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Lady Visara

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:03 am


Basically I've noticed there are times when certain people can do certain things that are beyond the explination of science and chemestry. For instance Adrenaline will allow a person, to extend thier ody beyond it's normal limits, that is science, that is proven fact, that is almost entirely accepted.

However i have noticed over time through observation of myself that there are times when I just feel different, and I've related these feeling to how I think. Now I'm not talkign about breaking up with a boy friend and feeling sad and angry, and wanting to hurt someone. It's not an emotion or anything like that.

The best example I can think up is there are times when I have no confidence in my self or others. And then possibly the next day, even though nothing has changed, and I may still be in the same horrible mood and still depressed like I was yesterday, but I'll have confidence in bloody everything.

And that influences the way I think, for instance when I have a good deal of confidence, Ihave a far looser moral system, and I don't seem to care about stuff as much, except what is on my personal agenda. On the other hand, when I don't have confidence, I'm nearly the exact opposite, I put others aheadof myself, I care little about my personal agenda, and force my self to work more on classes, and I have a far stricter moral sence.

Also I've nticed that with certain feelings, like that, because it isn't just confidence, that is a small factor, but just the easyest to express through text. I've noticed that baced on certain non emotional or non- physical things is the best word I can come up with, with those, I have a certain affinity to certain talents.

For instence, I generally have little confidence, and am somewhat depressed, and I have more talent toward scrying. however I've noticed that when I'm paticularly confdent, or angry, I have a certain degree of talent towards telekinesis. NOw by no means am I saying, I could lift an entire dinner set of crystal but I have been able to close a door. And while that isn't impressive, it is interesting, isn't it?

NOw I have for a long time believed I have had a multiple personality, but not in the sence of MPD, just somethign else there that can interact with and is aware of the other. I've at time noted up to four differing personalities. And each being different in it's own way, but all of them me.

Now what I am now, is the me where I can scry, and heavily recieve visions. and this is what I am mostly in.

But this leads me to my point, I believe the soul, or the mind, limits and influences what we can and can not do. NOw say for instance if some event caused your psyche to fragment this in my belief would cause each peice of your now fragmented psyche to adapt a different personality, and possibly abilities.

Think of your psyche and soul as one object. And that one object is a mirror. now you can throw a tennis ball almost as hard as you want at a mirror, and it won't break. However if you throw a good sized rock, say the size of two fingers, that mirror will break. Now the throwing of objects is a comparison to events in life.

say I hang a mirror by it's two top corners in midair right, now if I throw a marshmelllow at it, chances are the mirror won't break, say the marshmellow is the equivelent of a days worth of insults. say a tennis ball thrown underhand at an average speed is having an old friend die, one that you lost touch with.

The tennis ball in this case would probably weaken the mirror, maybe put a fe cracks in it, bt not break it. What then would you say a rock, about the size of a hand being throw overhand as hard as you can be? would it be losing, both your parents, thats probably three or four tennis balls in a row, possibly breaking the mirror, but defineitely damaging it.

NOw I use a mirror because if you look in a perfect un damaged mirror you should only see one of you, however if you look at a miror with a large crack in it, you willl see an overlap of parts of you, where your perfect reflection should be. But if you look at the shattered pieces of a mirror on the ground you see as many you's as there are pieces of the mirror.

That is exactly how I therorize he human psyche and soul work, if something happens to cause it to break, than what happens to someone like us, that can do things, does each peice copy what the largest can do? possibly, or maybe not.

I also believe that say your "mirror" does break, that the largest peices will have control proportionate directly relating to the percentage of the original the piece is. Say yours breaks into four pieces, one at 45%, one at 15%, one at 10% and the last at 30%. each would have control of the body directly related to how big the piece is.

However more likely the pieces will be far smaller and have less differences in them. morelikey if your "mirror" breaks there will be thousands of pieces, all very small but most ver close ot the original. Or more likely very close to the largest piece, which with most chances wont be an exact replica of what the shape of the original "mirror" was.

Now it isn't only size that thepieces look at, it would also be the shape, say you have a circular mirror, about a meter in diameter. If you break that mirror, what are the chances you will get a circular piece out of that, you might get something close to a circle, but you wont get a smaller version of the mirror you broke, ever.

Now say you are a good person, you are law abideing, you are a good worker, a nice generous person. Everything that people consider to be good. Now say your mirror is rectangular, two meters high by half a meter wide. Say that breaks the largest peice of that mirror, is closer to a triangle. about 1/5 square meters in area. About a fifth of the original mirror.

That new controlling piece is nice, charismatic, but doesn't obey the law, and is rude and a bit chaotic. but say there is a smaller piece controlling about 1/25 of the original mirror, still fairly large considerring there are thousands of shards no bigger than a square cnetimeter in area.

that piece that is 1/25 the original size, is the exact proprtions of he original whole mirror, by some miracle or influence of chaos, you end up with a smallish piece exactly like you were before what ever caused your "mirror" to break. When that peice took control, you would be the person you were before whatever happened.

