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is your personality different than your soul?
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  the personality is part of the soul
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aderemu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:25 pm


I have recently been reading some interesting spiritual books and have come across some views i'm sure where i stand on but thouht would do better with some discussion. one theory was that the personality is the fractured part of one's soul (the part the soul has to fix in this lifetime) so then killing off parts of the personality were not neccesarily killing off parts of the soul but in actually healing or ignoring that part for this lifetime. I don't personally agree all the way with this but here are a few questions: is your personality different than your soul? if so how would you define both of these things(for lack of a better word)? and finally does the soul live one incarnation or many??
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:01 pm


wow deep topic
This should be fun biggrin

From my understanding, our soul is the spiritual representation of ourselves. But as it includes a multitude of past lives and dimensions, our "human" personality is a fragment of the whole.

Our personality is a "tool" created by our soul so that it can experience things that it wouldn't have the chance to experience otherwise. Our personality defines who and what we are while we are on Earth. But for those who believe in rencarnation and have had the chance to witness a past life, most will find that their personality does change from one life to the next. Each personality is defined by how much we brought with us from Spirit (soul) and previous lives, plus the influences environment, belief systems, and role models of the current life. And as we continue in the live, the ratio of those things create our personality and define the Human aspects of us.

And this life time is only a scratch of detail which defines our soul.

Thyna


Priest of Odd

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:04 am


I always contend that animals have no soul unless a human shares their own with one. People who find this idea abhorrent try to prove me wrong by saying that animals have emotions. I shut them up by saying emotion has nothing to do with a soul. Contrary to popular belief, you soul has nothing to do with emotion, personality, or morality. It's just the peice of you that exists after death. It's the true you, and doubtlessly has emotion, morality, and personality, but that's not what it is.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:12 pm


Animals may not have a soul as we understand it, but they do have a collective consciousness/awareness. Each animal species has a speciallized awareness that doesn't represent just one aspect in a given demention, but a multiple of aspects of itself.

Humans due to our complexities and purposes tend to be more limited. The human soul may have many representatives of itself in a demention, but not nearly as many as say a dog or a squirrel.

Thyna


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:02 pm


I believe in what the Bible teaches me about our souls and I can not be shaken. I do not believe in past lives. I am to old to change my ideas on life, and have had a set set of values for the past 50 years which I hold to at work and at play. Take this for what it is worth or toss it aside. My life is mine and your life is yours and trying to convince another that yours is better does not work.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:36 am


I Ceymore Ratz
I believe in what the Bible teaches me about our souls and I can not be shaken. I do not believe in past lives. I am to old to change my ideas on life, and have had a set set of values for the past 50 years which I hold to at work and at play. Take this for what it is worth or toss it aside. My life is mine and your life is yours and trying to convince another that yours is better does not work.


I do not expect anyone to change their beliefs. Nor do I feel that my beliefs are any better than anyone elses. The information shared here is only to help us to learn and understand each other and maybe even to further strengthen our convictions.

I value your beliefs as much as I value my own.

Ceymore, please feel free to share what the bible says about the soul. heart

Thyna


Smithium

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:09 pm


Thyna
Animals may not have a soul as we understand it, but they do have a collective consciousness/awareness. Each animal species has a speciallized awareness that doesn't represent just one aspect in a given demention, but a multiple of aspects of itself.

Humans due to our complexities and purposes tend to be more limited. The human soul may have many representatives of itself in a demention, but not nearly as many as say a dog or a squirrel.


I dunno why, but this kind of reminds me of "the 100th monkey" theory.

