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I got this idea from another thread. What would happen if the borg faced the dominion? The dominion can churn out Jem Hadar soldiers pretty fast and I do not see how the borg would assimilate the founders. What do you think?

Interesting thought... Borg I think, they can assimilate the jem hadar, the founder's would be safe from asssimilation, but they're not really warriors are they?

I think it depends not on the founders being assimilated but the Jem'Hadar. They are the grunt forces and so if the Borg have a way to adapt them into the collective without their need for that one substance affecting anything they could probably win. They don't need to assimilate the founders, just destroy the Dominion's brute attack power and all they are is shape shifters so it would be a short time before they are all crushed by the Borg. Really, their worst enemy would be the Borg. Any other threat they could blend in and pretend to be in their culture like they did with the humans or manipulate it like with the Cardassians. I think though, since the Borg do have nano-bots that can help assimilate species that they could have modified nano-bots that could on some scale assimilate a changeling founder and make them a shape shifting borg. In my mind it would be kind of like the T-1000. Only partly organic.

My bet is on the Borg. Resistance is futile.

There's one major factor you have to consider. Ketracel White.
Even if the Borg were capable of assimulating the Jem'Hadar they would have to start producing White to keep them under control as without it they are completely uncontrolable (i.e.- they go psychotic and would turn on their own) and cannot sustain life without it.

I do think the Borg would be the superior in such a battle, assimulating the Jem'Hadar. But, at the same time, I think they would see the futility in sustaining a race that is genetically engineered for drug addiction. I think in the end, rather than assimulate the Jem'Hadar, they would attempt to erradicate the species as unnecessary.

Now, if we're talking Founders, well, there's an interesting scenario. I don't think the Borg would be able to assimulate the Founders because of their shapeshifting nature. But, the Founders would have to be wise in choosing their form to avoid assimilation. If they shifted into their natural state the Borg could still inject nanoprobes into the liquid. As with any biological form. To prevent assimilation the Founders would have to shift into something non-biological, such as a rock. So the prevention of assimilation all depends on how quickly they think.

If you look at this from the Founders side, tho, they would see joining the Borg as advantageous. They would intend to take control of the hive mind. But I also think the Founders are smart enough to realize that wouldn't be possible.

So, in conclusion, I think neither the Borg nor the Dominion would win such a battle. I believe, after assessing the situation they would both wisely back off.

Although, the idea of a Changling Borg is fascinating. I think I'm gonna get stuck on this idea for a while. That's realy cool.

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I think the borg could easily get over the genetic need. Either some sort of self creating application for it or some borg made implant to bypass it.

The founders I don't think could get into the hive mind. They were smart but they didn't seem that smart. They could end up doing some kind of damage but I doubt it would be much.

Its been a bit since I saw DS9 now, but isn't there a way to make them revert out of that? I'm sure that a borg could assimilate someone in the federation who understood how to detect a changeling, so if they tried the rock thing to simply hide out from the borg it might not fly.

I'm still with the borg on this one. The dominion was a good enemy but only to a place with individuals and a society. The borg on the other hand seem like the worst threat for them. You can't blend in, you can't really outnumber them, and you can't really sway the masses without some kind of virus to the system.

Only thing I can think of for dominion being any better than the borg is that after voyager the borg seemed to be hurting. I forget how the dominion turned out at the end of DS9, but they were probably better off than the borg. That isn't a win for the founders though, more a win for pirate captain Janeway.

Well the only way to really affect the borg is the hive mind or to disconnect them and make them individuals, so i'm certain the founders would attempt such things and fail. Not be smart enough to realize they would fail, but maybe think its a risky thing but the only thing they could do against the threat.

If I remember though after that whole changeling thing on earth they pushed for ways to detect them. I'm sure the borg could get past such things on their own too, but somewhere along the line they had to assimilate someone who knows such things.

Even if they don't wish to assimilate the jem'hadar, I think the borg would still attack them and make sure to squish the bug before it got bad. Plus, they might do such just to become the leading power in that area of the galaxy.

Though technically, if the jem'hadar need just the white stuff and not food (I forget this part) if they simply got past the problem of how to supply it, they could probably find them to be a good thing to absorb as they could technically churn them out like the founders did and without the regulator other biologicals would have to have for all the requirements out bodies and aliens need.

If I was the borgs leader too, i'd want to have a way to assimilate the founders as it would be a great tool to the collective. Both as a warrior and to use them as the founders used themselves.