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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:22 am
Just wanna see your guys' views on this whole debate. State what you are and why so. Thx!
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:13 pm
Both to an extent. If the mother's WAY too young or has some sort of health issue where if she continued with pregnancy/birthed this baby, either her life would be ruined medically, or she'd die. But if she's old enough to give birth successfully and doesn't have serious medical issues involving it, I don't think she should be able to get an abortion.
Only if it's gonna threaten the baby and the mom if she carried it out. Why kill two people when you coulda killed one? Besides, if I was born with an intense disability, and doctors knew it from the start, I woulda wished I was aborted.
But if it's just an "uh-oh, we're not married" type of thing, I say it should be illegal for them because it totally coulda been avoided. And slut numbers would be fewer, along with whore numbers, as well, if they didn't have that to fall back on.
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:52 pm
~Just a second....I say, if you don't want a baby, put it up for adaption, if your going to die, cut yourself open, and rip it out.. Or if the babies REALLY ******** up and has eyes and a mouth on it's foot, and tows on it's face, or is already dead, why the hell wouldn't you get an abortion!? ....I have to go find something to beat you to death with~
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:37 pm
Shai-tan ~Just a second....I say, if you don't want a baby, put it up for adaption, if your going to die, cut yourself open, and rip it out.. Or if the babies REALLY ******** up and has eyes and a mouth on it's foot, and tows on it's face, or is already dead, why the hell wouldn't you get an abortion!? ....I have to go find something to beat you to death with~
Exactly! But if you put yer kid up for adoption, please make sure you stay in contact with the child, and be with it as it grows up and visit it frequently, and let it know you love it, and give it birthday and christmas gifts and stuff, just to make sure we don't spew another emo kid out there. Not good for the kid's psyche or the kids around it.
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:18 am
If the child has something messed up with it, I don't think that it should be aborted. Because we cannot tell it whether it's happy that way or not. I mean look at people with down syndrom, we look at them as weird and retarded but to them there happy. They don't see anything wrong with them. And what about during the 60's when babies were being born without arms? The people that are still alive without arms are happy. There enjoying there life. We can't tell them if there suffering and then abolish them from life.
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:37 am
Krazy-Koo If the child has something messed up with it, I don't think that it should be aborted. Because we cannot tell it whether it's happy that way or not. I mean look at people with down syndrom, we look at them as weird and retarded but to them there happy. They don't see anything wrong with them. And what about during the 60's when babies were being born without arms? The people that are still alive without arms are happy. There enjoying there life. We can't tell them if there suffering and then abolish them from life.
But also think about how they really can't get a job, so they're supported by the government, and the government gets its moneys from taxpayers, so it's all being paid for by the rest of the people, and if people weren't born with disabilities, taxmoneys would be used to pay for other stuff and Granholm will stop freakin out about loss of revenue and would stop issuing higher taxes and stop recieving less revenue and Michigan's economy won't suck horribly anymore.
Of course I was never saying that horribly disabled babies should be aborted all the time no matter what. I was actually saying that they shouldn't abort perfectly healthy children just because of a relationship issue. It's the parents' faults. But if the baby's all deformed or something, and would prolly die in the process of birth or die young, you might as well end it before you get too attatched and heartbroken, or if life threatening to the mother, one life ended isn't as bad as two.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:11 pm
Particle Wad Krazy-Koo If the child has something messed up with it, I don't think that it should be aborted. Because we cannot tell it whether it's happy that way or not. I mean look at people with down syndrom, we look at them as weird and retarded but to them there happy. They don't see anything wrong with them. And what about during the 60's when babies were being born without arms? The people that are still alive without arms are happy. There enjoying there life. We can't tell them if there suffering and then abolish them from life.
But also think about how they really can't get a job, so they're supported by the government, and the government gets its moneys from taxpayers, so it's all being paid for by the rest of the people, and if people weren't born with disabilities, taxmoneys would be used to pay for other stuff and Granholm will stop freakin out about loss of revenue and would stop issuing higher taxes and stop recieving less revenue and Michigan's economy won't suck horribly anymore.
Of course I was never saying that horribly disabled babies should be aborted all the time no matter what. I was actually saying that they shouldn't abort perfectly healthy children just because of a relationship issue. It's the parents' faults. But if the baby's all deformed or something, and would prolly die in the process of birth or die young, you might as well end it before you get too attatched and heartbroken, or if life threatening to the mother, one life ended isn't as bad as two.
