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Well, I don't know if a debate has been fought in this guild about suicide yet. I wouldn't feel as if it were a proper -wannabe intellectual- guild without this lovely subject lingering around and being argued about (Since no one ever actually debates it, just vents anger about the subject because it usually strikes home hard).

I'm going to give a little of my feelings towards it, and I'll let anyone else chip in as they please and maybe we might get another perspective on the subject that we previously lacked.

My opinions are directed at the 'stereotypical' cases. I acknowledge there's always exceptions to every rule. It all depends on the specific case.

Our biggest fear (Arguably) is the fear of death, yet lots of us consider it cowardly and will happily entitle someone a coward without hesitation for suiciding. I think that's a little ironic.

There's always exceptions though. The majority don't consider it cowardly to suicide in scenarios in which you're already dying and doing it to make it easier on family members and so fourth. I'll happily talk to people about this side of suicide, and others if they like, but my main focus is going to be on people suiciding because of depression.

In my eyes, people that suicide because of depression aren't cowards. I'd label them as being inconsiderate. I believe that they think no one's really looking out for them, and even that the people that tell them not to hurt themselves are just being selfish because they don't want to deal with the pain of seeing someone close in pain. Which some might also consider a little ironic.

It's always sad to see someone in that scenario suicide though. I always think to myself how with the right mentors, they could have directed all the passion they felt towards something positive, opposed to something negative. But, this is also very heartless in a sense, but it's slightly comforting for me to know people are suiciding, because it really reminds me that people still feel something, and we're just not robots doing something we don't really care too much about because we'd never found anything worth while.

I think that we should sympathize with these people. Even though, it's reasonable to say that we're not expected to. The reason why I think it's reasonable to say we're not expected to is because people around the world are never being given the opportunity to live a proper life, and dying way too early, while these people are throwing everything away when someone else dreams of being in a position that they're in. But, that's something that would make the world a better place, if we were to do things that we're not automatically expected to.

Well, that's a short insight into my beliefs. I don't want to sit here and rant. I want to get other people's ideas and talk to them about different concepts and basically broaden my horizons.

So, if anyone has anything to say about the subject and aren't weighed down by the fact that it probably feels like you've said it all before, please chip in and say whatever you like.

I say that it depends on one's outlook. If they want out so badly, then it's probably not such a bad thing for them to do so. The petri dish of this world is half full, and way to crowded already.

If they don't feel like living, and they have nothing to offer to the genetic pool, then by all means...

I don't know whether it's right or not to suicide because of depression or physical maladies. Because you said you think it isn't right, does that in turn mean you think we should (I wouldn't go as far as to say cherish but) appreciate every moment of ones life and just take the good with the bad?

Are there any things that you think we should pressure ourselves on?

And do you have any thoughts on where people should look for comfort when feeling depressed/helpless?

Which is more selfish, someone inflicting the pain of mourning on others by ending their own unbearable pain via suicide, or someone wanting that person to continue living and thus suffering so that they don't have to mourn?

We all die. For some people, life isn't worth living , so why not take a shortcut to the eventual end we shall all face? When someone is suicidal, its because death doesn't look nearly as bad as life. They want to be happy, not to suffer, in ways most people can't even comprehend, just to keep from inconveniencing anyone else.

I can't stand it when people dare to call suicide selfish or weak when they have never been truly suicidal. Simply because wanting to die is so against human nature, they can't even begin to understand what its really like.