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 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:20 am
Why the hell are the US people tolerating stupid excuses and lies as a reason for war.At least make them tell you the cold hard truth that america cant survive if it doesent wage war.
They say its retaliation.Well the US has poisoned Iraq with enough depleted uranium for it to make the population start an overall decrease.Since the gulf war when they used DU bulets the increase of missformation has incresed by 600%.After this i dont think anyones counting.In iraq they dont ask if its a boy or a girl.They ask if its normal, thats how bad it is.In one particular area there has been so much UD rounds fired that that it has become a toxic hazzard area.
America has bombed more than Iraq could have ever done.With their new generation tanks they can go right into direct fire from RPG missiles and not have any troubles and they still bomb the s**t out of towns.Also lets not forget their new generation armored personel cariers.Every person is safe and it has a remote controled machine gun.It can drive over a mine and take litle to no damage.Still the way before them is bombed clean.
So why isnt this called terrorism.Just because america lost two ******** towers they are going to mutate the nest three generations of iraqi people.The ones that are left after every hut in the country has been bombed down and raided by marines.And this isnt the first time their using toxic materials.
Check up on your vietnam history.Agent orange was used and caused minimal mutations in the people iradiated by it and malformations in their children.
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:10 am
They get away wth that by using the pretext of war. And please make sure you punctuate well and use scentences.
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:36 pm
(let him rant, Wnx, this is the forum for arguing after all- the next argument could even be about whether or not punctuation is okay... O.o
Thanks for lookin out for the guild tho-really! ^^)
And uranium depleted rounds? I forget exactly what those do.
Are they the armor-piercing ones?
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:20 pm
We lost a lot more than "two effing towers" that day. You say that to any one of the families and friends of the people who were killed and I doubt you would be considered kindly. I'm not saying that everything we have done in the past is justified; far from it. I just finished writing a paper on how mass hysteria caused people to lose civil rights. I agree that too many people in America feel that this country is perfect and that we have never done anything that we were not justified in doing, when that is in no way the case. But the fact is that war is not something that's brand new, nor are the effects of it. Different people feel that we need to go into certain wars for different reasons, and some people believe war should not happen at all. I've learned to acknowledge that while I believe other solutions are better, war is entirely inevitable. And just as inevitable as the war itself is the fact that there will be people who will be scarred for years and decades to come, whether emotionally, physically, or even financially. Neither innocents nor soldiers from either side can go through war without expecting some kind of change. Maybe there are people who are suffering from medical conditions and dying, but not all of that is America's fault, just like not all of it is Iraq's fault either. Both sides are suffering casualties, so don't say that just because some Americans are stuck-up brats who probably would blindly support anything out of the president's mouth this entire situation is solely our fault. Because guess what: they did bomb us. They did kill a whole lot of innocent people. And if we had just turned a blind eye, then someone else would have done it again and again until there was nothing left of our country but a bunch of corpses. And then I think we would have the right to complain far more than you do now.
And as for your whole rant on how our equipment is so unfair because nobody on our side ever gets hurt but everyone else still does, OPEN YOUR EYES. War evolves and war changes. I'm sorry that not everyone is going to still be using sticks and clubs. There will always be some people who will use the guns and bombs and missiles and if you think that we will just stay in the dark while we get slaughtered, think again. Not everyone can drive around in a tank and blow things up. That would be a pretty small and well-funded army. Not to mention the fact it would totally negate the point of war if everybody could just hover out of harm's way. On the other hand, it's not like we will go around blindly shooting, either. Believe it or not, we have rules about that kind of thing that have come about because of times like the Vietnam War. Our soldiers are not out there to kill everyone they see. A nuclear bomb could solve that a lot faster, don't you think? Our soldiers are there to stop those who are trying to do harm to others. And they'll make mistakes sometimes, I'll give you that, but the true soldiers who support America are not out there just to kill. Plus, I don't know if you've realized this, but a lot of the guys from Iraq are using - I know it's a shocker! - BOMBS. And GRENADES. And all sorts of WEAPONS OF WAR. Ones that are meant to kill people while putting minimal risk to the people doing the killing. Except for the suicidal bombers, of course, but you really have to wonder if we should be that worried about hurting people who are suicidal anyways. So next time you go and post some type of rant against a certain country or people group with some illiterate, hardly thought out bashes, try considering the fact that they might have suffered a bunch of losses and might have feelings about it, too.
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:53 am
Actualy most of that rant was meant to tell you that ihate how you believe anything that an idiot named bush tells you.He says the iraqis are to blame and you all follow like a ******** penguin parade.I dont care if you wage your god damned wars or not.War ir eternal and unfortunately marthin luther was wrong because peace will never come unless someone conquers the entire world and makes a system that is aceptable for all.So basicaly there isnt ever going to be world peace for long.
And the fact about the bobing.Im more bumed out that your wasting recources with the bombing.
And i never said the damned terrorists are siting there peacefully.While the soldiers are killing them off what i dont like is that those soldiers are lied to while the terrorists at least know they are there to kill for the sake of killing not some political bullshit.
And yes UD bullets are a new generation of AP rounds.
And whats wrong with my punctuation.It doesent burn your eyes does it ?
Dont make me use t3h pink text of d00m.
