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 Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:41 pm
Many years ago when I first saw the original Hellsing anime and saw the rune/design/mark on Alucard’s glove I thought that it was just a way for him to control/channel his powers or a form of spell that he used.  After the first episode I looked at the design closely to discover that had name ‘Hellsing’ and ‘Hells Gate Arrested’ in it so I quickly changed my initial concept to the idea that it was what binds and enslaves Alucard to the Hellsing family and that it was controlled and restricted by Integra. After watching the entire anime I thought wait a minute, there are times when Alucard controls his ‘restriction’ level by himself without permission from Integra so maybe it was all done through an internal link between Alucard and his Master. Therefore I thought that Alucard was allowed to do what he wanted but if he ever went against Hellsing, Integra could just stop his power flow. Through out the years my concept didn’t changed much but I can’t get my head around Alucard’s dream in volume 4 and episode 2 of the OVA series. http://youtube.com/watch?v=rDIjEU_O1CYYou can clearly see him wearing his rune glove in his right hand, I can’t see if the design is in his other glove but I’m going to assume that it is since he has it in both gloves. The way I see it: 1. The dream could have been altered like most dreams are since well, for example I doubt that Hellsing could have defeated Alucard the way he did on his dream, but then again you can’t argue with originality. 2. No one wanted to see Alucard without his gloves 3. It could be a simple mistake 4. A past memory that came back in the form of a dream. If the dream is a perfect image of past events that rune can‘t be right. Why on earth would Alucard be wearing a rune with the word Hellsing in it when Hellsing is staking him?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:10 pm
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:04 pm
My reading of the video clip is that because this is a dream, it is a reflection of Alucard's past from the point of view of his present self. His present self is bound and even in his dreams he is thus connected to Hellsing and the human world. The glove, visible in a dream showing his past, is the symbol of this.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:47 pm
Sir_Catherine My reading of the video clip is that because this is a dream, it is a reflection of Alucard's past from the point of view of his present self. His present self is bound and even in his dreams he is thus connected to Hellsing and the human world. The glove, visible in a dream showing his past, is the symbol of this. You know, that's actually a cool way of looking at it. I myself have always viewed it as a simple mistake, since in the manga he appears to not have it during that scene... but with that idea in mind, whether it's a mistake or not, it somewhat clarifies or even justifies it. (Clarify if your idea is infact correct, and something the OVA animators thought, and justifying if it's just a simple mistake)
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:15 pm
Suni moon Sir_Catherine My reading of the video clip is that because this is a dream, it is a reflection of Alucard's past from the point of view of his present self. His present self is bound and even in his dreams he is thus connected to Hellsing and the human world. The glove, visible in a dream showing his past, is the symbol of this. You know, that's actually a cool way of looking at it. I myself have always viewed it as a simple mistake, since in the manga he appears to not have it during that scene... but with that idea in mind, whether it's a mistake or not, it somewhat clarifies or even justifies it. (Clarify if your idea is infact correct, and something the OVA animators thought, and justifying if it's just a simple mistake)
I think he would want to remember a time when he was free, no matter how he is now restrained... but Catherine's idea has a great degree of merit as well.
I can just see why she's saying it after watching Eva xd
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:25 pm
Well, despite the Evangelion influence, I will say this on that theory:
Even if he would dream of a time of freedom, that particular dream is still a nightmare.
So I think his nightmares, which probably comprise a good chunk of his dreams, are void of that possibility. He could be back in his castle with his three stupid wives and a lack of seals in some dreams, but I think having the mark of his enslavement in that dream it somewhat okay.
Omagawd, I just thought of something:
Alucards dreams =
80% Horrible nightmares.
15% Shocking journeys to Willis space.
5% Happy dreams!
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:28 pm
Sir_Catherine My reading of the video clip is that because this is a dream, it is a reflection of Alucard's past from the point of view of his present self. His present self is bound and even in his dreams he is thus connected to Hellsing and the human world. The glove, visible in a dream showing his past, is the symbol of this. I thought that as well for a while but the idea seems very simple to me. Then again Alucard does cry at the end so maybe just for his lack of freedom or plainly because everything was taken from him. I don't contemplated the idea of it being a mistake, since this is quite an important and popular scene to the Alucard fans I doubt they would have made a mistake like that.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:30 pm
Suni moon Well, despite the Evangelion influence, I will say this on that theory: Even if he would dream of a time of freedom, that particular dream is a nightmare. So I think his nightmares, which probably comprise a good chunk of his dreams, are void of that possibility. Omagawd, I just thought of something: Alucards dreams = 80% Horrible nightmares. 15% Shocking journeys to Willis space. 5% Happy dreams!