NOw all of this pales in comparison if you adopt a piece of your broken mirror as your new complete mirror, now this may or may not be a concious decision. if that happens than you act in that way as though it were your original self, if that makes sence.

This also states that the smaller a piece that is adopted as a complete "mirror" the more unstable it will be, and more likely to break. While that is exactly the opposite of a real mirror. this is metaphorical.

The smaller a piece of someone you are working with the more fragile the person will be.


NOw taking all of his into consideration, this could effect everything, auras, personality, mental stability, hyper natural abilities, hell I think that if the break were severe enough, it could effect memory, tastes, metabolism, even physical signs, such as hair color. NOw this goes back to a scientific pinciple, that everything takes energy but energy is niether created or destroyed.

However that is not an all encompassing law. We know Nuclear Fission releases high amounts of energy. Think of the break in that matter, to force such changes the more extreme the break the more energy released and the more drastic changes can be observed, or possibly caused by the release of that energy, it could take a phisical effect and cause a simplt mutation in the DNA, which would eliminate then need for the energy of the "mirror" breaking, that would then be a scientific mutation cause through chaos. And because it becomes an actual part of your DNA, it's energy sources would come from natural things.

Now we know that through math that if you know the exact shape of the projectile, exactly how it hit, and the speed at which ithit, based on the results of the pieces, you can tell exactly how everything was right beofre the impact. However, this isn't something phisical therefore it's laws are different, and force changes out side of what science considers real. Science would in all probibility if this was able to be viewed, lable it under something that dfied the set laws of phisics.

Now if you've taken the time to read this I apolagise for thelenght, however I do feel that this lenght was nescisarty to fully explain all points covered.

Now a certain member has pointed out soething I had overlooked. The repair of such a break. While I believe it would be far more likely to have a person who underwent such a break to simply replace the old mirror with a shard of it, and treat that as the whole.

However it would not be impossible, just extremely difficult to return it to it's perfect original state, more likely it would be as close a representation as the person could muster. It would probably be a major piece, with some shards left over controlling a very small portion of time but being drasticly different.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:34 pm


wow, if this was a turm paper , i'd give you an A, Well i like the way you think and i kinda se were you were going with all of it

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Lady Visara

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:42 pm


Well there certainly is room tto expand, and I would have done so, except, I wrote this at around three in the morning, I think. It was early in the morning.

did you understand the reasoning I have behind the Mirror analogy? I hope it makes sence to atleast somone outside of my self.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:32 pm


It was fairly interesting and a very good read. I like your theory. And dont worry, it was easy to understand.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:36 am


Yes, it was very interesting...however..I´m thinking...if it´s real, then almost everyone would be broken into pieces...because almost every has had some sort of deeper troubles.
And also, it would be unfair that you would have to stay that way. Although, you can fix a mirror, so you could fix the soul to be whole again, right?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:56 pm


Well I suppose that through an event of large positive effect could possibly repair the miror. BUt to have something like this to have it break would be very tragic. MOst of us yes have damage, or a crack in the mirror. Something that would distort the image, and cause either a personality, a way of thinking, perhaps even a hypernatural effect.

But that would also depend on how you look at the mirror, if you didn't see our image with the flaw cause dby the crack, it wouldn't effect you, however, if you did see your self witht the flaw it would effect you.

But you are right, in the same way the mirror can be broken through the inverse it could be repaired. however the scal ewhich would cause most normal people to have this form of a break, they would more likely just take a single piece and treat that as the whole, not to say however that you can't repair it.

Lady Visara


Siliphia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:41 am


That was amazing.
It all makes perfect sense and would explain how many people have very slight, barely noticeable "alter egos" and "split personalities."
It also expalins how many people change personality wise over time.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:44 pm


right. one thing I hope to accomplish is to figure out exactly what the energy is. As of now I don't know what it is because to observe the break I'd have to be very lucky or an international war criminal.

I don't rely on luck and under the current international laws, the things required to replicate and observe the results of this, are very illigal. Not to mention horrific. Isolating a single person, manipulating and brainwashing them, simply to prove a theory, It's something I do not support, and can not do.

I would have to find a way, aside from those, and my mind isn't working so well right now, so I cant.

ANy suggestions anyone?

Lady Visara


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:59 am


It´s hard for me to imagine that a person has a weaker and stronger personalites, caused by shattering of the mirror.
I see the soul as whole, a mass flowing like the water, one with the Universe.
To me, the soul has many aspects, therefore people have different personalities, and it shifts and changes just like water flowing through different places, eg. during moods, lunar phases etc.
It corresponds to the Universal rhytm of life, and can take similar appearance to some things it meets, depending on how much flexible or timid it is.
And the water itself, may represent the type of soul, the mix.
For example, when a water flows through a muddy bank, although you don´t see the mud in it, if you took it into your hand, it would be tainted by the mud in that place, while in another turn it would be crystal clear.

