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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:43 pm
Ok, I'm going to go on a little rant about he people don't exactly understand wrestling psychology, and maybe enlighten some ignorant people on there lack of psychology. Because, I'm starting to get tired of fifty people interfering in a promo they have nothing to do with, and only because they want to look like a bad a**/ rebel.
Feuds: First of all. In a feud, the heel should be in control of the god damn fued. He should be doing all the beat downs, sure the face can retaliate, but is should be less successful. The only time a face should the the genuine revenge is at the climax of the fued. If the face does get revenge before the climax, the heel should do something back, except maybe a little bit more underhanded. If this happens, the climax will mean a lot more. its fine if the face attacks the heel backstage, but it shouldn't be from behind, it should be upfront, and then separated. Give the face something to lose, pride, his job, money, a girl, anything. I know this all sounds like it makes it more fun for the heel, but the face should normally win in the end, unless your...Putting someone over
Putting Someone Over: Alot of people dislike putting the guy who is supposed to be on a roll, over. Say there is a guy who is supposed to be a monster, a psycho or something of the sort. When he comes out for the debut, don't have your character get all in his faces, and try takeing him down, especially if your characters a heel. Have the character get out of the ring when he makes his interest, or if he's a face, have him act kind of nervous. Unless there gimmick wouldn't have them do so. (Like if the characters insane and doesn't know better, or has a history with him.
Badasses:
Eveeeryone wants to be the badass. Im ok with it, I don't like it but im OK with it. What I don't like is that people don't give them social or mental weaknesses. I would say there Mary Sues. The only flaws they do have are the ones that make them look cool. If a heel is so cool, then why don't the fans just cheer him, and if the face is so vicious, then how is he a face. My character, is has a slightly dark persona, BUT, he's a disgusting human being, and paranoid. So please, give your character some UN redeeming quality's. Infact, the funnest person to RP is someone you wouldn't want to meet in real life
The Flow Of A Match: don't do big moves in the very beginning of the match. Start the match up with standard wrestling (Lock up, into a takedown, head scissors out of the take down, kip up, face off) Almost halfway through, start doing little spots. Every match, or atleast hardcore match should have only one big spot, or even no spot at all. If you have a whole bunch of brutal spots, they seem less important because, the one before may have been better and you cant top that. And if I hear, I RP as Jeff Hardy, as an excuse, I'm going to kick a infant.
Promos~!:
Is it just me, or does it seem like everytime someone does a debut promo, or a stable promo, or any god damn promo. Someone always has to come out to put themselves over, and effectively ruin the flow of the promo. I know interrupting promos will improve the "Rebel Gimmick" That everyone seems to have. But it's not exactly needed, It's increasing your characters reputation of being a bad a**, but it'll also make you seem like an a*****e OOC. Only do it, if your setting to debut and you don't have a match, then make sure its an open challenge. To many promos have been ruined because of someone wanting to be a every single segment they could possibly be in. In the words of Lex Luger IM PISSED NOW!
Debuts:
Well...Put the guy over. The debut match is a show case of the wrestlers talent. Not a showcase of the other guys awesomeness, the person making the debut is a new addition to the roster, not a squash match. Put as much personality into the character as possible. Also, try not to do double debuts, someones going to lose someones going to win. But, sometimes someone can be put over by losing, it's hard to do though.
Asking for a title shot:
First of all, its more acceptable for a heel to ask for a title shot, because it makes him seem like he wont work for the shot (But only if you come in knowing its simply for heat purposes, and your not serious about it. The thing that I do hate, is Faces asking for title shots, and they say that the fans are behind it. Now how does it make since, that the heel is asking for a title shot and he's begging and whining when a face does it he's asking for what he deserves.
Age
STOP! I'm not saying that you can't be young. Just if you are young. For christ sakes act young. Your a new guy, so in a match, show off that your a rookie, and you make mistakes. If your RP'ing in a pro circuit, dont be too young. I know, there are some young guys in The E, but there all JOBBERS! Limit your 18-22 year olds to the indys. Also why are they ********! Most guys around that age also are puny, but alot of people make them mounds of muscle. Also alot of times, the younger characters have "Veteran instinct" But I doubt a 20 year old is a seven year veteran.
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:25 pm
Yeah..I put most people over...In the WWEU. I pretty much over sold the Undertaker. That was when WWEU was being re-done. Well i think it was proto gave me some props on the sell. Because other people would just be like. I'm not afraid of you. And they would try to fight them. Now I only get into someones face is when i think they are over rated or something or they don't want to sell right.....