Makes me wonder just how different animals/humans are.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:58 pm


i love how topics get so twisted from beinning to end. the evolving train of thought... I am not surprised that there are so many different views but i value everyone's oppinion equally.

anyways it is a good question as to if animals other than humans have souls... if we define the soul as our true selves then animals who rely more on the natural order of life would be closer to their true selves and therefore know their own soul... my head is just brainstorming outloud now...

my personal belief is that we are all connected by some form of higher consciousness (all being every living thing on the planet)... however did you know in certain ancient cultures you cannot touch anothers tools because their tools are said to contain a soul (or part of the owners soul) just some more for you to think on

aderemu


Thyna

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:20 am


KappaKaeru
Thyna
Animals may not have a soul as we understand it, but they do have a collective consciousness/awareness. Each animal species has a speciallized awareness that doesn't represent just one aspect in a given demention, but a multiple of aspects of itself.

Humans due to our complexities and purposes tend to be more limited. The human soul may have many representatives of itself in a demention, but not nearly as many as say a dog or a squirrel.


I dunno why, but this kind of reminds me of "the 100th monkey" theory.

Makes me wonder just how different animals/humans are.



heheh might be where that info came from wink

I'm not a big study on a lot of the theories of metaphysics and supernatural studies, but I do pick up bits and peices from time to time 3nodding
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:15 am


I have always believed that your personality is merely the part of your soul that others are able to identify and communicate with. Some people I know have a difficult time in believing that, but I have always found it easier to think that our souls use personailty in order to find other souls they are familiar with. It goes along with the fact that I also believe in soulmates.

But no one ever really knows smile

TatteredBliss


Smithium

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:28 pm


I'm wondering, have you read the book "The Seat of the Soul?" The first chapter is about this exact topic. It's for the theory that your personalty is a part of the soul that the soul is trying to heal. I think I agree with this.

It says another thing in that chapter about how your soul exists outside of time. So it said that, to the soul, all of your personalities exist simultaneously. Meaning that, when you overcome negativity in one lifetime, it strengthens the soul and thus strengthening yourself in other lifetimes.

I find this so very confusing. If your soul doesn't exist in time, how is it growing/changing? It seems to me that if you overcome a challenge, you'd have to have been at a point where the challenge was not overcome therefore it seems impossible to grow without time. Seems like a very linear thing... which is the defenition of time itself. So, how could that be possible? How could the soul be growing while not being restricted by time? wouldn't that somehow mean that the soul was already at it's fullness and far from it at the same time?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:03 pm


Good question Seymour. Now I read through all the posts and I believe that this will be a learning experience being a member to this guild. mrgreen

Now my view used to be a bit vague but ever since I read "To the other side and back" by Sylvia Brown...my view certainly changed. I read it a good one or two years ago and I sort of built on from there.

I can't say that animals have a soul of their own but I believe that from someone else's view that it can represent someone they knew if a past life or perhaps now. I know I have found quite a few animals that are like that.

Me= Raven (Vaguely obvious, da?)
Tonya (BEST PERSON TO EVER LIVE)= Dove

I made a pretty good poem from that theory. Animals themselves don't carry the capacity to have their own soul but they have emotion and awareness of many things. Both me and my cats get freaked out at night in my house...

Can't say much else of my own really. But I agree that a soul builds up a certain grace and form over time with all the experiences that have happened and WILL happen to us.

Blind_Eyed_Raven


Thyna

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:26 am


I'm going to bring this topic back. Every so often I will save interesting topics from getting lost in the collection of things and either add the information to already existing threads of similar content or give them a bump to see if there are any fresh views on the subject.


So
Do you have any thoughts about the connection between personality and soul? Are they the same thing or are they different?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:42 pm


Everything has spirit. Animals to. Even tree,rocks, and celestial bodies. Spirit is are very existence. With out it everything would just be a empty shell with only the driving instinct to survive that's it. Are personality,emotions,morality does come are spirit within us. With some influence from other around us and are environment.

Koigokoro Konjou


Groovy Jimbo

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:20 pm


I believe that our personality is a small piece of our souls, but I usually like to seperate this from my mind alot, Im uncomfortable with thinking about death and the afterlife, though i am not afraid to talk about it.
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