I know this isn´t written as clearly as yours is, I´m writing this in hurry, but probably will update it. I can´t exactly express my exact feelings, so this post doesn´t entirely convey what I wanted to write. Urhg. sweatdrop
Well, as everyone sees the world differently, I don´t believe in some parts of the mirror theory, but the rest I think is pretty good.
Good luck!

Oh, and maybe I have a suggestion- try reflecting upon your life, and comparing what happened to you with your theory, see if it fits.
Like, if there was some traumatic or stressful incident, after which one of your multiple personalities appeared? I hope this might help you.

P.S. I´ll probably change my opinion over time, your post got me thinking again on the topic of what is soul? blaugh
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:26 pm


You provided jusst what I was lookign for a differing opiinion to what I put up. The two theories are very different. One provides a solid take on the mirror, one which can be broken and reforged. And one which is fluid, canging, impossible to break, yet prone to change.

I do like the theory you provided, it si a vasty different view on how the soul 'is'. of cource, to define how something is we must know what it is. We could also both be right, just our perspective is flawed. I like to refer to a comic I saw, it go on about how everyone knows grass is green, but what if your green was my red?

say we both percievethings in differing way, than we could both be right to our perspective. This is again even assuming the soul is a uniform thing like an arm. An arm has specific parts that every arm from the same species has. The human arm aside from the hand I believe the arm has three bones. Every human arm, save the hand, will have those same bones.

Assume the soul isn't uniform, than we could both be looking only at our own. If thats the case it ina sence removes both of our theories from use, as they reflect us.

But I'm going off on a tangent, that is hurtingmy brain for now, I'm a bit tired.

i can pinpoint one aspect of 'me' that according to my theroy, is the biggest 'piece' that piece feels gilty over leaving an old friend sixyears ago, and I've feared, ever since then that I've caused some horrible life for her by not saying goodbye. that guilt has put me into many depressions.

A second thing that happened more rescently, I had a relation ship that ended very poorly, and that is one of the examples I used. The brek in the relation ship put me into a horrible three month depression, with one near sucsessful suiside atempt. Thing is if he ever came back, I'd go right back to him. again off topic. Sorry.


ANyway sorry for the length, I find things worth discussing like this are worth discussing in detail, I would like to hear a deper explination of yours.

Lady Visara


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:29 pm


Wonderful! I´m glad I provided you with what you were looking for. blaugh

I absolutely agree that everyone could be right, and it´s all really a point of perspective. I myself am still discovering, so my opinion about soul can change over time.

You expressed it very well, what I think about soul. All I can think of what to add to it, is, that I view everything as one grand picture, like made up of energy and feeelings, which fits in its place in harmony, and is shaped out of some same source, but which is different depending on the thing.

Something like energy, and I think it indeed can be energy.
I feel it, more than think, so it´s hard to write it.

Now the soul is changed through experiences, so it´s light may be brighter or duller, depending on vitality, the colour expressing what kind it is, similarly like auras, and it can grow stronger or weaker throughout the life, all depending on the life.

Children are said to have the strongest souls, and are very creative, and the reason in my opinion is, because they are still fully themselves, unafraid of the world, their values and virtues not "spoilt" by seeing how many adults act, and their sincere belief in harmony of the world, even though they may not consciously be aware of it.

Thus, this also explains why many teenagers change so drastically during their teens, why many adults lose their strong will to truly fight and go on, their wondeful imagination, belief in the supernatural, miracles...
Their dreams get ripped away when they see how cruel the world is, or that when they don´t meet any magical creatures they stop believing or because of peer pressure...

Yet still we meet lots of adults who have retained their youth, vitality, creativity...they are the ones who still believe in what they believed when they were small, they are still playful, open, imaginative..

So in my theory, the soul changes over time, but does not break up into pieces, but changes because of the experiences.
It maybe could break during astral or other supernatural adventures, but if it did, then the person would feel something is missing in him or her, but could get it back, I think. There are soul retreivals in shamanism, for example, to retrieve souls or parts which were lost in traumatic experiences.

But, I don´t think it´s true that only children have most creative and strong souls, although this is written commonly everywhere, because it depends whether the person was able to retain their personality or not.
And if not, they always can regain it back, the vitality and imagination, just like in the movies when adults believe again, and feel again the true wonders of the world.

For example, the bad friend which turned out to be just a person who was using me, made me think that everyone in the world is evil and just wants best for themselves, and how he treated me hurt me a lot, made me lose lot of my vitality and energy to live.

