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ryokomayuka

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:26 pm


Or am I miss reading something?

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11 Abraham replied, "I said to myself, 'There is surely no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife.' 12 Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife. 13 And when God had me wander from my father's household, I said to her, 'This is how you can show your love to me: Everywhere we go, say of me, "He is my brother." ' "
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:51 am


I think what was meant here was they they were brothers and sisters of God. If Christians are so against homosexuality, I'm guessing the aren't too thrilled with incest.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:17 pm


I know that later on in the bible God forbids it but Adam and Eve's children would have had to married each other. I'm not sure what laws in Gensis they would have to followed In Deuteronomy and the other law books is when God said it was forbidden to marry your brother or sister.
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:48 am


there is also the possibility of other humans outside teh garden of eden. this is the non-flip-flopping God right. "oh... crap, didn't make enough people for this to work out past one generation. crap!" wait a while "ok now there's enough that I can go back to the orriginal plan.*hands down decree against incest*" dosen't seem likely.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:17 am


No where does it say God created other people. What about when it got down to just Noah and his family I doubt they married there brother and sisters probably cousins.

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Leviticus 18
Unlawful Sexual Relations
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'I am the LORD your God. 3 You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. 4 You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the LORD your God. 5 Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them. I am the LORD.
6 " 'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD.

7 " 'Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

8 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father.

9 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

10 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 " 'Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father's wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's sister; she is your father's close relative.

13 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your mother's sister, because she is your mother's close relative.

14 " 'Do not dishonor your father's brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife; do not have relations with her.

16 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your brother's wife; that would dishonor your brother.

17 " 'Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 " 'Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

19 " 'Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

20 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor's wife and defile yourself with her.

21 " 'Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed [a] to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

24 " 'Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

29 " 'Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people. 30 Keep my requirements and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the LORD your God.' "


God make these laws for a reason and at the time there was enough people for not to do it.
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:16 pm


again please forgive teh Satanic Ignorance but wouldn't a God have been one way or the other on the issue and not waitign arround for enough humans to then pass down anti-incest mandates? otherwise isn't he contradictign His "Devine Law"?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:39 pm


I would say brother and sister in Christ. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the whole "daughter of my father though not of my mother" making it sound as though she was an actual relative. I think it's one of those things that we can never be sure about.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:12 pm


Sarcastic_Angel
I would say brother and sister in Christ. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the whole "daughter of my father though not of my mother" making it sound as though she was an actual relative. I think it's one of those things that we can never be sure about.


abraham and sarah are muchly pre-christ

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:50 pm


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Sarcastic_Angel
I would say brother and sister in Christ. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the whole "daughter of my father though not of my mother" making it sound as though she was an actual relative. I think it's one of those things that we can never be sure about.


abraham and sarah are muchly pre-christ


Very true. I was in church today and they mentioned that till a certain point in history, the people in the bible would have had to marry their brothers and sisters and cousins and other members of their family. There was no one else to marry. So that might explain it.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:22 pm


Sarcastic_Angel
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Sarcastic_Angel
I would say brother and sister in Christ. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the whole "daughter of my father though not of my mother" making it sound as though she was an actual relative. I think it's one of those things that we can never be sure about.


abraham and sarah are muchly pre-christ


Very true. I was in church today and they mentioned that till a certain point in history, the people in the bible would have had to marry their brothers and sisters and cousins and other members of their family. There was no one else to marry. So that might explain it.


yeah except that God said not to be lovin in the family so if they had no one else they shoulda got none at all.

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