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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:09 am
I was thinking. A lot of people considered the Gamecube a failure, or a "miss" for Nintendo. But looking back on that era, they were in-demand, and every friend of mine owned one, and the games were decent.
Why is the Gamecube considered a failure? Was it sales related? I always thought of it as a success, but unlike this gen, I never went online for VG news, read gaming magazines, viewed statistics, posted in gaming communites and forums, etc.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:55 am
I don't know. I've wondered that was well. I don't know what their definition of failure is but I don't see Gamecube as such.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:59 am
HistoryWak I don't know. I've wondered that was well. I don't know what their definition of failure is but I don't see Gamecube as such.
I'm hoping someone has a guess. xD
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:21 am
The n00bs obviously haven't heard of the Virtual Boy. So yea, they basically have no idea what they are saying.
The GCN lived up to 5 years just as the X-box did. Plus it was sturdy, not of this PS2 breaking s**t. (Reminds me, I need a new one third one..gah D: ).
It usually some of the Sony fanboys who think the PS2 is all high and mighty. Yea sure, I wonder how many times they replaced their console. My GCN still works even though I dropped on concrete and many times over over again.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:25 am
[Xera] The n00bs obviously haven't heard of the Virtual Boy. So yea, they basically have no idea what they are saying. The GCN lived up to 5 years just as the X-box did. Plus it was sturdy, not of this PS2 breaking s**t. (Reminds me, I need a new one third one..gah D: ).It usually some of the Sony fanboys who think the PS2 is all high and mighty. Yea sure, I wonder how many times they replaced their console. My GCN still works even though I dropped on concrete and many times over over again. Any yet we wonder why 120k of them have been sold. lol
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:28 am
HistoryWak [Xera] The n00bs obviously haven't heard of the Virtual Boy. So yea, they basically have no idea what they are saying. The GCN lived up to 5 years just as the X-box did. Plus it was sturdy, not of this PS2 breaking s**t. (Reminds me, I need a new one third one..gah D: ).It usually some of the Sony fanboys who think the PS2 is all high and mighty. Yea sure, I wonder how many times they replaced their console. My GCN still works even though I dropped on concrete and many times over over again. Any yet we wonder why 120k of them have been sold. lol The PS2 is poorly built. My friend still has his, but his DVD drive doesn't work.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:33 am
I seem to remember Nintendo calling the cube a failure, but I'm not sure of where that was.
Anyways, the console didn't get a whole lot of support outside of Nintendo, so from a marketshare standpoint, it could be considered a failure, but I liked mine when I had it, I just didn't play it often.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:56 am
Ace Paladin I was thinking. A lot of people considered the Gamecube a failure, or a "miss" for Nintendo. But looking back on that era, they were in-demand, and every friend of mine owned one, and the games were decent.
Why is the Gamecube considered a failure? Was it sales related? I always thought of it as a success, but unlike this gen, I never went online for VG news, read gaming magazines, viewed statistics, posted in gaming communites and forums, etc. I think the key question is: "Is Nintendo making consoles?" The Dreamcast is widely accepted as a failure, and the effects were tragic on Sega, dropping them out of the hardware market to a purely software based company. Nintendo may have taken a hit, but they were still a fairly heavy hitter with the Gamecube. It had a lot of good things going for it. The only downsides to it were really the PS2 and Xbox, giving a lot more to choose from, which pulled most of the fan support from fans and some software developers. In addition, I do believer (at least personally) that the Gamecube was a BETTER system in terms of hardware.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:56 pm
It was killed in sales by the Ps2.
