep in mind that this PoV will make everything look a little bit squashed. I haven't played viola is years now, but I think the instrument should be resting more on the shoulder than your picture implies, so I shifted the shoulder/arm slightly. Don't take my word for it if you don't want to XD;; Again, I haven't played in years, and my memory's hazy.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:29 am
 As for the violin, there is space between the violin and the shoulder because of a shoulder rest. Not using one hurts... biggrin ; and the head will always be slightly tilted because the chin rest cradles the side of your jaw close to the chin, so for those of us with long hair, we tend to pull it back. I put a reference picture in there that I hope will help. I actually think my red lines are off, such as the shoulder I drew in being too far from the jaw. Normally, one should be able to hold a violin with only their jaw and shoulder, so it's a bit like squeezing, if that helps. Sorry I didn't do much, had to squeeze this in between chores last night and I only saved a jpg! I hope I helped... and sorry for butchering your dragon; I couldn't help it. biggrin
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:12 pm
Nikhalia I'm actually not the best myself when it comes to perspective, but here's an attempt: The main thing I did was make the curves a little bit... sharper? Since you have to keep in mind that this PoV will make everything look a little bit squashed. I haven't played viola is years now, but I think the instrument should be resting more on the shoulder than your picture implies, so I shifted the shoulder/arm slightly. Don't take my word for it if you don't want to XD;; Again, I haven't played in years, and my memory's hazy. Ok now i see how to do the face better!
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:16 pm
evldemonchild As for the violin, there is space between the violin and the shoulder because of a shoulder rest. Not using one hurts... biggrin ; and the head will always be slightly tilted because the chin rest cradles the side of your jaw close to the chin, so for those of us with long hair, we tend to pull it back. I put a reference picture in there that I hope will help. I actually think my red lines are off, such as the shoulder I drew in being too far from the jaw. Normally, one should be able to hold a violin with only their jaw and shoulder, so it's a bit like squeezing, if that helps. Sorry I didn't do much, had to squeeze this in between chores last night and I only saved a jpg! I hope I helped... and sorry for butchering your dragon; I couldn't help it. biggrin yes i see what you are getting at, but not quite what i was looking for! XD the dragon need a lot of work, but i always do that on my own trems! but what you did waas too funny!
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