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Imaginary Marionette
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:17 pm


So, I have a new boyfriend. (which is why I haven't been around much. plus I hate home and home is where the computer happens to be.)
We've been dating for a couple of weeks, and the fact that I'm freaky in bed has come up a couple of times. But I refuse to specify what way I'm freaky in. I don't want my kinks to define me; and I'm sick of that being the only way I can get off. Still, even if it's not the only way I can get off, I'm going to want to tell him someday.
When should I? After we've had sex a few times and I've proven to myself I can have normal sex? Or after I get totally bored with the vanilla lifestyle?
I have no idea if he would be willing to indulge my kinks or not; he's never tried BDSM or S&M. I don't think he would know what to do, and I'm not sure he'd be willing to hurt me as intensely as I would enjoy.
So when do I get around to this? How do I get around to this? Enlighten me, you're all much more experienced then I am.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:34 pm


I think you should have a talk with him as soon as possible. If sex is going to be a part of your relationship, it's important for you to both enjoy it and for him to know what you're into in case he can't handle it. He might be willing to try things with you. He could also be nervous in discussing it, just as you are. I would defiantly say as soon as possible to avoid confusion or trouble later on.

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Imaginary Marionette
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:36 pm


But if I tell him now then I won't know what it's like to have normal sex because even if he doesn't conciously let it effect how he acts, it will be in the back of his mind.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:58 pm


Imaginary Marionette
But if I tell him now then I won't know what it's like to have normal sex because even if he doesn't conciously let it effect how he acts, it will be in the back of his mind.

I disagree. For starters he's never played before, you're going to have to teach him in that manner. It also means he won't know what to do. It might even frighten him a little, make him even more tender, I don't know, cause I don't know him.
[[[by the way, congrats, I love teaching fresh new blood]]]
And it is something you'll want to mention soon. You can't just all of a sudden, after having lots of vanilla fun, start introducing your toys. It needs to be a part of the understanding and communication from the start. This is where I think you will be well prepared. That is one thing I have always valued about the community, they are quite good and discussion and conversation on sex, play, and limitations. Also mention just what you told us. You want the chance to have a regular vanilla relationship before you start showing him how good chocolate would taste. You have needs too that lie in Vanilla relations. I really believe most people do.

[[[SIDE NOTE: this just came flashing into my head. So once you're done not playing you should have awsum foody-sex and use chocolate ice cream to indicate how you're done with vanilla. that would just be poeticly fun. . .]]]

Eventually when you both are most sated and ready to move on you can start introducing your other life style one little toy at a time.

If all else fails. . .bring him here .::grins::.
oh and. . .congrats! ^_^

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:05 am


Well, honestly after having normal sex again..I found it quite boring. What you should do is when he brings up that your "freaky in bed" jus take a min to talk to him about it...start off slow and tell him that you don't want it to define you.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:24 pm


I suppose you guys are right. If I'm clear about not wanting to do any of this *now* and not wanting it to define me, it will probably be alright... I'm just scared, you know? I don't want him jumping the gun, and I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it beforehand. And I don't want this to screw up our relationship. Sex complicates things and kinks complicate them even more, as much as I love them...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:34 pm


Imaginary Marionette
I suppose you guys are right. If I'm clear about not wanting to do any of this *now* and not wanting it to define me, it will probably be alright... I'm just scared, you know? I don't want him jumping the gun, and I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it beforehand. And I don't want this to screw up our relationship. Sex complicates things and kinks complicate them even more, as much as I love them...

see Lena honney you said it right there "I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it before hand" you answered you're own question.
And really, most people new to the scene are not going to jump RIGHT into play immediately, it may make them curious, but the most they'll be ready for is gentle restraints, maybe handcuffs in the beginning. You'll be fine[]/u]. Just talk to him about it.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:52 pm


IMJustMe
Imaginary Marionette
I suppose you guys are right. If I'm clear about not wanting to do any of this *now* and not wanting it to define me, it will probably be alright... I'm just scared, you know? I don't want him jumping the gun, and I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it beforehand. And I don't want this to screw up our relationship. Sex complicates things and kinks complicate them even more, as much as I love them...

