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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:55 pm


In my experience I found that if I asked any biker what he thought I'd get, then they generally would be more than willing to despence thier brand of advice.
Before I bought my first motorbike, I got plenty of advice, and it generally sifted into 3 catagories.
They all generally have merit, however some of it was just from stupid fan boys.
Of course though, take it with a pinch of salt. Think about how long you want to keep the bike. Your age, weight, height and road experince. (wether you know how to drive cars or not.)

The toughest of the tough bikers always suggested getting something old, cheap, and easy to fix. Thier reasoning was because if you crash, which you will, you'll be able to fix it easily and cheaply getting you back on the road sooner. Older bikes generally tend to be tougher and can take more abuse to the engine and body.

The oldest wisest bikers always suggested getting something with a small motor, thats not going to run away from you, or kick you off the back when you're learning throttle control.

The youngest, dumbest bikers always suggested getting what you want, because once you learn you'll get bored and will want a bigger bike anyway.

What I did was I bought a Honda CD200, a basic delivery bike with a air cooled 200cc twin motor. A very basic motor, and a sturdy reputation. By the secound day I was already riding it to my friends house, and by the time I got back I had my first accident. I tried mounting a sidewalk and opened the throttle, gave it too much juice and the bike lurched forward though my front gate and up the front path, the front of the bike bounced off a pillar on my patio and lodged itself in the corner. I wasn't hurt, just had a bruise and a small cut, but it certainly was a wake up call.
Since parts where readily available, my Dad straightened out the shifter, and I bought new levers and had the bike going again by the end of the week.

I rode that bike for maybe more than two years. After the first year I wanted something bigger, as the young bikers had said. But what they hadn't told me was how good I got on that bike. Instead of just upgrading to a faster bike, I learned to corner better and to ride better in general to keep my speeds up.
So my advice I now despence is. Get something you feel physically comfortable on where your feet touch the ground but you don't feel super cramped. Something that doesn't fighten you, but that commands at least some respect so you don't just think of it as a toy. And something that is cheap and easy to fix.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:57 pm


I can get my permit in a few more months XD and I've been thinking about some bikes...

Maybe for starting I'd get a Suzuki 500-600cc range sport bike, or the Honda CBR600RR, or CBR600F4i, but I'm not all that certain yet. I've been getting suggestions on regular sport bikes around 600cc engine. Whatever has a lighter frame is fine, but I need some advice please!

I practice on a 230cc off roading dirt bike everyday, so I am ready to get that permit biggrin

pikari000


Stay Zero

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:00 pm


pikari000
I can get my permit in a few more months XD and I've been thinking about some bikes...

Maybe for starting I'd get a Suzuki 500-600cc range sport bike, or the Honda CBR600RR, or CBR600F4i, but I'm not all that certain yet. I've been getting suggestions on regular sport bikes around 600cc engine. Whatever has a lighter frame is fine, but I need some advice please!

I practice on a 230cc off roading dirt bike everyday, so I am ready to get that permit biggrin

You've probably heard this a ton already but...

You want a sport bike right? Well that little dirt bike is a great thing to learn on, that's what I learned when I started riding when I was 10, I got my first sport bike a Ninja 500R when I was 12 which is the best beginner sport bike in the world in my opinion (and I'm Suzuki loyal for the record) but anyways....sport bikes...are on a completely different level then that dirt bike. They are completely different to ride then enduro's. And I would not suggest anything over 500 for a first street bike, if you crash that 600...you might as well buy another bike unless you either buy all the sliders you can or just enjoy ******** up fairings. The performance level of 600's is rediculous, they're optimized for race track performance and that only reason I moved up from my CBR600RR to my GSX-R1000 was because I just love Suzuki and superbikes and I needed a bigger bike for longer rides and to compete in certain races at my local track. But I still don't think I even could handle all the performance of a 600. After riding that CBR for 3 years I don't think I even used it's maximum performance once, try as hard as I might.


What I'm trying to say is a 600 is not only a bit big for a first sport bike, but it's expensive to fix if you ******** up and also insurance is a s**t load higher from a 500 to a 600.

Get the 600 if you dare but I would advise against for a first sport bike.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:16 pm


pikari000
I can get my permit in a few more months XD and I've been thinking about some bikes...

Maybe for starting I'd get a Suzuki 500-600cc range sport bike, or the Honda CBR600RR, or CBR600F4i, but I'm not all that certain yet. I've been getting suggestions on regular sport bikes around 600cc engine. Whatever has a lighter frame is fine, but I need some advice please!

I practice on a 230cc off roading dirt bike everyday, so I am ready to get that permit biggrin


Hey Pikari,
Glad that you're getting into bikes. Though I gotta admit that I don't think its a good idea to get a 500-600cc sport bike as a first road bike.
Modern Sport bikes are stupidly fast. I'm not saying you can't ride a 600cc bike. I just believe that you need to train yourself up to a level to be albe to ride a 600cc bike in traffic.
You've got to remember that modern 600cc sport bikes can easily do 200+km/h.
When you start out you don't have the experience to ride that fast, the neural pathways in your brain aren't as well developed, meaning when a car cuts infront of you because he didn't see you, you might not A) know what to do, and B) even if you do, you might not be able to do it fast enough.
If you really want a 600 then get a 600 track bike and learn there, but I'll still recommend getting something cheap and slow for a road bike. At least until you get the hang of how traffic moves and behaves. There are plenty of little tricks you need to learn to truely control a bike, and these tricks come from experience.

I don't know whats available over there, but I'd get something older and slower. Like a 500 or a carbarated 600, they may not look that great but if you really want a bike for its looks then why not get a racy 250 Ninja or a CBR250RR, which are ******** fast for what they are.

If they're available there I'd recommend a Suzuki Bandit 400.
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The first one, the blue one with the fairing is less common. Not many people like the old school fairing look.
Basically its a naked bike, I'd suggest getting pegs and sliders put on, which, when you drop your bike will save most of your bike. You will drop your bike. Everyone does.
I remember one time, I pulled up at MacDonnalds, it was really really windy, trying to put the bike up on its main stand, and it slipped out of my hands. Bugger! Imagine doing that to a brand new Sports bike. Ouch!
It'll be plenty fast for you, when I start working again, I might just get one myself.

I'd say the ultimate 400 is this.
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A Honda RVF400 wich I think is the newer incarnation of the VFR400.
My problem is I'm too tall for that bike, the riding position is too uncomfortable for me. But if you're under 6ft it might just be super perfect.

Super Panda454


jadavis1992

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:40 pm


a cbr600 is a race ready bike they are fast new riders need a like a ninja 250 or a honda shadow or something not 600
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:15 am


Hahah an F4i REALLY NOW?!?!
Take a talk over to www.Twowheelfix.com and ask about a n00b on a 600cc SS bike
blaugh Actually there is a BIG topic in the *beginners end forum*

Now if you don't want to end up in the hospital or have a Trashed bike get something <600cc
Ninja250/500(Cheap and has WAY more power then a 230cc DB)
SV650(V-twin 650 is a little more tame then a Triple but still can kick you on your a**)
Never ridden one but Hyosung is making a 250cc Sportbike with MUCH better styling then the EX250's heart


Trust me I thought the 250 wouldn't be much more then my dirtbike(has around 20-26 BHP)
EX250 has 36HP/26BHP and it is much more then I expected, the twin packs more *Umph* then single

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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:00 am


Hyosung has releaced a 650cc bike here in South Africa. They're going for dirt cheap cus no one knows or trusts the brand xp
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