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 Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:50 pm
Im unsure if body modifications are still classed as taboos.
On one hand, girls getting navel piercings and a small flower is okay, so i guess that's kind of progressing =|
Two things i hate
1) I hate having to hide all my facial piercings, i dont feel like im being honest. BUT money pays bills and so far, not even my old retail job allowed piercings.
2) My mom sometimes. When we go in restaurants and places where we MAY see someone she knows, she makes me take my labret out and push my septum ring up, because she doesn't want other people to think bad of HER and she doesnt want people to think THEY didn't raise me right =/
She tells me daily how ugly i am because of the holes and marks on me.
She likes to say how pretty i was when i was a baby, and shes sad those days had to go.
People are so scared of differences now, i cant imagine how bad it was back in the 1960's and around then with the real original tattooers and such..
Discuss:
* What rude comments do you face for your bodmods?
* Are they worth it?
* Oldbies from back in the day, how was it then? =O
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:54 am
It is very sad that even in this day and age we still face prejudice. But the truth is people are afraid of people and things that are different than the "norm". I guess if we all searched ourselves we may just find we do it too. We may not even realize we are, but I am sure we all have something or some "type" of sterotype we are unsure of and we may avoid it. So, we need to be a bit understanding of those who may shun us or try to make us feel bad. Truth is, they are just afraid of what they don't understand and most came from a time and generation where it was not acceptable and even feared, because most people back in the day who had tattoos where of criminal background or lived "unsavory" lives or were carnival sideshows, again not the "norm". But, with all the acceptance in this world of everything else, I am very surprised that body mods are not more the "norm" now.
As for me and my experiences, I have been blessed not to be shunned thus far. The most I've gotten that was negative, was my father-in-law saying he just doesn't understand why anyone would want to ruin their bodies like that. But, that was it, he doesn't dwell on it, when any of us get a new tattoo he just shakes his head and laughs. I don't really ever see my dad, he's become a recluse in his old age, but I would cover up my tattoos if I did see him. He doesn't know about them and if he did, I know he wouldn't approve. My mom passed away when I was 17, but I'm sure at first she may not have been happy about them, but in time I know she would have been accepting, she may have even ended up with one herself, that was just how my mom was, unconditional love.
I am so sorry that your mom treats you like that and says those hurtful things, but just know that as a mom myself it is hard to see our kids as anything but those precious little babies that we once had. I've taken my girls to get their first tattoos, and I was excited for them, but I have to admit that when my middle daughter (she was the first of my kids to get one) got her first one, it was an internal battle in myself that her once pure, slate clean skin was no longer going to be as it was and basically was on it's way to becoming a new skin. I got over it quickly and I never let her know that, but since she's a member of this guild she will know it now. blaugh
Even though I haven't really faced the downfalls as of yet, I'd still say it would be worth it, because in the end I am true to myself and who I am.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:40 pm
I've never had any issues with my tattoos or piercings, my dad says that he doesn't like tattoos on women but he appreciates my need to be unique as he's covered in tattoos himself so he see's where I'm coming from, he just thinks mine are too big lol but back in the late 70's, early 80's when my dad was a teen, he rode a motor bike and wore a leather jacket and if my Nan (his mum) saw him walking down the road and she was with a friend she'd cross the road to avoid him just incase her friends judged her coz her son was a "rebel"! She laughs about it now but at the time it was a very big thing, the single best piece of advice I've ever been given was by my nan though, which was "always stay true to yourself, if you are different then be different, the people who count will never judge you or hate you for being who you are"
It took her a few years to accept that but its true and the world has changed so much since the days when her youngest son was a bike riding rebel!
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:48 pm
Yeah... some parents just don't understand. Maybe because during their time, piercings and tattoos were worn by certain people in society.
Such as tattoos and prisoners...
Which is absolutely different now...
Maybe you should open their eyes ^^
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:30 pm
My mums always been cool with the piercings and dyed hair coz at the end of the day the dye washes out and the piercings can be removed, she's not too keen on the tattoos but she knows there's stories and reasons behind them and she loves the fact that I'm an individual, my dad loves that I refuse to follow the crowd, they're both really proud of me for being different and just being myself so I guess Im lucky to have such supportive parents, but I do think that with each generation comes a lot more open-mindedness, I'm gonna be a lot more leanient with my son than my parents were with me because its the way the world progresses, if you think back to how society was in the 1800's, you could go to prison for being homosexual back then, now its a lot more acceptable, its the same with a lot of things, society can't help but judge you on what you look like, but now its a lot easier to walk down the road with a ring in your lip than it was 10 years ago because society has evolved, its the generation gap in action!
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:11 pm
Well its not just my mum, she was an example x3
What about getting a good job?
My professor basically told me, no one is going to hire a RN that is tattooed like a junkie =/
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:41 am
PiercedPixie2 Well its not just my mum, she was an example x3 What about getting a good job?
