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Chupi the Terrible Captain
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 Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:19 pm
The major cause of inactivity has been found. To put it simply, tineda made up about half this guild's membership with alternate accounts and when he unexpectedly got called to Iraq... Poof goes the activity. The point of this discussion is to bring up whether to continue or not with the current RP, or to hit the metaphorical reset button.
Another topic that must be brought up is how exactly we should respond to tineda's actions, and whether or not we should consider re-evaluating our rules on character limits. I do have my own ideas, but would rather see what you guys think before just stating them.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:41 pm
lol
There's been basically no progress in the RP, so resetting or continuing it and killing off the missing people wouldn't be very different. That would depend on the conditions for summoning children and whether summoning new ones would make sense, so that's up to you.
As for the character limits, the problem with not setting them is the amount of available crests. I think either the 1 digidestined per person rule should stay the same, or be raised to 2 at most. If each person could have 2 digidestined there would still be room for 5 people in the worst case scenario. Of course, that only works well on paper. In practice, anyone can have sock puppets to get around that, as we already saw.
Who were all of Tineda's sock puppets, though?
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Chupi the Terrible Captain
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:44 pm
Tre Akari, Sakura Mitarashi, and Ilyena Kamashino. Looking back at it, it doesn't seem quite as bad... But that's still four members, three out of four having digidestined characters.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:59 pm
Well, that was enough to stop allowing more digidestined to be made at some point, so I guess it really was a problem. However, there's just not much to do that can prevent that. Tracking a member's activity is kind of hard in Gaia. And anyone who's half decent at RPing can easily create different personalities to keep us from being able to tell two people are the same.
Maybe what we need to do is go around the problem ourselves and think outisde the box. Even if this is based on the first Digimon series, things that work for a TV show don't necessarily work for an RP with a fleeting cast. The only way the sock puppets can cause trouble is if there's a limit to how many digidestined there can be in total. And the only thing that forces us to have a limit are the crests. We should either change that system somehow or get rid of it. I doubt we'll ever be flooded with members, judging by the guild's history, so we could either create some new crests to increase the number of potential members to a point where someone abusing alts won't be taking someone else's place, or eliminate the crests in favor of a different, less limited system.
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Chupi the Terrible Captain
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:10 pm
Always true. I've also had some ideas in the past... But I'm not so sure they'd work as well here for the main RP if only because they're a little complex. Jazzfox has heard about some of them. If we restart, we could always keep the crest concept but not actually say who is what crest, or even which crest it is that gets found, just who it belongs to.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:23 pm
Well s**t, I did not realize it was my grandfather's birthday today... I WILL be back, but for now... I'll have to leave things to anybody who shows up to talk here.
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Chupi the Terrible Captain
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:58 am
Eeeesh, I'm not one great for decisions like this o_o
But I'm still trying to get my head round Tineda's lil trick >_>;
So, let's see, we have the three of us at least... I do like Poison's idea, we don't necessarily HAVE to have the kids all appear and snatch crests out of the air o_O
Heck, we haven't even completed File Island, and we're all talking about them, shouldn't we just establish our digidestined kids, and then see what we have before we appoint them a system for Ultimate digivolution?
The only crest at the moment matter-some to me is a made up one, that's gonna end up a plot-point or so...
Everything was about to go ape-pooped where I had planned, so, I guess I can reveal the plot point in one humongous post, and then our group regroups, we bring in all the new kids? >_> ::Shrug::
Not the first time we've drafted new digidestined in mid-way
Maybe instead of digidestined who're assigned the crests, they're all just potentials, since the kids had to find the crests themselves originally anywhoo?
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:41 pm
First off, I would like to apologize to everyone for the trouble I had caused with the alternate characters, aka, sock puppets.
I'm sure you all know how much fun it is to be someone else, outside of the boundaries of what you're limited to in the "real world"...and while I'm not condoning my behavior, or trying to make excuses, I'm sure we can all agree that it could be an intoxicating thing.
Unfortunately, I just got carried away. I saw, at a few points, that the story here in DE was starting to lag, so I created my alts to pad the roster and continue it on. If I had had any idea I'd be called to Iraq, I would never have done such a stupid thing, when so many others are counting on these "people" to show up and post something...
So to one and all, I profusely and sincerely apologize.