Did you know there are just as many cases of women dieing in birth as their are women dieing in abortions. So really, your life could be threatened having a baby at the same time aborting it. Don't wanna kid? Then don't have sex! I tell you, America thinks there's a solution to everything nowadays. Deformed children have special abilities yes, but let's look. They're human, have just as much rights as we do such as"life, liberty, and justice" written in the Constitution to all men and women. But because they look different all of a sudden those rights are taken away? I don't care if our government has to support them, I care about the fact their is a being out there who is getting their rights to life taken away from them just because of their look, features, and abilities.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:52 am
I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:55 pm
Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
Damn, your right, it would suck to be adopted... hmm... Well, I guess, it depends on the circumstances... But then there are those religious people who are all like "O noez!! J00 cannt bee getin' ann aburtion, iz al angnst God an stufz! i spant al me cilldhod n du Catholic scol sistum soez i nvr lerned ta speal" not saying that religious people are stupid, I just think that region in school is stupid, cause it cuts into normal learning, and I thought that was what Sunday school was for...
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:46 pm
Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
If you don't want to have a baby and are not ready to have one then don't do it! Simple as that and those idiots running around saying oh no I dids it! well then they think abortion is a solution. Having an abortion can just as emotionally disturb you as your view of giving up to adoption. Many women regret their abortions, start double thinking of what their child could have become. It's sad that everyone thinks there is a solution to everything. And do you know how rare the case is when a mother is going to die during labor? If you think abortion should only be for that than be it, everything else it's the person's fault not the childs. Even in rape, you are the victim not the child and the child should be allowed to live. And all those drop outs out there that have to drop out to raise a child you can't blame the child, its the person. They're are the ones that screwed up there lives for getting into a relationship like that in the first place. And those irresponsible women should learn a lesson or two for being stupid... maybe it'll straighten them up. And also remember, them having a an abortion can screw them up as well... their really is no way out of having a child. You don't want it, don't have sex. Simple as that. And you amaze me... what is the point of abortion? An unwanted kid... and yet you say adoption is a form of an unwanted kid. And it is, but for the better reasons and not the bad.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:40 pm
Krazy-Koo Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
If you don't want to have a baby and are not ready to have one then don't do it! Simple as that and those idiots running around saying oh no I dids it! well then they think abortion is a solution. Having an abortion can just as emotionally disturb you as your view of giving up to adoption. Many women regret their abortions, start double thinking of what their child could have become. It's sad that everyone thinks there is a solution to everything. And do you know how rare the case is when a mother is going to die during labor? If you think abortion should only be for that than be it, everything else it's the person's fault not the childs. Even in rape, you are the victim not the child and the child should be allowed to live. And all those drop outs out there that have to drop out to raise a child you can't blame the child, its the person. They're are the ones that screwed up there lives for getting into a relationship like that in the first place. And those irresponsible women should learn a lesson or two for being stupid... maybe it'll straighten them up. And also remember, them having a an abortion can screw them up as well... their really is no way out of having a child. You don't want it, don't have sex. Simple as that. And you amaze me... what is the point of abortion? An unwanted kid... and yet you say adoption is a form of an unwanted kid. And it is, but for the better reasons and not the bad.
True, though she does pose a strong point about adoption. And a reply to the earlier post: I'm not saying something like maybe a wonky foot or something, I'm saying like wonk'd up heart or lungs or bloodstream or uberserious wonkage of brain or something that would prevent the child from living past like 2 anyways. Something SERIOUS. Peoples' lives are risked in abortions? I didn't know that... All the more reason I should feel against it, I suppose.
If it was illegal, then people wouldn't be 'sleeping' around so much because they won't have that to fall back on. And if they do anyways and are cursed with childraising, heck they've learned their lesson and will tell their friends it's not worth it so that they stop, and in general the whole USA's unmarrage sex should decrease.