My professor basically told me, no one is going to hire a RN that is tattooed like a junkie =/ In the summer I got fed up of working in the hospital so decided to have a change, I worked from last september til this January in the Job centre, with tattoos and piercings, my line manager who was covered in tatoos too knew my one my friends who's 43 and a hardcore punk and she also knew my dad from the days when he was a biker! If I can get a government job with what I look like then so can anyone, providing you live in a sensible country.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:03 pm
You know, the more I thought about it I realized that I have had one person that has been a real jerk about my tattoos and that is my older sister! She is 7 years older than me and in the beauty salon business, it is a very upscale salon. She is married to a sports celebrity and hob nobs with the Hollywood elite, yet she is so narrow minded when it comes to tattoos. She is also very naive when it comes to them too. She made a statement one time when I mentioned Angelina Jolie having tattoos and my sister said, "Well, she's having them removed, she finally matured and grew up." Uh, hello, Angelina only removed the name of her ex, Billy Bob Thorton from her upper arm. She had tattoos from monks and such, very sacred pieces, she's not going to have those removed. My sister always makes deragatory remarks about mine and can't believe I "allowed" my kids to get them. Again, hello, 18? Legal age? Even though I paid for them and took them to my artist, the point is they would have done it anyway. I have to say she really makes me mad when she says those things, but I don't give her the satisfaction of letting her know that and the good thing is I don't see her very often anyway. gonk
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:31 am
Atomic Pixie7 You know, the more I thought about it I realized that I have had one person that has been a real jerk about my tattoos and that is my older sister! She is 7 years older than me and in the beauty salon business, it is a very upscale salon. She is married to a sports celebrity and hob nobs with the Hollywood elite, yet she is so narrow minded when it comes to tattoos. She is also very naive when it comes to them too. She made a statement one time when I mentioned Angelina Jolie having tattoos and my sister said, "Well, she's having them removed, she finally matured and grew up." Uh, hello, Angelina only removed the name of her ex, Billy Bob Thorton from her upper arm. She had tattoos from monks and such, very sacred pieces, she's not going to have those removed. My sister always makes deragatory remarks about mine and can't believe I "allowed" my kids to get them. Again, hello, 18? Legal age? Even though I paid for them and took them to my artist, the point is they would have done it anyway. I have to say she really makes me mad when she says those things, but I don't give her the satisfaction of letting her know that and the good thing is I don't see her very often anyway. gonk My sister is one of those 'holier than thou' people. She calls tattoos tramp stamps. Only other person who says that is my dad, and she is not his age stressed @Lil Miss LunaticI dont know, i live in Georgia, in a small city... So most of the people i live near are country hicks, and very small minded. I dont think i could get a job with a visable tattoo as a government job, nursing job, or retail...Even when i worked at a clothing store, they made me take my labret out, and i didnt even show them my septum n.n
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:48 am
I live in Toronto, which is a pretty liberal, multicultural city where people of all different kinds are tolerated.
But, when I got my septum piercing about a month ago, people were constantly telling me, "Ew, why did you do that? Those are so ugly! You'll look like a bull!" and so on and so forth. Obviously I don't pay them any mind, as I got the piercing for myself, not for them, but this still struck me as a little strange. I know people with lip rings, nose rings, navel rings, eyebrow rings, etc etc, but it seems that some kind of mods, the ones you don't normally see as much, are still looked upon as weird and ugly. I've seen this same thing happen with large gauge stretched ears. Mine are 2g and 4g, and for the most part nobody really notices them because they're small, I tend to wear solid plugs, and my hair covers my ears most of the time. The odd time I wear a tunnel or a silicone ear skin, people mostly think it's interesting and cool. Many others, however, think it's pretty gross. A friend of mine who had his ears stretched to 1" was CONSTANTLY getting dirty looks and horrified stares. So I do think that only the more understated, common bodymods are seen as "acceptable", and others, not quite so much.
My parents, who are old-school Italian, have no idea about either my stretched ears or my septum ring. To be fair, it's not as if I'm trying to hide my ears. My mother knows I've got thicker earrings in there, but she doesn't fully understand the idea behind it and just quite how big they are. XD The septum, on the other hand, I'm fairly sure I'd be skinned alive for. It's just that it's something I really wanted, I'd been wanting for a long time, and thought looked gorgeous. I realized that I am at legal age, I can do this myself, and I don't want my parents disappointed in me. I can have the pretty septum piercing without having to deal with the drama of them finding out.
