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| Which arc was the first? |
| Onikakushi-hen |
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62% |
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| Watanagashi-hen/Meakashi-hen (Only difference is POV) |
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[ 1 ] |
| Tatarigoroshi-hen |
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| Taraimawashi-hen |
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| Tsukiotoshi-hen |
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| Yoigoshi-hen (Or the scenario that apparently took place before it instead of Tsumihoroboshi) |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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 Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:57 am
Okay, so all of these scenarios are supposed to be simultaneous in time. However, in the way that Rika experienced them, there has to be some sort of "original" scenario, right? The first one that Rika ever experienced. I can't help but try to imagine what that one might have been. In my own imagination of it, I always pictured some variant of Tatarigoroshi, particularly because Rika considers it to be one of the worst ones (although of course, there are plenty of other reasons there could be for that). Possibly even the Devil's scenario itself. Does anyone else want to list any theories? Come on, I already made a fool of myself! Oh yeah, and for all smart alecks out there, Himatsubushi-hen doesn't count! Particularly because if you look at it logically, she had to already go through one of the situations in order to be able to tell Akasaka what she told him.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:09 pm
Ya I think Onikakushi was one of the first ones Rena experienced. And especially since she did not hint anyhing about the outcome in that arc. So that's why I believe that arc was the first one to happen to Rika chronologically.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:39 am
mistergfreak
Ya I think Onikakushi was one of the first ones Rena experienced. And especially since she did not hint anyhing about the outcome in that arc. So that's why I believe that arc was the first one to happen to Rika chronologically.
By "did not hint," do you mean that she didn't interfere? Because she didn't interfere in Tatarigoroshi-hen either.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:26 pm
Nah...I don't think so...at least in the manga it isn't...cause she does hint about another world in Onikakushi-hen...(I won't say it unless you want me to...) so I don't think that was the first time...also in Kai she says something about having lived over a hundred years. I'm pretty sure 6 arcs are not a hundred years...but I can always be wrong...so I'm not sure.
(This seems a bit like all the alternate endings for evangelion...everybody has a different opinion on what happened.)
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:18 pm
narutoluver411 Nah...I don't think so...at least in the manga it isn't...cause she does hint about another world in Onikakushi-hen...(I won't say it unless you want me to...) so I don't think that was the first time...also in Kai she says something about having lived over a hundred years. I'm pretty sure 6 arcs are not a hundred years...but I can always be wrong...so I'm not sure. (This seems a bit like all the alternate endings for evangelion...everybody has a different opinion on what happened.) I think that these six arcs repeated with incredibly minor differences (if any) for a hundred years' worth of time. Taraimawashi and Tsukiotoshi indicated two of the more different variations of two of the arcs, but if you think about each of the individual decisions that every person makes in life, there is room for infinite different worlds that are, for practical purposes, exactly the same.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:58 pm
That could be true...but still if there is some chance of practically identical worlds then maybe there was another world before Onikakushi-hen took place where the same thing happened, and because of that Rika warned Keiichi (I don't remember what episode of Onikakushi it was...) she told Keiichi "Whatever you do don't lose that bat" (or something along those lines). It could've been a warning because maybe in a previous world he lost the bat and was killed 'cause he was defenseless...
Or I'm just lost from analizing too much and I'm just a step closer to 'You are so wrong' ville =_=.
And maybe in the anime it was her first world but in the manga she has definetly had some experiences with other worlds since she already knew that the world was going to restart itself.
(I should start using FireFox...I heard it had spell checker)
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:47 pm
narutoluver411 That could be true...but still if there is some chance of practically identical worlds then maybe there was another world before Onikakushi-hen took place where the same thing happened, and because of that Rika warned Keiichi (I don't remember what episode of Onikakushi it was...) she told Keiichi "Whatever you do don't lose that bat" (or something along those lines). It could've been a warning because maybe in a previous world he lost the bat and was killed 'cause he was defenseless... Or I'm just lost from analizing too much and I'm just a step closer to 'You are so wrong' ville =_=. And maybe in the anime it was her first world but in the manga she has definetly had some experiences with other worlds since she already knew that the world was going to restart itself. (I should start using FireFox...I heard it had spell checker) Now see, I interpreted that quote as the slightly more obvious (but also less fun to analyze) idea that he shouldn't lose the bat because it's Satoshi's bat, especially given Satoko's reaction. Although that could be taken as further evidence that Onikakushi-hen was the first arc, since if he lost the bat, he wouldn't have ever been able to attack Rena and Mion.
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:05 pm
I did too at first. Since Satoko was on a brink of obssession on keeping Satoshi's stuff the way he left them, and Rika cares for Satoko, I at first thought 'She just wants to tell Keiichi that after he's done with it, to put it back in it's place.'
But then you can think about how Rika is...she tries to help the people from behind the stage, and because half of the things she says are a riddle to most, that could have as easily meant "Keep that bat because you're in danger" as to "When you're done playing baseball, put the bat where you found it."
I don't know if I made any sense xD
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:00 am
Well I guess you do have a point there. Oh well. But I still really think Onikakushi-hen is first in the series since the makers put it first in the Anime and Manga.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:28 pm
To say that Onikakushi-hen is the first of Rika's string of 'endless Junes' would be to suggest that not all the arcs featured in the anime are in order/that her death in one jumps to the next ark featured in the anime, which is what I've always assumed was the case; that we're started on one Hinamizawa, and that one doesn't work so the next arc features the next Hinamizawa, which also doesn't work, so it goes on and on until the conclusion of Kai.
Then again, it's one of those things that's left to viewer interpretation.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:38 pm
Mii...about Rika's hints in the manga, when Watangashi was over, she told Keichii, 'Happiness doesn't last forever.' Then, when Keichii gave her a strange, said, 'And neither does the festival. Nipah~!'. Since things usually fall apart around Watanagashi, that was probably why she said that.
Oh, and in the end when comforting Satoko she told her: 'We'll see Keichii and the others again.', or something like that. Onikakushi was definitley not the first arc.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:54 am
yamato_rena Okay, so all of these scenarios are supposed to be simultaneous in time. However, in the way that Rika experienced them, there has to be some sort of "original" scenario, right? The first one that Rika ever experienced. I can't help but try to imagine what that one might have been. In my own imagination of it, I always pictured some variant of Tatarigoroshi, particularly because Rika considers it to be one of the worst ones (although of course, there are plenty of other reasons there could be for that). Possibly even the Devil's scenario itself. Does anyone else want to list any theories? Come on, I already made a fool of myself! Oh yeah, and for all smart alecks out there, Himatsubushi-hen doesn't count! Particularly because if you look at it logically, she had to already go through one of the situations in order to be able to tell Akasaka what she told him. God i would want to see that. heart I think in Rei it kinda paints a picture, but.... Does anyone know when Rei's last episode is going to be subbed?? scream
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:15 pm
I thought I saw it subbed already. Maybe I was just imagining things.
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