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 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:59 pm
skin against skin blood and bone Yupp.
I, the western rider.
The one who stares at English saddles and blinks stupidly.
The one who says lope and not canter.
Is going to get a jumping lesson.
Well, to be correct, I get the joy of reconditioning myself from brokenness, then learning english, then jumping.
But, uhm.
Yes, I get to jump.
And... I need to know what the heck to expect.. you're all by yourself but you're not alone you wanted in now you're here
driven by hate consumed by fear
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:33 pm
Ah, jumping, good times, good times. Anyways, when you first start out its going to feel like a rush, well i guess depending on how high your jumping under 2 feet is good for starting where you can get the feel for it. Over 3 feet is like woosh! I can fly!!! xD And depending on the horse, you'll get one who rushes towards jumps, so be prepared to be flung forward. One that likes to make you think your going to go over the jump, and stop right infront of it, oh i had one of those. And your nice jumper who knows what to do and will give you a nice first experience jumping. But if it is your first time jumping you may start out with like ground poles or little cross rails. Balance is always a good thing to consider in jumping, well any equine sport. When jumping you want to try to stay with the horse when he jumps, one thing that may happen is the horse jumps and your not following him into the jump and he'll jump you'll stay back, he'll land and you are fung forward, its happend to me many,many times, like if you see pro-jumpers, they follow the horse. Timing is key. It can be really fun once you get the hang of it. Since I don't know if you'll be competing in jumping, don't fret if you don't get the hang of it. Have fun! and hope oyu lesson goes great!!! ^.^
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:29 am
If you've never ridden english before, it's probably best not to start jumping once you hit the saddle.
It is imperative that you feel safe and well balanced in an english saddle before jumping. Not only for your safety, but for your horse's as well.
What to expect:
You'll probably be taught english basics no doubt, learn how to post etc., but while doing so, get used to shorter stirrup lengths and practice a two point at all paces - walk, trot, canter. Neither are very hard, but if you are coming from traditional western riding, all of the english paces will be quite a bit faster (also depending on the horse)and sometimes a little unsettling. (from what I've heard of my western friends) If you feel the need to grab mane while practicing anything/ two point, go ahead. Heck, I'm the weird one who finds it harder to stay in two point at a walk then at a canter. I'd like someone to explain that one to me. gonk
Once you have your balance and two point right, you'll be walking over ground poles. You'll be doing it at all paces. The key is to go from sitting, to two point, to sitting again and still control your horse. Though some trainers you have you complete a mock course all in two point.
After you get used to the ground poles, you start off with little jumps. Most likely just a foot and maybe an inch or two sometimes less or more depending on your trainer. Littler jumps are deemed safer by some people, but you don't get the full motion of the horse trying to jump it, and a lot of old nags just like to hit the breaks right before the jump and calmly walk over. rolleyes
You'll probably be asked to stay in two point for the first few times over so you can get the feeling of the horse going over. You'll learn to read the horse's movements and learn when is the best time to rise from your saddle to two point, to extend your body, move with the horse, and then land with the horse / resume your seat.
There are a few bad habits that people do have when they begin jumping, like Silver Moon Kitsune said, being left behind is one of them, going ahead of your horse, rough landings, scrunching up your upper body and arms when you should be extending yourself to give the horse rein while jumping (I'm guilty of this one) or some other issue, like using your knees instead of your legs to stay on, or throwing your legs behind you.
Just remember, there is no shame in grabbing mane, and always keep your heels well sunk into your stirrups.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:27 pm
skin against skin blood and bone I've ridden in an English saddle before, and I will be learning proper English riding habits before I begin jumping, so do not worry.
I am actually going to get lovely one on one lessons with a trainer.
And I won't be competing.
At all.
I'll be learning for the sake of exercising a friend's horses with him.
I actually talked to my trainer-to-be a bit, and the horse I'm going to be riding is his old show jumper.
I shouldn't say old, he's not old, but he has been used for lessons and is quite experienced with those who don't know much.