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:33 am
The Great Particle Wad Krazy-Koo Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
If you don't want to have a baby and are not ready to have one then don't do it! Simple as that and those idiots running around saying oh no I dids it! well then they think abortion is a solution. Having an abortion can just as emotionally disturb you as your view of giving up to adoption. Many women regret their abortions, start double thinking of what their child could have become. It's sad that everyone thinks there is a solution to everything. And do you know how rare the case is when a mother is going to die during labor? If you think abortion should only be for that than be it, everything else it's the person's fault not the childs. Even in rape, you are the victim not the child and the child should be allowed to live. And all those drop outs out there that have to drop out to raise a child you can't blame the child, its the person. They're are the ones that screwed up there lives for getting into a relationship like that in the first place. And those irresponsible women should learn a lesson or two for being stupid... maybe it'll straighten them up. And also remember, them having a an abortion can screw them up as well... their really is no way out of having a child. You don't want it, don't have sex. Simple as that. And you amaze me... what is the point of abortion? An unwanted kid... and yet you say adoption is a form of an unwanted kid. And it is, but for the better reasons and not the bad.
True, though she does pose a strong point about adoption. And a reply to the earlier post: I'm not saying something like maybe a wonky foot or something, I'm saying like wonk'd up heart or lungs or bloodstream or uberserious wonkage of brain or something that would prevent the child from living past like 2 anyways. Something SERIOUS. Peoples' lives are risked in abortions? I didn't know that... All the more reason I should feel against it, I suppose.
If it was illegal, then people wouldn't be 'sleeping' around so much because they won't have that to fall back on. And if they do anyways and are cursed with childraising, heck they've learned their lesson and will tell their friends it's not worth it so that they stop, and in general the whole USA's unmarrage sex should decrease.
You never take away the chance of life bev... if it has some cardiovascular problems then you try to help it when it gets born, not kill it. Other than that. Good job! *pats back*
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:21 pm
Krazy-Koo The Great Particle Wad Krazy-Koo Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
If you don't want to have a baby and are not ready to have one then don't do it! Simple as that and those idiots running around saying oh no I dids it! well then they think abortion is a solution. Having an abortion can just as emotionally disturb you as your view of giving up to adoption. Many women regret their abortions, start double thinking of what their child could have become. It's sad that everyone thinks there is a solution to everything. And do you know how rare the case is when a mother is going to die during labor? If you think abortion should only be for that than be it, everything else it's the person's fault not the childs. Even in rape, you are the victim not the child and the child should be allowed to live. And all those drop outs out there that have to drop out to raise a child you can't blame the child, its the person. They're are the ones that screwed up there lives for getting into a relationship like that in the first place. And those irresponsible women should learn a lesson or two for being stupid... maybe it'll straighten them up. And also remember, them having a an abortion can screw them up as well... their really is no way out of having a child. You don't want it, don't have sex. Simple as that. And you amaze me... what is the point of abortion? An unwanted kid... and yet you say adoption is a form of an unwanted kid. And it is, but for the better reasons and not the bad.
True, though she does pose a strong point about adoption. And a reply to the earlier post: I'm not saying something like maybe a wonky foot or something, I'm saying like wonk'd up heart or lungs or bloodstream or uberserious wonkage of brain or something that would prevent the child from living past like 2 anyways. Something SERIOUS. Peoples' lives are risked in abortions? I didn't know that... All the more reason I should feel against it, I suppose.
If it was illegal, then people wouldn't be 'sleeping' around so much because they won't have that to fall back on. And if they do anyways and are cursed with childraising, heck they've learned their lesson and will tell their friends it's not worth it so that they stop, and in general the whole USA's unmarrage sex should decrease.
You never take away the chance of life bev... if it has some cardiovascular problems then you try to help it when it gets born, not kill it. Other than that. Good job! *pats back*
Yey! Though what about if the problem is next to insolvable, and the operation nececary for potentially somewhat curing the child is risky and severely expensive, the chance at survival is slim, yet they go through it and do it anyway, and not only do they have to see the baby, go through the pains of giving birth to it, getting attatched to it, and then lose it, they're now left with a HUUUUUUGE surgical fine that their insurance may not even pay for, and they'd have to come up with the money out of their own pocket and not even have the child?
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:57 am
The Great Particle Wad Krazy-Koo Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
If you don't want to have a baby and are not ready to have one then don't do it! Simple as that and those idiots running around saying oh no I dids it! well then they think abortion is a solution. Having an abortion can just as emotionally disturb you as your view of giving up to adoption. Many women regret their abortions, start double thinking of what their child could have become. It's sad that everyone thinks there is a solution to everything. And do you know how rare the case is when a mother is going to die during labor? If you think abortion should only be for that than be it, everything else it's the person's fault not the childs. Even in rape, you are the victim not the child and the child should be allowed to live. And all those drop outs out there that have to drop out to raise a child you can't blame the child, its the person. They're are the ones that screwed up there lives for getting into a relationship like that in the first place. And those irresponsible women should learn a lesson or two for being stupid... maybe it'll straighten them up. And also remember, them having a an abortion can screw them up as well... their really is no way out of having a child. You don't want it, don't have sex. Simple as that. And you amaze me... what is the point of abortion? An unwanted kid... and yet you say adoption is a form of an unwanted kid. And it is, but for the better reasons and not the bad.