I agree with Jazz and Poison: why bother with Crests? While this RP was based on the 1st series, the 2nd didn't really use the Crests per se, and the 3rd/4th haven't bothered even mentioning them. I say, if I get a say of course, that we just forego it entirely and let our digimon "level up" and evolve without them.
But just as an aside...I was pretty good, wasn't I? xp
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:43 pm
Well, you were good at it Tineda, but that's still pretty damn messed up even if it was for a good reason...nothing against ya though anyways. But yeah anyways, the crests if I remember, were explained as just being a reinforcement to make the kids think that they had the power to do something....so, I have no issues forgoing the crests and going with a more RPG-esque approach to the higher stages of Digivolution.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:00 pm
What I'm wondering, though, is if it's a good idea to continue this one. Not much has happened, but it's still 10 chapters in. If we expect people to join, they might get discouraged if they think it's really far into the story and they'd be joining late.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:15 pm
Well, I know I don't speak for the majority of people on Gaia, but in my experience, if you want to RP, you'll find a way to do so.
When I first joined, I saw that the story was 5 or 6 chapters in. That didn't bother me a single bit. Instead of a "Where do I fit in?" attitude, I thought instead "How can I advance the story?"
I actually REALLY liked reading the previous works without me in it, because I just love seeing the Digimon franchise and others who feel the same way as me.
Reading through, I got a feel for what kind of character was needed to fill a role, and I tailored it that way. So I guess what I'm saying is that if you're looking for quality members with quality posts, then you won't need to worry about how far in you are...They'll find their niche and do their best to make it work.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:05 pm
Really, I think Poison is onto something. I've given it a bit more thought, and it does make sense. We also have more to work with now, with ideas and characters. I think starting over would actually be wise. We could even bring in those Progeny agents earlier and be a bit more organized, less chaos is good... But here's a question for you all... What WOULD you think of dual lines of evolution? By that, I mean the digidestined digimon evolving down two separate routes based on their motives for evolving. (IE, selfish or benevolence for others.)
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Chupi the Terrible Captain
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:24 pm
I was pretty much already doing the dual lines thing anyway, so I'm ok with that in a sense. Arma was evolving into Devidramon but was later going to start evolving into Witchmon instead as Daedalus influenced her personality more, which while somewhat weaker, was going to be more calm and focused, making it easier for her to use her own knowledge in battle and Daedalus to command her and use strategy. Of course, it was just gonna be the champion form that had two posibilities, since both digimon can evolve into LadyDevimon. And Witchmon was going to replace Devidramon almost entirely (Devidramon would still have some advantages, but Witchmon was going to fit their style much better).
But if you mean like having two complete lines and having them all the time, it's different. In that case, though, it has its advantages and disadvantages. It'd have the advantage of adding variety, but the disadvantage of leaving less digimon to go around, since repeating too much would be lame. We'd have to give it some thought first.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:57 am
The dual lines, interesting concept....well, how you described it Chupi. But yeah, I would immagine that this would throw things a little more variety, but if we went with something like that, I think we should have the digimon and the human work on how to work on controlling which line to go into after the other is discovered...but, they'd have to try to figure out what the variable is in their partner's personality.
I'll use our friend Vassago for an example...he's obviously got a thirst for forbidden knowledge and that is his main drive for power a trait that will ultimately make him digivolve into Wisemon. But, he's also got the potential to commit acts of generosity and protect those who are weaker then him a trait that if he followed more would probably make him digivolve into Mystimon. But, if he decided to work on both sides, he'd probably be able to control which one he turned into.
I hope that made sense.... sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:59 pm
The dual digivolution idea sounds like a good one to me. That allows for more flexibility with the "styles" of battle that the humans and digimon can incorporate...And even though it sounds like a little bit more work, it opens up some good character development with them working on the traits that allow them to differentiate their digivolutions.
To simplify it a bit, think of it more like their "Dark" and "Light" digivolution paths. A selfish Agumon could digivolve into a Tyrannomon or something similar, but once he/she learns that fighting for causes larger than their own stomachs (for example) leads to greater feelings of...completion, I guess I could say, they unlock the Greymon line of digivolution.
The Agumon, and his/her human partner, could still explore the Tyrannomon line and not have it be a detriment to the growth of the Greymon line.
All in all, that's only one large example of how it could work and I'm sure some minor tweaking can be done to further its simplicity, but I'm pretty sure that that is a solid basis for the next RP's system of digivolution.
I'm all for the dual line idea; it sounds like a good one.
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