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 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:41 am
 Does anyone know the origin of this picture of Ceripa, Bardock, and Toma in Hell??? I don't remember seeing this anywhere in the Manga or the Anime. I saw it originally on a gallery of the Saiya-Jin but it doesn't say it's origin. It just says "Bardock and his team after they go to hell." I would really like to know if this is from the real anime or if it is just fan fiction.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:47 pm
I'm almost positive that it's from one of the flashbacks during the fight with Frieza. Which part, I'm not exactly sure, but I do remember watching it rather resently.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:00 am
Thanks for the reply biggrin
You're the only person who responded lol.
I'll have to look up that episode.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:50 am
...actually that was me before I got hacked...-_-'
I'm actually almost positive that it was one of Frieza's flashbacks... Don't quote me on this though. It's definately not Goku's but there's a chance that it's one of Vegeta's...
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Son Goshi-kun Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:29 pm
oh, sorry you got hacked.. sad
are you sure you've actually seen it in the Anime and it's not fan made? I know for sure it's not in the Manga because I have everything through the cell saga.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:09 pm
I own the entirety of the manga...
Anyways, yes, I've seen it in the anime. I was resently watching the box sets and noticed it there. I don't know if it was originally cut out or not...
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:58 pm
Thats awesome that you own the manga. I've started collecting them and eventually I'll have them all sweatdrop
Do you know what season you saw it in? I have Season 1 and on Wed. I'm buying Seasons 2 and 3. If I had to guess it would be in season three..So hopefully I'll be able to check it out soon mrgreen
Lol, somethin thats always bothered me is the difference between Hell in Season one wwhen goku falls into it. And hell how it is presented later in the series. I mean, I know that it's a filler but still...
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:00 pm
also have you seen Bardock the Father of Gokou uncut? I've heard that it shows the fight between Toma, Seripa, Panbukin, and Toteppo vs Dodoria, Tanger, and Grepe
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:25 pm
Yes, I've seen it, and I have it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:52 pm
are there any major differences that are in the uncut version that aren't in the cut version?
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:38 pm
In which, the box sets or the Bardock special? In the Bardock special, there weren't all that many things that were cut out... but the few that were are kinda important.... And you never see more than the final blast that gets Tora/Toma.
The box sets are interesting. In Season one, a lot was originally cut out becuase Pioneer wanted it to be marketed to a younger audiance. As Funimation took over, much less was removed, so by the end of the series, there was virtually nothing gone...
Oh, and that scene is in the 3rd season.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:27 pm
thanks for all ur replies
i finally own seasons 1-3 and i have to say I'm really impressed
and I saw that clip, and it's not hell though
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:42 am
It's some time during Goku's fight with Frieza. Frieza was talking about Saiyans, and random pics of Saiyans popped up(that one included).
I really don't think Bardock went to HFIL. Think about it. His last line was...
"Kakarot...thank you for helping me. It wasn't too late.(and so on)"
IT WASN'T TOO LATE!! blaugh In my book, that means he didn't go to HFIL. Then again, I might be wrong...but oh well!
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:49 pm
Hmm... most people do tend to think that he went to Hell or HFIL, as it's been called. I wish to dispute this though. If you think back to the fight between Buu and Goku when they were on the Kai's planet, those who were in Hell were watching the fight. If I'm remembering correctly, Bardock was not shown... which points to him not being there, since he would have been watching his son's fight.
Therefore!!! I believe that he's probably being treated as an average soul, and will go through the cleansing and reincarnation process.
...crap, I'm going into one of my weird theories again...
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:38 pm
Son Goshi-kun Hmm... most people do tend to think that he went to Hell or HFIL, as it's been called. I wish to dispute this though. If you think back to the fight between Buu and Goku when they were on the Kai's planet, those who were in Hell were watching the fight. If I'm remembering correctly, Bardock was not shown... which points to him not being there, since he would have been watching his son's fight. Therefore!!! I believe that he's probably being treated as an average soul, and will go through the cleansing and reincarnation process. ...crap, I'm going into one of my weird theories again... OMG!! Crapit...I need to see more of the Buu scenes...(I haven't seen much of the Buu Sagas stuff... crying ) Yes, I agree, he would've watched his sons fight. YES!! Well...I don't agree with the 'reincarnation' part, but other than that, that is actually a very awesomely great theory. It's not weird!! Not at all! ^^ Do you guys realize that if Bardock didn't go to HFIL(I don't curse, you see), that would make him one of the FEW Saiyans who didn't? If not the ONLY one?
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