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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:56 am
Now, wikipedia might have a liberal bias, but I think most of us will allow that a liberal bias is better than a conservative bias, because at least liberalism promotes everyone having their say. Sick of this, though, the nutjobs on the right decided we need Conservapedia, 'the trustworthy encyclopedia'. If trustworthy means 'incestous beer slurping inbred's', then they were right. On this website, you will find such articles as this: Homosexual Agenda The goals of the homosexual movement include: 1. censoring biblical condemnations of homosexuality 2. establishing affirmative action for homosexuals 3. expand hate crimes legislation to include sexual orientation 4. ending the military's and Boy Scout's restrictions on homosexuality 5. promote homosexuality in schools 6. promote science that legitimizes homosexuality, such as claims of a never-identified gay gene 7. force businesses to accommodate their lifestyle 8. getting more rights in prison Now, we're not debating whether or not homosexuality is genetic or not, but my God, even if it is by choice, what is all this? Fundamentalist crap! I mean, obviously I don't have to point out the glaring errors in the above 'goals'. The article on Homosexuality goes further, with such sub-topics as 'Homosexuality and Drug Use', '...and Murder', '...and Domestic Abuse', '...and Mental Health'. Again, need I explain that most sources on this 'encyclopedia' are biased and right-wing, and that yes, of course a gay relationship between two men studied in inner cities is going to yield results along these lines. Likewise, the knowledge that 'homosexuality is more common in cities' is unshocking, as it might be argued that homosexuality is more accepted in cities than in hick towns. I understand, I have made biased remarks here, but sometimes it is hard not to get riled up about conservatives making 'fair' and 'trustworthy' sites like this. I mean, there are children who ahve no chance to explore themselves because of the right-wing agenda, which is all just fear of change. Sure, politically the right has good ideas now and then, but this is the kind of world we invite when we let homophobia and liberal-phobia run rampant.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:44 am
What the hell?
I just looked up Atheism on this site, and...The entire article is nothing but douchbaggery. I'm sorry, but you don't say "All, or most" unless you have statistics. There is just one hasty generalization after another, and I can't even begin to count the amount of logical fallacies going on.
When I go to a site looking for information, about, lets say, dogs, I don't want to read about someone's opinion on dogs. I just want general information on dogs. If you go to Wikipedia, you get general information, which is okay. You just have to be adament about going back and researching things deeply because Wikipedia is edited so much.
This site you point out, Conservapedia, is not a place to turn to for information at all. All it does it take bits and pieces of real information, and twist it to support opinions that are not fair, and fully biased. So rather than inform you, it is attempting to make you think a certain way even if the assumptions and statements are utter dogcrap.
It is easy to get riled up at first. Then again, why get riled up? If someone is stupid enough to take that site seriously(meaning parroting it word for word as though it is a real source of info), then they are too stupid for me to associate with. I know it sounds mean but, I prefer to surround myself with people who are capable of using the brain they were born with, and capable of having an open mind to things. They don't have to agree with everything, just be willing to listen, and understand difference, and why we do need change every once in a while.
Of course, that is why I left SD. There is too much close-mindedness going on in there for my liking.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:46 am
You've got the problem, though, that much of the world (was going to say America, but I feel this generalisation can be extended fairly) thinks in such ways, whether they admit it or not. If the British governement moved to outlaw homosexuality, it would be a small and elite pressure group they'd stand against, not the masses. For the most part, the masses remain conservative in viewpoints but unpoliticised in action, so vote for whoever's in the news more.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:58 pm
I think we should make up encyclopedias until we cover almost all view points and convert them all into a huge globalpedia, with many different viewpoints on each topic. It would be a large fetid mass of information which many enter, but from which few return the same.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:15 am
snow set afire I think we should make up encyclopedias until we cover almost all view points and convert them all into a huge globalpedia, with many different viewpoints on each topic. It would be a large fetid mass of information which many enter, but from which few return the same. Thing is, though, wikipedia covers most viewpoints. Conservapedia members tried to edit the abortion page with information claiming that an abortion increased risk of Breast Cancer, but their sourses were disproved long ago, whereas the wikipedia sources saying it didn't increase the risks were numerous and recent.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:00 pm
When I first saw Conservapedia a few months ago, I thought it was so stupid that it had to be satire. Now I realize that it is way to extensive for that.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:56 pm
Ignorance is indeed bliss; I was unaware of Conservapedia until I saw this thread. So, I went to take a look, and um, GAH! Scaaaaary. Hopefully, with how biased it is, the only people who will take this seriously are those who are already deep set in their beliefs along those lines. For those who want a relatively painless way to compare how the two sites are different, do what I did. Go to Wikipedia and read its entry on Conservapedia, then go to Conservapedia and look up Wikipedia. While both articles show a bias against the other site, Wiki's is backed by many references, and is done in a factual manner, while Conserv's, still having some references, are highly limited, has many "facts" not referenced, and uses more of a blatant attack slant against Wiki. Seeing this reminds me why the only talk radio I listen to is the local sports channel show, which plays while I'm driving to work.
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:32 am
Some of the sources are more than just limited, Senryu. The sources that 'prove' abortion causes Breast Cancer risks are in fact old and disproved. The entire section should be removed, but when a doctor, an expert in this field, tried to edit it, his account was suspended.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:53 pm
princess lolifoxxx Some of the sources are more than just limited, Senryu. The sources that 'prove' abortion causes Breast Cancer risks are in fact old and disproved. The entire section should be removed, but when a doctor, an expert in this field, tried to edit it, his account was suspended. Well, of course they would suspend him. Look at their site! Do you HONESTLY expect that they're going to let anyone with some iota of knowledge on any of these subjects prove/disprove things on there that they would know about? Of course not.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:09 pm
I just so happened to look up pornography on there, just to see what they would say. Here are a couple of excerpts (None of which are edited in any manner):
Pornography provides the illusion of intimacy, [2] but this is a satanic trap (see sexual addiction.
The Internet is the "crack cocaine" of sexual addiction. [2]
It often leads to the user acting out his fantasy - often on children. [1]
Seriously, WHO WRITES THIS?!
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:24 pm
I'm sure everyone know this, but I'll post it anyway. Discovering Computers 2008 p82 & 84 A wiki is a collaborative Web site that allows users to create, add to, modify, or delete the Web site content via their Web browser, Most wikis are open to modification by the general public. Wikis usually collect recent edits on a Web page so someone can review them for accuracy. The difference between a wiki and a blog is that users cannot modify original posts made by the blogger. Damned boring "Intro to Computer" class. stare On a side note, the fact that wikis are basically blogs that can be edited by anyone, what is the point in using them as a reference? Obviously I could never trust the ever changing Wikiwiki. From what I can gather the Conservpedia is more of an Advocacy Web site using the Wiki trend. "If it's in a 'pedia then it's got to be true."
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