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:47 pm
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:38 pm
I gots one on bad asses now.
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:00 pm
I agree with you when you talk about badasses. It seems like we can,t make the difference between heels and faces now, and everyone has the same persona with no emotional weakness.
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:32 pm
[M]a.r.t.s I agree with you when you talk about badasses. It seems like we can,t make the difference between heels and faces now, and everyone has the same persona with no emotional weakness. The only people able to do that should be people from like. 2005 and before that. People that have earned that respect. I mean like it was said before. Posted by Ruin - You think the Undertaker ripped off Jarel.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:25 am
*Checks who has been on since 2005*
ninja
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:13 am
Freakshow88 *Checks who has been on since 2005* ninja O yeah your right. Also Mq..Thanks for Reminding me.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:53 am
Freakshow88 Ok, I'm going to go on a little rant about he people don't exactly understand wrestling psychology, and maybe enlighten some ignorant people on there lack of psychology. Because, I'm starting to get tired of fifty people interfering in a promo they have nothing to do with, and only because they want to look like a bad a**/ rebel. Feuds: First of all. In a feud, the heel should be in control of the god damn fued. He should be doing all the beat downs, sure the face can retaliate, but is should be less successful. The only time a face should the the genuine revenge is at the climax of the fued. If the face does get revenge before the climax, the heel should do something back, except maybe a little bit more underhanded. If this happens, the climax will mean a lot more. its fine if the face attacks the heel backstage, but it shouldn't be from behind, it should be upfront, and then separated. Give the face something to lose, pride, his job, money, a girl, anything. I know this all sounds like it makes it more fun for the heel, but the face should normally win in the end, unless your...Putting someone over I agree 100%Putting Someone Over: Alot of people dislike putting the guy who is supposed to be on a roll, over. Say there is a guy who is supposed to be a monster, a psycho or something of the sort. When he comes out for the debut, don't have your character get all in his faces, and try takeing him down, especially if your characters a heel. Have the character get out of the ring when he makes his interest, or if he's a face, have him act kind of nervous. Unless there gimmick wouldn't have them do so. (Like if the characters insane and doesn't know better, or has a history with him. As a perfect example, Y2J vs JBL. Remember that JBL carried the feud, choking Y2J with the rope, but Y2J gets the win in the end?Badasses: Eveeeryone wants to be the badass. Im ok with it, I don't like it but im OK with it. What I don't like is that people don't give them social or mental weaknesses. I would say there Mary Sues. The only flaws they do have are the ones that make them look cool. If a heel is so cool, then why don't the fans just cheer him, and if the face is so vicious, then how is he a face. My character, is has a slightly dark persona, BUT, he's a disgusting human being, and paranoid. So please, give your character some UN redeeming quality's. My characters faults is that he's a egomaniac and a complete jerk, so I also agree.The Flow Of A Match: I'll let the master of psychology Explain FRIGGIN PROMOS!: Is it just me, or does it seem like everytime someone does a debut promo, or a stable promo, or any god damn promo. Someone always has to come out to put themselves over, and effectively ruin the flow of the promo. I know interrupting promos will improve the "Rebel Gimmick" That everyone seems to have. But it's not exactly needed, It's increasing your characters reputation of being a bad a**, but it'll also make you seem like an a*****e OOC. Only do it, if your setting to debut and you don't have a match, then make sure its an open challenge. To many promos have been ruined because of someone wanting to be a every single segment they could possibly be in. In the words of Lex Luger IM PISSED NOW! Obviously inspired from when the Speeders instantly tried attacking the GMs for no reason in EEW! As I said there, not every promo needs to end with violence, especially if you're not even feuding with the person.I will add on more later. This definitly applies to Damien who, despite being the Face, never lets a heel control the feud or match. I speak from too much damn experience for that one! razz Goes for a few others too. Mind if I post the complete article in Speed Freak?
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:59 am
Yes you can...
I have the feeling my characters gunna get burned by someone in the near future.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:04 am
Shhh, that's why you're on different shows! ninja xd
A section about when and where not to burn someone might be a little too obvious! But something on where and when to use certain moves could be good! For instance, starting a match with lock-ups, headlocks, chops and not DDTs, Shooting Star Presses and Brainbusters! blaugh
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:05 am
I'll add that on to the flow of the match part.
xd
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:08 am
You have a section on bad-asses....maybe the next one could be Undertaker clones! xd
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:14 am
Heh heh. Maybe thats a bit to specific...But, I'll see if theres enough people who are clones to do a whole section.
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