It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:38 pm
X-Legends-Never-Die-X It was killed in sales by the Ps2. It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company. Unfortunately it's people like [Xera] who needs a third PS2 what causes sales to sharply increase. In a way having to replace a console for whatever reason including failures, etc increase console sales. I'm surprised none of the companies haven't tried to deliberately cause failures or make consoles last only so long (disposable consoles that aren't made to last a long period of time) so replacements would have to be bought so they can show off their sales stats and in the time frame they would expect consoles to start breaking they start selling a new and improved version of the console.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:42 pm
HistoryWak X-Legends-Never-Die-X It was killed in sales by the Ps2. It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company. Unfortunately it's people like [Xera] who needs a third PS2 what causes sales to sharply increase. In a way having to replace a console for whatever reason increases console sales. I'm surprised none of the companies haven't tried to deliberately cause failures or make consoles last only so long (disposable consoles that aren't made to last a long period of time) so replacements would have to be bought so they can show off their sales stats and in the time frame they would expect consoles to start breaking they start selling a new and improved version of the console. Some part of me doubts that people needing to re-buy the console really boosted the sales that much Wak... That could be the fanboy talking though. Seriously though, the PS2 has sold well over 100 million units, I really doubt that even a fifth of that are re-buys.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:14 pm
Part-Time Viking HistoryWak X-Legends-Never-Die-X It was killed in sales by the Ps2. It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company. Unfortunately it's people like [Xera] who needs a third PS2 what causes sales to sharply increase. In a way having to replace a console for whatever reason increases console sales. I'm surprised none of the companies haven't tried to deliberately cause failures or make consoles last only so long (disposable consoles that aren't made to last a long period of time) so replacements would have to be bought so they can show off their sales stats and in the time frame they would expect consoles to start breaking they start selling a new and improved version of the console. Some part of me doubts that people needing to re-buy the console really boosted the sales that much Wak... That could be the fanboy talking though. Seriously though, the PS2 has sold well over 100 million units, I really doubt that even a fifth of that are re-buys. Why do you think the NES got such high sales? NES also breaks very easily after using upon, upon many games. All consoles break down, just some sooner than others. Companies always count number of buys even though they are maybe re-buys. But they only count new ones, not pre-owned consoles. PS2 did have a CD-error in the beginning, however the PS2 is still a poorly built console.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:31 pm
[Xera] Part-Time Viking HistoryWak X-Legends-Never-Die-X It was killed in sales by the Ps2. It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company. Unfortunately it's people like [Xera] who needs a third PS2 what causes sales to sharply increase. In a way having to replace a console for whatever reason increases console sales. I'm surprised none of the companies haven't tried to deliberately cause failures or make consoles last only so long (disposable consoles that aren't made to last a long period of time) so replacements would have to be bought so they can show off their sales stats and in the time frame they would expect consoles to start breaking they start selling a new and improved version of the console. Some part of me doubts that people needing to re-buy the console really boosted the sales that much Wak... That could be the fanboy talking though. Seriously though, the PS2 has sold well over 100 million units, I really doubt that even a fifth of that are re-buys. Why do you think the NES got such high sales? NES also breaks very easily after using upon, upon many games. All consoles break down, just some sooner than others. Companies always count number of buys even though they are maybe re-buys. But they only count new ones, not pre-owned consoles. PS2 did have a CD-error in the beginning, however the PS2 is still a poorly built console. It don't even have to be just breakages that cause re-buys. Something being new and improved is very tempting to people. Especially if the price is right. If I'm not mistaking, weren't there remakes of the NES? The NES2 actually.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:44 pm
HistoryWak [Xera] Part-Time Viking HistoryWak X-Legends-Never-Die-X It was killed in sales by the Ps2. It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company. Unfortunately it's people like [Xera] who needs a third PS2 what causes sales to sharply increase. In a way having to replace a console for whatever reason increases console sales. I'm surprised none of the companies haven't tried to deliberately cause failures or make consoles last only so long (disposable consoles that aren't made to last a long period of time) so replacements would have to be bought so they can show off their sales stats and in the time frame they would expect consoles to start breaking they start selling a new and improved version of the console. Some part of me doubts that people needing to re-buy the console really boosted the sales that much Wak... That could be the fanboy talking though. Seriously though, the PS2 has sold well over 100 million units, I really doubt that even a fifth of that are re-buys. Why do you think the NES got such high sales? NES also breaks very easily after using upon, upon many games. All consoles break down, just some sooner than others. Companies always count number of buys even though they are maybe re-buys. But they only count new ones, not pre-owned consoles. PS2 did have a CD-error in the beginning, however the PS2 is still a poorly built console. It don't even have to be just breakages that cause re-buys. Something being new and improved is very tempting to people. Especially if the price is right. If I'm not mistaking, weren't there remakes of the NES? The NES2 actually. There was a re-make of it, but I have the original. It looked more rectangular than a box type of console.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:17 pm
[Xera] HistoryWak [Xera] Part-Time Viking HistoryWak X-Legends-Never-Die-X It was killed in sales by the Ps2. It doesn't matter if it's an excellent console. If it gets massacred in sales--it's a failure for the company. Unfortunately it's people like [Xera] who needs a third PS2 what causes sales to sharply increase. In a way having to replace a console for whatever reason increases console sales. I'm surprised none of the companies haven't tried to deliberately cause failures or make consoles last only so long (disposable consoles that aren't made to last a long period of time) so replacements would have to be bought so they can show off their sales stats and in the time frame they would expect consoles to start breaking they start selling a new and improved version of the console. Some part of me doubts that people needing to re-buy the console really boosted the sales that much Wak... That could be the fanboy talking though. Seriously though, the PS2 has sold well over 100 million units, I really doubt that even a fifth of that are re-buys. Why do you think the NES got such high sales? NES also breaks very easily after using upon, upon many games. All consoles break down, just some sooner than others. Companies always count number of buys even though they are maybe re-buys. But they only count new ones, not pre-owned consoles. PS2 did have a CD-error in the beginning, however the PS2 is still a poorly built console. It don't even have to be just breakages that cause re-buys. Something being new and improved is very tempting to people. Especially if the price is right. If I'm not mistaking, weren't there remakes of the NES? The NES2 actually. There was a re-make of it, but I have the original. It looked more rectangular than a box type of console. The remake was intended to resemble the SNES more. I actually like the look of the original better but the price of the re-make was nicer. mrgreen
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