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Rick _Vegas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:55 pm


Okay, as I see it, Che Guevara was a rabid Stalinist who slaughtered innocents, and used unwarranted violence in an attempt to establish authoritarian "communism," who now stands as a symbol of revolution. Although I used to be drawn towards the images of him, after reading some things a few months ago, I now see otherwise. Here's a list:

1. People executed by che (list pdf)
http://www.cubaarchive.org/downloads/CA08.pdf
2. Fidel's executioner: Humberto Fontova
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19823.
3. The Killing Machine: Vargas Llosa
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535
4. Cuba's current Constitution (1992)
http://www.cubanet.org/ref/dis/const_92_e.htm
5. US-Cuba Embargo
http://www.eagletribune.com/pubiz/local_story_085093837?keyword=secondarystory
6. HRW world report on CUBA
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/cuba12207.htm
7. Note to Johnny Depp About the Real Che Guevara
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/6/4/141010.shtml
8. Biography.com entry for Che Guevara
http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9322774
9. Che Guevara: icon, murderer (From Harvard's Kennedy School of Government)
http://media.www.ksgcitizen.org/media/storage/paper223/news/2005/10/06/OpEd/Che-Guevara.Icon.Murderer-1014117.shtml
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:17 pm


But those are biased sources. I know people who were in Cuba a year after the revolution, and saw Che and Castro going into the hills and building schools which functioned well. Che wasn't the greatest man ever, but let me point one thing out- one of your sources also clearly would say the same things about Che as they would about Lenin and Mao, and probably they hate Marx and Engels as well considering that they've desided being a student is impossible in Cuba, even though they have more doctors per capita then the US, and they would also say Cuba's schools must not function due to Che's evil, but Cuba also has a higher literacy rate then the US, and they've had public schools for half the time we have or less! By the way here's the quote-
(It's from the note to Johnny Depp article)

"1968 was the onset of a totally new age, with a new conception of how people should be: They should not to be governed by authorities from above." Gushed Kai Kracht, West Germany's version of Abbie Hoffman. "We studied the great revolutionaries of our century: Lenin, Mao, Che [apparently none of these governed from above!] we wanted to learn from their success. Our revolution was young, and full of groovy slogans."

My main point is that Che may have killed people in cold blood, but what he helped create is worth it, as far as I'm concerned if 100 dead soldiers creates 2000 intellectual doctors, or even literate kids, it's worth it.

The Leninator!
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Kis-met

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:43 pm


He did what he had to do to accomplish things for the greater good. Sometimes it got ugly, but it was unavoidable. You can only get so much done with hugs and love.
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