see Lena honney you said it right there "I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it before hand" you answered you're own question.
And really, most people new to the scene are not going to jump RIGHT into play immediately, it may make them curious, but the most they'll be ready for is gentle restraints, maybe handcuffs in the beginning. You'll be fine. Just talk to him about it.
You're right, you're right. I'm just so nervous. I hate having to talk about things like that. Why can't people just know? Ah. I'll wait till he brings it up again, at least. I'm not bringing it up, I'm too scared. I wouldn't know how.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:13 pm


Imaginary Marionette
IMJustMe
Imaginary Marionette
I suppose you guys are right. If I'm clear about not wanting to do any of this *now* and not wanting it to define me, it will probably be alright... I'm just scared, you know? I don't want him jumping the gun, and I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it beforehand. And I don't want this to screw up our relationship. Sex complicates things and kinks complicate them even more, as much as I love them...

see Lena honney you said it right there "I'm really terrible at setting limits and saying no if we don't talk about it before hand" you answered you're own question.
And really, most people new to the scene are not going to jump RIGHT into play immediately, it may make them curious, but the most they'll be ready for is gentle restraints, maybe handcuffs in the beginning. You'll be fine. Just talk to him about it.
You're right, you're right. I'm just so nervous. I hate having to talk about things like that. Why can't people just know? Ah. I'll wait till he brings it up again, at least. I'm not bringing it up, I'm too scared. I wouldn't know how.

.::pets::. that's plenty fine for now. ::.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:09 pm


Imaginary Marionette
So, I have a new boyfriend. (which is why I haven't been around much. plus I hate home and home is where the computer happens to be.)
We've been dating for a couple of weeks, and the fact that I'm freaky in bed has come up a couple of times. But I refuse to specify what way I'm freaky in. I don't want my kinks to define me; and I'm sick of that being the only way I can get off. Still, even if it's not the only way I can get off, I'm going to want to tell him someday.
When should I? After we've had sex a few times and I've proven to myself I can have normal sex? Or after I get totally bored with the vanilla lifestyle?
I have no idea if he would be willing to indulge my kinks or not; he's never tried BDSM or S&M. I don't think he would know what to do, and I'm not sure he'd be willing to hurt me as intensely as I would enjoy.
So when do I get around to this? How do I get around to this? Enlighten me, you're all much more experienced then I am.


That light blue, small font is seriously irritating.

When should you tell a new boyfriend about your kinks? Never. You should tell a POTENTIAL boyfriend/lover about your kinks.

You are going into a relationship *knowingly* lying by omission. Great start to things. Seriously sit down and imagine a conversation of "Well, I've been trying really hard for the past year, but I have to tell you that our sex life is incredibly boring. I'm a masochist and I have these fetishes and ...." Yea.

I'm going to assume that you're young - late teens or early twenties? Because in another ten or fifteen years, you're going to really realize just how important it is to have corresponding sexual tastes and values. A kinkster and a vanilla don't mix. A monogamous and a poly person don't mix. A straight and a gay person don't mix.

You say you're "sick" of that being the only way you can get off. Well, welcome to the world of kinks and fetishes. By definition, that's what a fetish is - something you *need* in order to get off. You're not going to change that, unless you go in for some really serious, really expensive, really in-depth psycho-therapy. (Even then, I very much doubt you can change your sexual identity, but there are plenty of people willing to take your money and try.)

If you know you're kinky, look for kinky people to date. Much less emotional pain involved for all concerned.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:11 pm


xX Princess Heartbreak Xx
tell him that you don't want it to define you.


Why, exactly, is that bad?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:16 pm


fioce
xX Princess Heartbreak Xx
tell him that you don't want it to define you.


Why, exactly, is that bad?


I've told ppl that im into bdsm and their always asking me if they can slap me or whip me...they think that im jus this "bdsm whore" and im a glutton for punishment

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:52 pm


xX Princess Heartbreak Xx
fioce
xX Princess Heartbreak Xx
tell him that you don't want it to define you.