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:52 am
Cosmic Surgery I live in Toronto, which is a pretty liberal, multicultural city where people of all different kinds are tolerated. But, when I got my septum piercing about a month ago, people were constantly telling me, "Ew, why did you do that? Those are so ugly!" and so on and so forth. Obviously I don't pay them any mind, as I got the piercing for myself, not for them, but this still struck me as a little strange. I know people with lip rings, nose rings, navel rings, eyebrow rings, etc etc, but it seems that some kind of mods, the ones you don't normally see as much, are still looked upon as weird and ugly. I've seen this same thing happen with large gauge stretched ears. Mine are 2g and 4g, and for the most part nobody really notices them because they're small, I tend to wear solid plugs, and my hair covers my ears most of the time. The odd time I wear a tunnel or a silicone ear skin, people mostly think it's interesting and cool. Many others, however, think it's pretty gross. A friend of mine who had his ears stretched to 1" was CONSTANTLY getting dirty looks and horrified stares. So I do think that only the more understated, common bodymods are seen as "acceptable", and others, not quite so much. My parents, who are old-school Italian, have no idea about either my stretched ears or my septum ring. To be fair, it's not as if I'm trying to hide my ears. My mother knows I've got thicker earrings in there, but she doesn't fully understand the idea behind it and just quite how big they are. XD The septum, on the other hand, I'm fairly sure I'd be skinned alive for. It's just that it's something I really wanted, I'd been wanting for a long time, and thought looked gorgeous. I realized that I am at legal age, I can do this myself, and I don't want my parents disappointed in me. I can have the pretty septum piercing without having to deal with the drama of them finding out. I showed my mom my septum after a year of her not knowing, she doesnt care much until we go in public. My mother and her side are old school Latin Americans, my grandmother was the only one to even have more than one ear ring, ha! So i just dont tell my family =/ Also, where i used to work, when people came in shopping with like 00 g ears, my managers would be like 'that reminds me of those crazy african tribes!' I think.... How much stupider can you get?
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:01 pm
PiercedPixie2 Cosmic Surgery I live in Toronto, which is a pretty liberal, multicultural city where people of all different kinds are tolerated. But, when I got my septum piercing about a month ago, people were constantly telling me, "Ew, why did you do that? Those are so ugly!" and so on and so forth. Obviously I don't pay them any mind, as I got the piercing for myself, not for them, but this still struck me as a little strange. I know people with lip rings, nose rings, navel rings, eyebrow rings, etc etc, but it seems that some kind of mods, the ones you don't normally see as much, are still looked upon as weird and ugly. I've seen this same thing happen with large gauge stretched ears. Mine are 2g and 4g, and for the most part nobody really notices them because they're small, I tend to wear solid plugs, and my hair covers my ears most of the time. The odd time I wear a tunnel or a silicone ear skin, people mostly think it's interesting and cool. Many others, however, think it's pretty gross. A friend of mine who had his ears stretched to 1" was CONSTANTLY getting dirty looks and horrified stares. So I do think that only the more understated, common bodymods are seen as "acceptable", and others, not quite so much. My parents, who are old-school Italian, have no idea about either my stretched ears or my septum ring. To be fair, it's not as if I'm trying to hide my ears. My mother knows I've got thicker earrings in there, but she doesn't fully understand the idea behind it and just quite how big they are. XD The septum, on the other hand, I'm fairly sure I'd be skinned alive for. It's just that it's something I really wanted, I'd been wanting for a long time, and thought looked gorgeous. I realized that I am at legal age, I can do this myself, and I don't want my parents disappointed in me. I can have the pretty septum piercing without having to deal with the drama of them finding out. I showed my mom my septum after a year of her not knowing, she doesnt care much until we go in public. My mother and her side are old school Latin Americans, my grandmother was the only one to even have more than one ear ring, ha! So i just dont tell my family =/ Also, where i used to work, when people came in shopping with like 00 g ears, my managers would be like 'that reminds me of those crazy african tribes!' I think.... How much stupider can you get?Haha, my grandfather gets upset when my mother wears her ankle bracelet. lol. Although they are starting to tolerate piercings and things a little more (my oldest cousin used to have a tongue ring and my other older cousin has a nose stud, both of them have their ears pierced - they're guys), they still don't particularly like them. They don't even like my ears being double pierced. I don't want to hurt their feelings or have them think I'm getting into trouble because I have piercings.
lol to the African Tribes thing...I actually know someone whose grandmother has African tribal ancestry and she LOVES the fact that she's got stretched ears! xd
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:35 pm
I think I've just realised how lucky I am to be living in the UK with really laidback parents! Most of my friends are into the metal scene so they're covered in tattoos and piercings so Im not looked upon as anything other than Luna lol my boyfriend doesnt have any tattoos or piercings but he's getting a tattoo done when the babies here, my dad, my boyfriend and I are going to take a trip to the tattoo parlour and all commemorate my little boy coming into the world by permanently engraving his name into our bodies smile
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:59 pm
this is why i keep all my tattoos under clothing...
i hate not being able to express myself fully without undue critisicm.
it's changing slowly, and as more of my generation (gen x) gets into power in the comming years..it's likely to change more and more...most of us are tattooed or pierced and we don't see anything wrong with that..it'll evengually trickle down where it'll hardly be noticed..
however some jobs will always ban facial pirecing for good reasons.
after all a lot of food places ban even normal earrings as a safty measure.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:23 am
Actually, my mum hates it when I wear an anklet as apparently its a sign of being a prostitute or something, yet she doesnt mind any of my other jewellery...! I suppose she'd rather I looked like a punk than a hooker though LOL xd
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