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Septomor

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:53 am


Hopefully many people will read this post in order to help spread musical knowledge to all those willing to learn.

So right now, here is my plan. We can make all information about all the composers (their lives, music style, and possible recommendations for music to listen to), the musical time period (with information regarding the time and a list of composers to listen to from the period), and I'd also wish to have us make a theory of composition thread for people who are less experienced.

So right now I'm going to try to make a possible layout for what we should be looking to do. I will also ask people to add to the layout with their posts. Since most of my knowledge of music dwells between the years 1770-1930, don't be surprised when I know little of either modern and baroque composers. Therefore I ask for the many who read this to add what they know about them.

The layout will hopefully include:

Intro,
Renaissance Period
Baroque Period
Classical Period
Romantic Period
Contemporary Period
Modern Period
Theory 101

And hopefully the "period" posts will have links to them of the composers with all the information for them.

At the same time the "theory" post can be taken out and made into a completely new thread.

If anyone has a better idea for a layout scheme, or anything in general, it would be very much appreciated. I know it's a lot of work, but I will carry it on for sure. I just hope it'll be more than me all the way.

For now, I need a few things for people to vote on:

"Theory thread or post?"

"Should we gather all on one piece (such as the classical period) and try to write as much information on it, or should we all work on separate posts?"

And last, I will need to know who is all willing to do the project.

Current list of people:
Le Aristocrat;
The Brass and String Man;
Cobalt;
Iannis Xenakis;
Septomor
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:59 am


I think a separate music theory thread would be ideal. It's quite a huge subject, and a thread might be better to keep it organised. But it's up to you.

I think the period that you are looking for contains several movements: Impressionism, Late-Romanticism, Neo-Classical, Nationalistic, Serialism. The problem lies in summing it all up in one phrase...

Le Aristocrat
Vice Captain


Cobalt

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:12 am


With "modern period," are you referring to today's pop/rock/rap stuff? Or contemporary art music?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 am


I think theory-related material would do good in a seperate thread and the different periods in this thread should be different posts. I think that'd make things easier to find and such.



As for that gap between Romantic and Modern, I think "20th Century" would apply well there. If Romantic is Berlioz/Wagner/etc. and Modern is Ticheli/Adams/etc., then I think "20th Century" would be good on Stravinsky/Shostakovich/etc.

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Septomor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:43 am


Ok, then I'll have the theory thread separated.

I've also decided that contemporary would be the ideal name (and is what TBASM said) and modern would be the time periods which Cobalt and LA have described.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:32 pm


Also, no Medieval or Renaissance periods? crying WHERE'S THE EARLY MUSIC LOVE?!?

Cobalt


Septomor

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:59 pm


Ok I can substitute those in as well. sweatdrop As I've said my attention is around 1770-1930.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:15 pm


That's the great thing about collaboration, somebody else knows more than you do in some things. :3

Cobalt


Septomor

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:02 pm


Ok, here's a basic skeleton key for composer information. I did not put hours of my life into it, but I did put basic information, and I did not complete it as you can probably tell. So here it is:

Quote:
Ludwig van Beethoven:
B. 16th December 1770
D. 26th March 1827

Style:
Commonly recognized as the first composer of the "Romantic" period, although he had spent most of his life in the "Classical" period.
His style of music can be seen as standard theory, with a few exceptions. Such exceptions as the 9th symphony, the Grosse (or GroBe) fugue, and the late string quartets (11-16).
He follows the suit of Mozart in many early places and the later places have a hint of Chopin/Schubert sounds.

Life:
Believed he was actually born in 1772, thus believed he was 2 years younger than what his offical birthdate. Was born into a family with records of premature deaths from his brothers and sisters. In the end, he only had 2 brothers who made it past maturity out of 7 seven total children.
His father is usually blamed for aiding in his deafness since his father had abused Beethoven when he was drunk. His father took him at a young age to preform before an auideince in Italy, which was his first trip out of Germany. He ended playing and breaking many of the strings of the piano and the auidience laughed at him and turned him down from being the next Mozart. However it is rumored that Beethoven gave a private preformence to Mozart at this time and Mozart was quoted to saying, "Keep an eye on this boy." And with that, Beethoven returned to Germany.
His mother died when he was 14, and his father when he was 16.

Suggested works for listening: Everything! But really, 5th Piano Concerto, 3rd, 5th, and 9th symphony, Sonatas: 8, 14, 17, 21, 23, 26, 29-32


And that is a basic key, nothing major.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:32 pm


Um, my area of expertise is around the same as yours, Septomor, but a bit earlier, and a little bit further into the twentieth century as well. So, if you delegate I'm happy to manage certain composers.

Le Aristocrat
Vice Captain


Cobalt

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:53 pm


Shall we just lay claim to whomever we'd like, and first come first served?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:57 pm


I will allow what Cobalt said. However, we will be able to edit information for other composers, until we all see it as a perfect definition.

Also if there is anything wrong with the Beethoven example up there, I would like to know. I didn't look up anything, that was all from memory so it could be wrong.

Septomor


Cobalt

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:51 pm


Okay, I'm leaving for about five days, but when I get back I'll get started on this. :3
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