Why, exactly, is that bad?


I've told ppl that im into bdsm and their always asking me if they can slap me or whip me...they think that im jus this "bdsm whore" and im a glutton for punishment

I can understand not wanting it to define you. It's great when it's people who understand bdsm, but when they don't, they don't get what it's really about.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:58 pm


fioce
Imaginary Marionette
So, I have a new boyfriend. (which is why I haven't been around much. plus I hate home and home is where the computer happens to be.)
We've been dating for a couple of weeks, and the fact that I'm freaky in bed has come up a couple of times. But I refuse to specify what way I'm freaky in. I don't want my kinks to define me; and I'm sick of that being the only way I can get off. Still, even if it's not the only way I can get off, I'm going to want to tell him someday.
When should I? After we've had sex a few times and I've proven to myself I can have normal sex? Or after I get totally bored with the vanilla lifestyle?
I have no idea if he would be willing to indulge my kinks or not; he's never tried BDSM or S&M. I don't think he would know what to do, and I'm not sure he'd be willing to hurt me as intensely as I would enjoy.
So when do I get around to this? How do I get around to this? Enlighten me, you're all much more experienced then I am.


That light blue, small font is seriously irritating.

When should you tell a new boyfriend about your kinks? Never. You should tell a POTENTIAL boyfriend/lover about your kinks.

You are going into a relationship *knowingly* lying by omission. Great start to things. Seriously sit down and imagine a conversation of "Well, I've been trying really hard for the past year, but I have to tell you that our sex life is incredibly boring. I'm a masochist and I have these fetishes and ...." Yea.

I'm going to assume that you're young - late teens or early twenties? Because in another ten or fifteen years, you're going to really realize just how important it is to have corresponding sexual tastes and values. A kinkster and a vanilla don't mix. A monogamous and a poly person don't mix. A straight and a gay person don't mix.

You say you're "sick" of that being the only way you can get off. Well, welcome to the world of kinks and fetishes. By definition, that's what a fetish is - something you *need* in order to get off. You're not going to change that, unless you go in for some really serious, really expensive, really in-depth psycho-therapy. (Even then, I very much doubt you can change your sexual identity, but there are plenty of people willing to take your money and try.)

If you know you're kinky, look for kinky people to date. Much less emotional pain involved for all concerned.
It's not lying by omission. At all. Because I've never denied or pretended I don't have those kinks; I've simply danced around the question.
I seriously hope that in another ten or fifteen years, when I'm 30 or 40 or so, sex won't matter nearly as much as you seem to think it does. I seriously hope it will never matter that much; because that will be a very sad day. I build relationships based on emotions, not sexual preferences. I've always believed that if you love each other enough, you can work around sexual issues. Excuse me if that's young and naive, but I hope I never grow out of that particular belief.
I also believe deep down that I can have vanilla sex and enjoy it. Maybe not everyone can, maybe some people are so deep in their fetishes that they need them to get off. But I don't believe I do, and I just need time to get used to vanilla sex. And then I can have kinky sex and vanilla sex.
I would never, ever, EVER look for a partner based on whether they were kinky or not. That is shallow, in my opinion. I'd much rather look for a partner based on what actually would make me fall for them. I'm sorry if you can only fall for kinky people, but I guess I'm not so wrapped up in my fetishes as you are.

Imaginary Marionette
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Imaginary Marionette
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:03 pm


ToxicPlay
xX Princess Heartbreak Xx
fioce
xX Princess Heartbreak Xx
tell him that you don't want it to define you.


Why, exactly, is that bad?


I've told ppl that im into bdsm and their always asking me if they can slap me or whip me...they think that im jus this "bdsm whore" and im a glutton for punishment

I can understand not wanting it to define you. It's great when it's people who understand bdsm, but when they don't, they don't get what it's really about.
Exactly. And it's kind of tiresome to explain exactly what it's about.

I had a boyfriend once who was pretty much what Princess just described, and it destroyed our relationship. So I really don't want that to define me again.
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