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xeidrii

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:34 pm


Whenever I'm on an ED thread, I feel this crazy urge to argue against every single sentence I read. I think it's the main reason I stoped going to that thread. I don't really have the time or sanity to argue with everyone, and I'm trying not to stress myself like I usually do. Usually when I feel like I'm about to start arguing, I chose not to respond to the thread at all. I think it's the reason I avoid popular threads. Too many people.

Maybe I'm like this becaue I doubt everything. I heard somewhere that it's good to doubt, because then you can form your own ideas and reach beyond what you're taught. But at the same time, it's really tedious, stressful, and works my head harder than I work my computer when I pull up 5 internet windows, media player, maplestory, and photoshop at the same time.

So what do you guys think? Prone to doubt and arguement: pros and cons? (plz dont agree with me...im looking for new ideas)


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Also as a side topic...

I don't like to sound smart. =/ Whenever I start spewing intelligent crap I have a sudden urge to scream something really stupid like MARSUPIAL or RADIOACTIVE ZIPPER. ^__^ And I find it really ironic that a lot of people out there are struggling to hide their stupidity or think they're really smart when in reality they're no better than monkeys.

I like monkeys. They hang like laundry.

I wish we could talk about more fun things on an ED forum. Somehow I feel like my mind is divided. I wanna have an intelligent conversation with someone, and yet another half of me just wants to rot in front of a screen and play video games. Or blabber nonsense. Whichever is easier to start.

Do you like monkeys?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:03 am


Its like that saying. Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy? Being right refers to being right in every arguement you come by, being happy refers to letting arguments slide and agreeing with the other even if you don't agree. Its okay to doubt every thing you hear, but if you attack everything you here, no one will like you. Why would someone like you whenever they express an opinion on a subject, you attack it and call them wrong and "no better than monkeys." So I pretty much mentioned the cons, everyone hating you. The pro is that your always right! And don't you want to be right?!
I say no to monkey.

The Formless One


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:55 am


~*~smart people can have fun - anyone can have fun - it's just that no one loves a blabbering fool who tries to shove their opinions on someone ---- oh, and monkeys are cool by the way~*~
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:07 am


I think that it is an interesting idea and that lots of people would want to try it out, BUt what would the topics be? Anything that we have been taught in school that isnt true or an alternative for what we have learned?

7raindrops


Anonotonymous

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:47 pm


i do say random crap when i want to

yay munkeys
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:50 pm


Well, I'm the same. I feel like just sitting there and roleplayting nonesese, but then, I want to discuss somethign smart with my nerdy friends...But you can do both. When me and my friend have an inteligent convo, we like to sneak in silly things just to make it interesting.

EG:

A: Ya but if you have J+26x=p it's the same as p=26x+J just in the other direction.

Y: No because the you would...You know what? If I had a pizza and the cost of it was J plus 2 for every x (topping) then that would mean the answer is J+2x=p, plane and simple!!

A: No, that would make a freakishly expensive pizza!!! xDDD


Y: I didn't ask your comment.. =.=; *Hits you in head with a pizza*

A: ...Thanks....

So you can have fun and talk about a serious subject at the same time.

YourAverageJoke


PirateEire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:36 am


Well, for random comments of doom, there's always chat threads made by EDers like the Baby Eaters Charity or Do You Believe in Mods, or fun guilds to joke around in. If it's off topic, it really has no place in an argument.

ED is swarming with less-than-intelligent individuals. It's natural to want to argue them.

Do it when you want to, and bail out when you want to. Often times I'll be in the middle of a debate when I decide that debating is stressful and I'd rather work on a pretty picture in Photoshop, or get my arse kicked online on Fifa 08 for the PS3, or on rare occasion stop avoiding the fine folks on Final Fantasy XI and level my freaking DRK. So I do.

Simple as that.

You don't need to take yourself too seriously, but I think the following might sound a little odd:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:49 am


everyone likes to be right, and with the ability to simply not read and/or end the argument by logging off whenever you want makes it so much easier. plus you have time to think before posting, so arguing is so much easier by post, so people do it more.

Robiroth


Starlock

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:21 am


I don't find myself prone to arguing as I cruise the forums mostly to generate interesting discussion and expand folks awareness of various perspectives on issues. Prone to being critical and counterpointing, yes. There's a real fine line to doing that without coming across as argumentative all the time. If you do feel argumentative, it relates to somethign Salotus said earlier: do you have this engulfing requirement to be right about everything? Such a tendancy has its strengths and weaknesses, so you just have to ask yourself if the negative traits of being self-righteous are worth it.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:04 pm


I think I could be far more vitriolic if the banstick wasn't looming - too many report happy EDers.

I hate going over the same old ground and just depart for GCD to talk about inanities.

ShrinkWrapped


Doomasaurus Sex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:08 pm


I tend to demonstrate more control when it comes to arguments involving people I am not familiar with. Friends and my love, I tend to argue with more, just because of the level of comfort and understanding of the person I'm debating with.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:37 pm


Doomasaurus Sex
I tend to demonstrate more control when it comes to arguments involving people I am not familiar with. Friends and my love, I tend to argue with more, just because of the level of comfort and understanding of the person I'm debating with.


Well, that's strange; I'm quite the contrary. I feel uncomfortable debating too seriously and too much with someone whom I have established an emotional or romantic relationship with. It just feels destructive too me; debates cause stress, and it may divulge into something bad. I get anxious and nervous, because although it's a debate, it feels like an argument to me, an argument with a special someone, and all the worse, arguing about something that has nothing to do with our relationship. Being social with friends and girlfriends and such is my main priority when I'm around them, and I wish this social atmosphere to be jocund and friendly/lighthearted. However when we are assigned to do so (like in school, or such, or anything else, as a game, rather than something serious and organized), I may feel it as a duty, not a free-mode of expression. It just doesn't feel right if I voluntarily simultaneously debate with my partners.

dawnofthelight


[socrates]

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:01 am


dawnofthelight
Doomasaurus Sex
I tend to demonstrate more control when it comes to arguments involving people I am not familiar with. Friends and my love, I tend to argue with more, just because of the level of comfort and understanding of the person I'm debating with.


Well, that's strange; I'm quite the contrary. I feel uncomfortable debating too seriously and too much with someone whom I have established an emotional or romantic relationship with. It just feels destructive too me; debates cause stress, and it may divulge into something bad. I get anxious and nervous, because although it's a debate, it feels like an argument to me, an argument with a special someone, and all the worse, arguing about something that has nothing to do with our relationship. Being social with friends and girlfriends and such is my main priority when I'm around them, and I wish this social atmosphere to be jocund and friendly/lighthearted. However when we are assigned to do so (like in school, or such, or anything else, as a game, rather than something serious and organized), I may feel it as a duty, not a free-mode of expression. It just doesn't feel right if I voluntarily simultaneously debate with my partners.


Sure, an argument is a disagreement, but not all disagreements are bad. If you think of an argument as a means to an agreement, it might change what you feel just a bit. In fact, if you try not to argue for the sake of being "right" then you might avoid common flaws in argumentation (due to wanting to win so badly) as well as allow yourself to actually teach and learn.
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