Alucard have happy dreams? eek God forbid! lol
NO MOAR WILLIS-SPACE~! burning_eyes
But yes, a great deal of his existance is a nightmare of one kind or another no matter how he may say or act otherwise, so it only follows that his dreams would be as well.
So are we then saying that even his subconsious even doesn't like him, for he does not like himself or what he's become?
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:35 pm
Oh God, no, no existentialism, no further Eva induced posts tonight! I must not begin to discuss Alucard's subconscious. *repeats to self*
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:40 pm
Angel_Of_Hellfire Suni moon Well, despite the Evangelion influence, I will say this on that theory: Even if he would dream of a time of freedom, that particular dream is a nightmare. So I think his nightmares, which probably comprise a good chunk of his dreams, are void of that possibility. Omagawd, I just thought of something: Alucards dreams = 80% Horrible nightmares. 15% Shocking journeys to Willis space. 5% Happy dreams!
Alucard have happy dreams? eek God forbid! lol
NO MOAR WILLIS-SPACE~! burning_eyes
But yes, a great deal of his existance is a nightmare of one kind or another no matter how he may say or act otherwise, so it only follows that his dreams would be as well.
So are we then saying that even his subconsious even doesn't like him, for he does not like himself or what he's become? Well I don't think Alucard regrets his choice of becoming what he is. He rarely has a middle ground, you often get his ego or him hidden loathing. Who knows maybe his boredom has enslaved him to multiple personalities
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:41 pm
Sir_Catherine Oh God, no, no existentialism, no further Eva induced posts tonight! I must not begin to discuss Alucard's subconscious. *repeats to self* Pleqase do smile
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:47 pm
xDita Von Teesex Angel_Of_Hellfire Suni moon Well, despite the Evangelion influence, I will say this on that theory: Even if he would dream of a time of freedom, that particular dream is a nightmare. So I think his nightmares, which probably comprise a good chunk of his dreams, are void of that possibility. Omagawd, I just thought of something: Alucards dreams = 80% Horrible nightmares. 15% Shocking journeys to Willis space. 5% Happy dreams!
Alucard have happy dreams? eek God forbid! lol
NO MOAR WILLIS-SPACE~! burning_eyes
But yes, a great deal of his existance is a nightmare of one kind or another no matter how he may say or act otherwise, so it only follows that his dreams would be as well.
So are we then saying that even his subconsious even doesn't like him, for he does not like himself or what he's become? Well I don't think Alucard regrets his choice of becoming what he is. He rarely has a middle ground, you often get his ego or him hidden self loathing.
Indirectly? Yes, I do believe he regrets it and hates some part of himself, what he is, and what he has become.
One of the reasons he flips out on people (best example, Anderplant) for becoming monsters.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:48 pm
xDita Von Teesex Sir_Catherine Oh God, no, no existentialism, no further Eva induced posts tonight! I must not begin to discuss Alucard's subconscious. *repeats to self* Pleqase do smile
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:51 pm
Angel_Of_Hellfire xDita Von Teesex Angel_Of_Hellfire Suni moon Well, despite the Evangelion influence, I will say this on that theory: Even if he would dream of a time of freedom, that particular dream is a nightmare. So I think his nightmares, which probably comprise a good chunk of his dreams, are void of that possibility. Omagawd, I just thought of something: Alucards dreams = 80% Horrible nightmares. 15% Shocking journeys to Willis space. 5% Happy dreams!
Alucard have happy dreams? eek God forbid! lol
NO MOAR WILLIS-SPACE~! burning_eyes
But yes, a great deal of his existance is a nightmare of one kind or another no matter how he may say or act otherwise, so it only follows that his dreams would be as well.
So are we then saying that even his subconsious even doesn't like him, for he does not like himself or what he's become? Well I don't think Alucard regrets his choice of becoming what he is. He rarely has a middle ground, you often get his ego or him hidden self loathing.
Indirectly? Yes, I do believe he regrets it and hates some part of himself, what he is, and what he has become.
One of the reasons he flips out on people (best example, Anderplant) for becoming monsters. Well that's quite different. He was angry with Anderson because he want to be defeated only by a human.
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