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:10 am
Bomb it all, destroy everything, kill everyone who resists, then let us help them build it up so we look good in the end! Good plan, it's not like they'll grow up finding America to be the spawn of Satan or something. whee wackobunny Except for the suicidal bombers, of course, but you really have to wonder if we should be that worried about hurting people who are suicidal anyways. Ya, emos are not to be worried about either when they get bullied, let us illegalise all anti-depressants and see what happens Hmm... what can I say about America... seems to be the kind of country that brings a country down to 0% military power, enforcing laws upon it so they can't do bad things ever again. I think it's good that America isn't the only country with nukes though, if they were, they could take over the world by just sending off a big bunch of nukes, while everyone sits in their homes watching America's Funniest Homevideos or something. A fun thought, if everybody had weak weapons, everyone would feel more confident in making war, it would be about physical strength, training, courage... if everybody had super strong weapons, nobody would dare to attack the other. Could just say that it takes alot more courage to head into a melee war than pushing lil red buttons to send off warheads. The world has grown dull, would be far more exciting if there were no warheads or guns... but I suppose war isn't a game. lol
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:24 pm
Peace.
Something that will never be acheived world-wide. Sadly this is jst the way the world is. Conflict is in human nature, just as blood flows through our veins.
Humans always argue and will have opposing veiws (we are even doing it now.)
Another thing about war. Tabloids and countries keep on whining and moaning about war activities. Some of them can be totally genuine. But not all the time. Here is something that nobody ever seems to realise:
War is war! Expect to get shot at! Expect to get bombed! Expect people to get killed!
It doesnt matter if its unjust or cruel. It will happen.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:50 pm
WnX Hokaru Peace. Something that will never be acheived world-wide. Sadly this is jst the way the world is. Conflict is in human nature, just as blood flows through our veins. Humans always argue and will have opposing veiws (we are even doing it now.) Another thing about war. Tabloids and countries keep on whining and moaning about war activities. Some of them can be totally genuine. But not all the time. Here is something that nobody ever seems to realise: War is war! Expect to get shot at! Expect to get bombed! Expect people to get killed!It doesnt matter if its unjust or cruel. It will happen. Another thing about war I mentioned in another thread is that it helps the economy, as there will be things to build up, things to buy like equipment for soldiers etc. many countries as a whole wins on wars, the only loss would probably be emotional, the ones who lost their kids or partners in war or something. Other than that, war is great.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:54 pm
Quitarias Actualy most of that rant was meant to tell you that ihate how you believe anything that an idiot named bush tells you.He says the iraqis are to blame and you all follow like a ******** penguin parade.I dont care if you wage your god damned wars or not.War ir eternal and unfortunately marthin luther was wrong because peace will never come unless someone conquers the entire world and makes a system that is aceptable for all.So basicaly there isnt ever going to be world peace for long. And the fact about the bobing.Im more bumed out that your wasting recources with the bombing. And i never said the damned terrorists are siting there peacefully.While the soldiers are killing them off what i dont like is that those soldiers are lied to while the terrorists at least know they are there to kill for the sake of killing not some political bullshit. And yes UD bullets are a new generation of AP rounds. And whats wrong with my punctuation.It doesent burn your eyes does it ? Dont make me use t3h pink text of d00m. *fears the doom-text* That's why Luther was assassinated, after all. American companies make a lot of money through government contracts during wartime, and that's the truth. As for the terrorists, they are actually lied to, it just depends on with what story- supposedly they think that dying for the cause will bring them countless virgins after death, and incredible glory. War is a racket.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:27 am
Frogsnack Quitarias Actualy most of that rant was meant to tell you that ihate how you believe anything that an idiot named bush tells you.He says the iraqis are to blame and you all follow like a ******** penguin parade.I dont care if you wage your god damned wars or not.War ir eternal and unfortunately marthin luther was wrong because peace will never come unless someone conquers the entire world and makes a system that is aceptable for all.So basicaly there isnt ever going to be world peace for long. And the fact about the bobing.Im more bumed out that your wasting recources with the bombing. And i never said the damned terrorists are siting there peacefully.While the soldiers are killing them off what i dont like is that those soldiers are lied to while the terrorists at least know they are there to kill for the sake of killing not some political bullshit. And yes UD bullets are a new generation of AP rounds. And whats wrong with my punctuation.It doesent burn your eyes does it ? Dont make me use t3h pink text of d00m. *fears the doom-text* That's why Luther was assassinated, after all. American companies make a lot of money through government contracts during wartime, and that's the truth. As for the terrorists, they are actually lied to, it just depends on with what story- supposedly they think that dying for the cause will bring them countless virgins after death, and incredible glory. War is a racket. What a silly religion, wouldn't you think? xd Though they aren't countless of virgins, actually 72 virgins 3nodding if you manage to remember the name of every single one is a different story. I wonder why they attacked America of all places, rather silly. Prolly some conflict in religious thoughts 3nodding suicide bombers... quite clever, blending in with the masses, though I would prefer planting bombs rather than sending off my men to blow themselves up... I just like the concept being so close then so far away to detonate, kinda like backflipping over a tiger, kissing it on the forehead and manage to grab a tree branch in the air. Anyways, the topic goes "Why isn't it terrorism when done by the US" I suppose we'd first have to go into the definition of terrorism which would be something like striking fear into people by violence or violent threats to achieve political or religious goals. I'm not too sure about what's going on from America's side, but I haven't got the impression they're trying to scare people. and if America makes the land uninhabitable I suppose it would be their duty to clean it up afterwards. Shooting down people from inside an almost invincible armored vehicle... well, it's better than taking risks, but shooting down people who got no chance isn't much better acting than from the terrorists' side. Perhaps they should try to capture people instead of shooting them down if they haven't already tried.
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