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 Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:46 pm
Ok, people It's my turn to help the guild out so this is it. Debating topics in the books is all well and good but what about the real world where we are faced with challenges everyday? Most of this guild is Slytherin (DUH!) but not everyone is, so those of you who aren't this is a good place for you to tell us sly slytherins how you really feel!
Granted I had a lot of trouble thinking up topics for us to discuss. THe thought that kept popping into my head was the war in america but since not all of you are american I wanted to stay away from that. If you have any ideas just pop them in and if you want to debate the war go right ahead!
Anyway for the first topic on here I'm choosing premarital sex. Cliche I know but it's an interesting topic. Maybe we all have the same views maybe not but share 'em anyway!
RULES!!!!!!
1. RESPECTRESPECTRESPECT! I will not have anyone badmouthing people for their ideas!
2. Don't be nervous to say what you mean and mean what you say.
3. If you know that something you are going to write will possibly offend someone, DON'T WRITE IT! You can post your opinion on things but don't go overboard and you know when you cross the line. If you don't know it then I or someone else posting WILL!
4. We may need these rules, we may not. They are here just in case.
5. I am not a mod. I cannot ban you or threaten to but if it gets too out of hand I will talk to Kat, Shadow, or Diana.
6. If you think I'm turning in to a crazy dictator, I'll have you thrown in jail! Kidding! Ask one of the mods to come check it out, if they agree let me know and I'll go to reform school and lighten up.
My view on premarital sex is that it is ok. As long as you use protection if you don't want to get pregnant and you give consent I don't see why not. I know that there is no 100% way of avoiding pregnancy and all that but there are 99.9% ways of doing it. Hoestly I don't see why people are so up-in-arms about it. Decades ago girls and boys were married at 12, therefore they had sex that young too. Why is it any different now whether or not we have sex? Yes, I know that not all couple haveing sex are under the age of 20 but I think the debate is about people who are underage that are having sex. So here's my post now have at it!
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:47 am
Interesting topic to start off with. xd
In my opinion, about premarital sex, it's alright. Though just like you said, with protection.
I say one should have at least a fairly stable income before even considering the fact on bringing children into the world. Plus if you plan to be stuck with that person for raising the kid.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:09 pm
And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|I don't believe in it, but that's partly a religious thing. Religion aside, I think it's a risk not worth taking, because if even the slightest thing goes wrong, both you and your reputation will suffer.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:52 am
Premarital sex... very interesting, Havoc.
Now, unlike Jay, I'm not a very religious person. My mother used to drag me to church with her every Sunday, and then we stopped and she only took me to church as punishment if I ever did something really stupid. So, this is clear that I'm not very religious at all. I apologize dear Lord, but I'm not.
Honestly, I think that if you care very strongly for someone to the point that you are sure that you want to give yourself to someone, than premarital sex is fine. Don't have sex for sex, you have to make sure that it's with someone that you care very deeply about, or even love. Yes, there is the risk that you may have children, and if that happens then you'll have to do deal with it. But, it'll be the child of two people that really care and love each other, so you'll be fine. If you don't have a steady job, then you'll get one for the child, and visa versa for the father/mother. If you want to have sex before marriage, you should always use protection, but go in knowing that you have to accept the consequences if something were to happen.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:18 pm
And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|On the other hand, an unplanned child, especially one born out of wedlock, can ruin even the most stable and loving of relationships, and stable jobs aren't always hard to find, especially when you're trying to juggle the rest of your life at the same time.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:10 am
Although a child can ruin such relationships, it can also bring people closer together. I know I was a child born out of wedlock, and because of such my parents eventually got married so that I would have a proper family. It can go either way. And, it's not like they didn't really love each other, because they are still together twenty years later. I think it all depends on the people and their level of responsibility. To have sex, whether you are married or not, you should be at least grown up enough to understand what you are getting yourself into and be prepared for the outcome, no matter what it is. And, if you go into a relationship and you eventually have sex, then you should've already informed yourself that a child is a possibility.
And, one doesn't have to be young to have premarital sex.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:40 pm
And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|Being together doesn't mean much in some cases. My parents have been together for almost nineteen years. They hate each other. A lot. The only reason they stayed married for more than six months in the first place is because my dad found out my mother was pregnant with me. Granted, there was no premarital sex, but still.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:38 am
As long as you're responsible about it, go for it. I mean, use a condom, and take birth control pills. If you have pre-marital sex without those things, I do not approve. I think you are a moron.
If you're taking appropriate precautions, though, I don't see any legitimate reason it's a bad idea. Except for the religious factor, which is significant, yes, but I don't think it's something that should effect those who do not subscribe to the religion.
So, yeah. Know the risks, think before you act. Those are the only pre-requisites, in my mind.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:21 pm
Kat Know the risks, think before you act. And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|And that pretty much sums up a Slytherin's attitude to almost anything in one sentence.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:26 pm
of course Shadow, we wouldn't be Slytherins otherwise. I have to ask though, why would your parents get married if they didn't like each other that much? Oh what do you guys think of my rules? tyranical much?
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:50 am
I don't think that's just the Slytherin's view. That practically what I said. Know what you're getting yourself into before you have premarital sex, and if you're still ok with gettin' your romp on, then go ahead. I just said it more casually.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:09 pm
colonelhavoc of course Shadow, we wouldn't be Slytherins otherwise. I have to ask though, why would your parents get married if they didn't like each other that much? Oh what do you guys think of my rules? tyranical much? And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|My dad had just divorced; my mum wanted to get away from her family; they both found each other...convenient, I guess. But over time, their personalities just clashed way too much. Dad's from the Muggle equivalent of an old blood family, and he's pretty rigid when it comes to principles and things (he's where I get many of my Slytherin ideals from), and my mother is laid back, impulsive and not altogether good with self-discipline. It was never going to work.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:18 pm
Oh sorry to hear that. Yea I think you shouldn't have sex with the possibility of having kids if you can't handle either
a) putting someone's needs before your own
b) you can't stay with the parent
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:12 pm
colonelhavoc Oh sorry to hear that. Yea I think you shouldn't have sex with the possibility of having kids if you can't handle either
a) putting someone's needs before your own
b) you can't stay with the parent And power-hungry Slytherin loved those of great ambition...|> ---|Don't be; it's not such a big deal.
I think you're right about needing to put someone else's needs before your own, which is why I think premarital sex is a bad idea - having that level of dedication to someone else after marriage, let alone before, is hard, and I've always believed in putting myself first, like the good little Slytherin I am.|--- <|Slytherin Pride!
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:28 am
Oh Jay, no matter how much we clash on certain things, I still send love in your general direction. The way your parents are, it kind of sounds like my own, except... in reverse, kind of. Er, well, their both kind of... impulsive and yet, they have some sort of class thing going on. My Dad is a city boy and my mother is a country girl, so my Dad knows all the proper mannerisms and all that jazz. I don't really think it's because he wanted to be that way, it's just how he grew up. But then, he goes off and does really stupid things sometimes and he amuses me to no end. And then there is my mother, which is the embodiment of someone who is laid-back and a cheater at self-discipline. And yet, she hold morale so high...
I have the rebellious city boy for a father, and the God's little country girl for a mother. *sigh* How weird.
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