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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:19 pm
Okay, so I decided to make this topic just so that we don't get other conversations that are not related to the other topics posted here. I don't know if this'll be successful, but... 'kay
AND you can talk about anything else that is related to classical music or the piano. smile
Okay I'll start off.
Why do you think Ravel makes Bolero so monotonous?
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:24 pm
Bolero is all about buildup of sound, as the whole thing is supposed to be a huge, gradual crescendo. I always thought it's more like a orchestral warm up piece. XDDDD
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:43 am
Hmm, I don't know. My conductor said you should never see a Rimsy-Korsakov opera because they're so dull, everything is in four bar phrases.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:37 am
M... i've never heard of a 4 bar phrase O.o
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:13 am
[Asian Trix] M... i've never heard of a 4 bar phrase O.o Try Dvorák, you'll get tired of them.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:06 pm
But.. i love dvorak. D:
err... kinda. does the "American" .. quartet have a 4 bar phrase?
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:07 pm
What do ya'll think of the L'Isle Joyeuse, by Claude Debussy? I absolutely love that piece.
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:07 pm
Four bar phrase.... erm... You call bars measures, right? Well it's a phrase (I'm assuming you know what a phrase is, it's the bit under the phrase markXD) that is four bars, that ends with a minim or longer note. Like in classical music or actually most music before Romantic. Very regular, and not amazingly interesting if it's repetitive.
I don't think I know that piece...
I'm listening to some of Haydn's string quartets, they're really nice. I'm getting quite attached to him.
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:53 pm
Yay for Haydn! I love his string quartets too.
I didn't like L'Isle Joyeuse at first, but upon repeated listenings, I've grown to like it a bit more. I still haven't warmed up completely to it yet, for some reason, but it's been a while since I've heard it.
Four bar phrases are very common, especially in Classical music (well, not Haydn).
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:28 pm
OOOH i get it. isn't it in bach's WTC also? if so, then i know what it is >w<
I just like saying it L'isle Joyeuse
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:36 pm
Haha, my friend showed me this today: http://youtube.com/watch?v=93JiXloIhn4Very amusing, although you might have seen it before... Yes, Bach uses four bar phrasing lots, it's only really as you move into the Romantic period that it becomes less common.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:12 pm
Lol. yeah, i saw that before, you should see the other one too! biggrin I heard he uses 5 bar sometimes too right?
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:48 pm
Igudesman and Joo are wonderful. I think I showed that one to Septomor once too...and another friend on another guild. I got him addicted. XD
Haydn is the surprising one--I remember working on his Sonata in C major, Hob. 16/50...and there were loads of irregular length phrases in there. The first phrase alone was 6 bars long. I think there was another one that's like around 10 bars--don't remember now, I'll have to look it up if you want details.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:21 pm
Igud... whaa??
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i have a theory test saturday, and i don't know how to distinguish harmonic, natural, melodic scales and plagal, authentic and half chords. D:
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Le Aristocrat Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:41 am
[Asian Trix] Igud... whaa?? neutral i have a theory test saturday, and i don't know how to distinguish harmonic, natural, melodic scales and plagal, authentic and half chords. D: You seem to have different chord terminology to us in Britain...I'm doing my Grade 5, and I have never come across those terms. However, a harmonic minor scale with have a raised 7th on both the ascent and descent, whereas a melodic minor scale will have a raised 6th and 7th on the ascent and will be played without raising notes on the descent. "Natural" are never used in theory tests over here, but they're played exactly as the key signature dictates. A minor has no sharps in the key signature, hence the natural scale will not be played with any sharps. A minor melodic: A, B, C, D, E, F#, G#, A, G, F, E, D, C, B, A. A minor harmonic: A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, A, G#, F, E, D, C, B, A. A minor natural: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, A, G, F, E, D, C, B, A. I think that's it.
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