True, though she does pose a strong point about adoption. And a reply to the earlier post: I'm not saying something like maybe a wonky foot or something, I'm saying like wonk'd up heart or lungs or bloodstream or uberserious wonkage of brain or something that would prevent the child from living past like 2 anyways. Something SERIOUS. Peoples' lives are risked in abortions? I didn't know that... All the more reason I should feel against it, I suppose.
If it was illegal, then people wouldn't be 'sleeping' around so much because they won't have that to fall back on. And if they do anyways and are cursed with childraising, heck they've learned their lesson and will tell their friends it's not worth it so that they stop, and in general the whole USA's unmarrage sex should decrease.
Bev... that case would be listed under extraordinary or exotic. Do you know how often that happens? And there is no medical case out there in which an abortion is needed.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:19 pm
Krazy-Koo The Great Particle Wad Krazy-Koo Kur ai I'm for abortion. There's a lot of situations where I think abortion is acceptable. From "o shi, the condom broke! I'm not ready to have a baby", to being raped, to it being life threatening to have the child.
Look at all those teen mums out there. They have to drop out of school most times, the father of the child usually walks out or has to drop out of school as well to support them, and they look at what should be a rewarding experience as a traumatic one that screwed up their life.
Also those girls that sleep around that end up getting pregnant.. Do you think they can raise a child when they're so irresponisble to begin with? Their kids usually end up being little hell raisers, with stupid first names. Or completely neglected by their mum and are raised by their grandparents.
If you put the kid up for adoption you'll probably always have it in the back of your mind, with "One day they'll find out they're adopted and try to find me" And the kid might be devastated when they find out they were adopted. Plus imagine if they ask you why you put them up for it. "Oh sorry, you were obviously unwanted, kid.."
That's my opinion on it anyway.
If you don't want to have a baby and are not ready to have one then don't do it! Simple as that and those idiots running around saying oh no I dids it! well then they think abortion is a solution. Having an abortion can just as emotionally disturb you as your view of giving up to adoption. Many women regret their abortions, start double thinking of what their child could have become. It's sad that everyone thinks there is a solution to everything. And do you know how rare the case is when a mother is going to die during labor? If you think abortion should only be for that than be it, everything else it's the person's fault not the childs. Even in rape, you are the victim not the child and the child should be allowed to live. And all those drop outs out there that have to drop out to raise a child you can't blame the child, its the person. They're are the ones that screwed up there lives for getting into a relationship like that in the first place. And those irresponsible women should learn a lesson or two for being stupid... maybe it'll straighten them up. And also remember, them having a an abortion can screw them up as well... their really is no way out of having a child. You don't want it, don't have sex. Simple as that. And you amaze me... what is the point of abortion? An unwanted kid... and yet you say adoption is a form of an unwanted kid. And it is, but for the better reasons and not the bad.
True, though she does pose a strong point about adoption. And a reply to the earlier post: I'm not saying something like maybe a wonky foot or something, I'm saying like wonk'd up heart or lungs or bloodstream or uberserious wonkage of brain or something that would prevent the child from living past like 2 anyways. Something SERIOUS. Peoples' lives are risked in abortions? I didn't know that... All the more reason I should feel against it, I suppose.
If it was illegal, then people wouldn't be 'sleeping' around so much because they won't have that to fall back on. And if they do anyways and are cursed with childraising, heck they've learned their lesson and will tell their friends it's not worth it so that they stop, and in general the whole USA's unmarrage sex should decrease.
Bev... that case would be listed under extraordinary or exotic. Do you know how often that happens? And there is no medical case out there in which an abortion is needed.
I know. But if that was the case, I'd say abortion would be OKAY if the parents weren't willing to go through all the operations, then it would be an option ONLY in that sort of case. AN OPTION. OPTIONAL. PURELY. Mostly, I'm saying I'm pretty much against it. Though one of my friends had one and I don't know what to make of that.
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