But now, when I´m free of his influence, I finally see through his lies, that he was just trying to put a black veil over my eyes, so I would see all world painted in black and cling to him.

Like many children, I almost lost my vision of the world and became a "stereotypical" adult who doesn´t see hidden beauty, doesn´t believe that good wins and in second chances.(um actually that´s over here, in other countries adults are not in so desperate situations, they are more positive).

So now, I´m regaining back my old feelings, and how I see the world, it´s all coming back to me, I just have to let go of all the lies which he told me, and also not let myself think everyone is like him, or can be.

About the two points you wrote...so they are the events which formed/shattered a piece of the mirror, and one of your personas emerged?(like you wrote one has good scrying abilities, the other one telekinesis..).

If yes, then maybe if you contacted the friend, and talked to him/her, you would find out who your friend took it, and say the goodbye or apologise, your personality would merge back in-the shattered piece would forge back into its place.
Even though it was a long time ago, it´s better to try to find out than remain like this for the rest of your life, I think.

And the relationship...try to reflect on it. Why does he matter so much to you? And what has he done for you? Think of who he is, about his traits, what others view him as. Then think of who you are, of what others think you are, of what you have accomplished and want to. Is he really that worthy of you? Why did he leave you? Is a relationship the crucial point of your existence, what you want to accomplish, or do you have some other goals in your life?
Something what truly makes you happy?

Um, sorry if I hurt of offended you by the previous paragraph, and it was probably off topic. I just wanted to help you, especially after I have myself discovered how evil dating guys can be. (although I was viewing him more as a best friend, and we began as best friends. Proved my opinion that dating isn´t cut out for me and I won´t date anyone anymore. I´ve always disliked dating aynway. So I didn´t even view it as dating really. He was manipulting me and then I found out we were rather dating. Soo.. maybe a soulmate if I meet mine, I may maybe begin a relationship. If they exist. But rather not, since relationships often end up with children and I don´t want any. Ever ever ever. And I prefer best friends. Uuummm this probably sounds childish and all, so I´ll cut it off. I just hope my little bit helped you, and not hurt you instead.)

Don´t worry, I like reading long posts. And it isn´t really too long.
(Looking at mine, it actually doesn´t look large at all.)
Sorry!!!! I hope you don´t mind it´s sooo long. sweatdrop

Hope this will help you out. blaugh
Good luck!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:22 pm


the only problem with takign a direct route to contact her is, I've tried. through the military base we lived on. through everynumber I could remember. I even tried to get out there once. Even went through the postalsevice, and failign at all those attempts, I've mopstly givin up.

One thing I thought while reading yours, is the immence irony, that would be there, if you were the one I was seeking. even though out of the six billion people you are only one, and the chances of it are so very slim.

You didn't hurt me, I've said worce things to my self, even subconciously.

As for the resaoning as to why the second reason broke my 'mirror', he really just revealed a lot of truth about me. And is one of the few people whe seemed to care about me in that way.

Well most guys are bad, but not all of us are so bad.


Although back to your theory it makes sence in a way, not as clear as mine was to you, btu the lack of clarity is a fault of mine. Your view is something a bit more intangible, and less likely to be broken, and a different view of how that effects the person. One question I have is what would determine what you lost, and what you kept, to notice the other part missing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:23 am


The other part? You mean how I wrote you could lose somewhere a part of your soul and feel it´s missing?

Well, I´m not sure what would determine it, it depends how you lost it, for example you could lose a part of yourself from some traumatic accident, and the part would be different than a one lost from some soul-sucking astral entity. (allright, that was a weird example)

"Well most guys are bad, but not all of arrow us are so bad. "
May I ask, are you a boy? I thought you´re a girl.
Yes, I don´t through all boys into one sack, I believe they are not all the same.

But I can assure you I´m not the person you seek, as I haven´t been to America yet. blaugh I´m from the Old Continent, Europe.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:48 pm


Well the wording of the example was odd, but the idea was good. so you'd feel it depends on how you lost, it based on what part it effected. You'r elucky to have been ffrom the 'old cntinent' a ya put it. I'd like to live there, but Ihave no meens, and canada's a lot closer.

as for that comment, yes I am a guy. hope that don't freak you out.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:43 am


I wish I could live in America, you have there much more opportunites, or at least more than in the country I´m currently living in.

It doesn´t freak me out that you´re a guy, I just though you were saying you broke up with a boy, plus with the female avatar and title lady I presumed you´d be a girl.
Well, I know a lot of guys including my brother who prefer to use female avatars and characters, so it´s not that surprising.
I just uh, had the feeling that you´re a girl, so the surprise for me was, that my psionic ability gave me such impression. blaugh (has anyone else told you your sig felt "womanly", or how to put it?)
Anyway, how´s the theory going?
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