He said before we even think about learning in the arena he's going to make me trail ride in an english saddle, to get me used to the different saddle and different way of movement.
I'm so excited. <333
Only problem is, I know how his lessons are, and he's mean.
He gets all drill captain shouting orders and gah.
I'mma wind up throwing a boot at him.
you're all by yourself but you're not alone you wanted in now you're here
driven by hate consumed by fear
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:01 pm
You'll probably just learn 2-point your first few lessons. Progressing up to trotting/canter poles and then to small jumps. 2 point is like sqwatting in the saddle, your butt out of the saddle, calf on (by calf on, I mean constant touching, when you get to jumping, your calf shouldnt move AT ALL), heels down, with a slight bend in the hips, looking up with your shoulders back. It takes a while to get the feel of it, and then to build up your muscle strength in those areas. I found my loin muscles were very effected. Theres a lot to do with feel, and that cant be taught, but ti just comes as you try different expersises and figure out what keeps you in the position you have been told to ride in.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:43 am
Trite - 2-pt is easier at the canter than the walk for me as well. And I can't do more than a few strides of 2-pt at the trot, but that's because of the concussive force on my ankles, they break gonk
But I think it's similar to why vaulting manuevers are easier on a cantering horse than on a barrel. The momentum of the horse's stride makes it easier to maintain the position, it's much more active and you use the horse's motion to support you. Whereas at the walk, you're just sitting there and having to use your own strength to hold yourself up.
But then, I quit jumping for a hatred of 2-pt, so I'm probably not the best authority on the subject xd
(I do understand the importance of 2-pt, but my body isn't structurally designed for it and it's intensely painful for me to maintain. It just made more sense for me to stop jumping and stick to dressage, since that doesn't involve searing, mind-numbing pain shooting through my legs as I feel the tendons in my ankles ripping to shreds. xd )
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:11 am
Trite~Elegy If you've never ridden english before, it's probably best not to start jumping once you hit the saddle.
It is imperative that you feel safe and well balanced in an english saddle before jumping. Not only for your safety, but for your horse's as well.
What to expect:
You'll probably be taught english basics no doubt, learn how to post etc., but while doing so, get used to shorter stirrup lengths and practice a two point at all paces - walk, trot, canter. Neither are very hard, but if you are coming from traditional western riding, all of the english paces will be quite a bit faster (also depending on the horse)and sometimes a little unsettling. (from what I've heard of my western friends) If you feel the need to grab mane while practicing anything/ two point, go ahead. Heck, I'm the weird one who finds it harder to stay in two point at a walk then at a canter. I'd like someone to explain that one to me. gonk
Once you have your balance and two point right, you'll be walking over ground poles. You'll be doing it at all paces. The key is to go from sitting, to two point, to sitting again and still control your horse. Though some trainers you have you complete a mock course all in two point.
After you get used to the ground poles, you start off with little jumps. Most likely just a foot and maybe an inch or two sometimes less or more depending on your trainer. Littler jumps are deemed safer by some people, but you don't get the full motion of the horse trying to jump it, and a lot of old nags just like to hit the breaks right before the jump and calmly walk over. rolleyes
You'll probably be asked to stay in two point for the first few times over so you can get the feeling of the horse going over. You'll learn to read the horse's movements and learn when is the best time to rise from your saddle to two point, to extend your body, move with the horse, and then land with the horse / resume your seat.
There are a few bad habits that people do have when they begin jumping, like Silver Moon Kitsune said, being left behind is one of them, going ahead of your horse, rough landings, scrunching up your upper body and arms when you should be extending yourself to give the horse rein while jumping (I'm guilty of this one) or some other issue, like using your knees instead of your legs to stay on, or throwing your legs behind you.
Just remember, there is no shame in grabbing mane, and always keep your heels well sunk into your stirrups. The reason you might struggle in walk is becasue it takes more balance then at canter. Downard transistions in two point can also be difficult to begin with until you have built up stronger leg muscles.
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