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You guys have to go to this website - www.endtime.com

This Website talks about the Bible Prophecies of the Endtime!

You have got to know this because the SECOND COMING OF THE LORD IS VERY SOON!!!

Okay, I just don't know where to put this thread, so I put it up here for all to see. mrgreen

Fo' sho'.

You you guys want me to guide you through this website,I recommend you go to the left side of the website and click the "Video" link. There you will be able to learn about the Bible Prophecies of the Endtime & more! Click on "Select a category" and begin learning by clicking on "Understanding the Endtime Level 1". Right now, I am going to giving you guys quick info about the 4 PROPHECIES that will begin to fulfill by the END OF 2008!!!

2 BILLION TO DIE (World War III) - Revelation 9:13-21: I am not so much knowledgable about this prophecy though but tonight I will learn in depth.

- In Relation to Now:
What I know is that there will be a war that will take place on the Euphrates River. That is located between IRAQ & IRAN! Already we are having problems with these countries about oil, terrorists, & other stuff that these problems are going to explode and start WWIII. Over there in the Middle East, Israel, the U.S., Great Britain, France, & I believe Japan, are doing exrcises for war to show Iran to comprise with the rest of us or we'll force them into isolation & not get involved with worldly stuff like Trade. In other words, they will be losing money. That is the best of my knowledge I know about this info. What I really do know is Iran is making Nuclear Weapons and was reported to Israel. Why this is important is if Iran has this kind of power in there hands, they will be able to get rid of Isreal, their enemy, once & for all. Israel & Iran are not that far apart at all! Israel has two choices but it all depends on who is going to be our President: 1) Obama - Israel does not trust him and if he is President, Israel will attack Iran because they do not feel as though Obama does not have their back, 2) McCain - Israel does trust him & Israel will not attack if he is in office.

REVIVAL OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE (European Union) - Daniel 2: Read this chapter to understand what I am trying to say.

- Interpretation:
Head of Gold - Nebuchadnezzar's Kingdom (Babylonian Empire)
Arms & Chest of Silver - Median & Persian Empire; read Daniel 5:1-31 to know why
Thighs & Belly of Bronze - Grecian Empire
Legs of Iron - Roman Empire
Feet & Toes of Iron & Clay - Holy Roman Empire

- In Relation to Today:
The Holy Roman Empire is being revived. Only it will not be called the Holy Roman Empire. The new name of the Holy Roman Empire is the European Union. The nations of Europe came together to sign the Lisbon Treaty. What this treaty does is that there will be the offical European Union. In other words, this treaty makes Europe the UNITED STATES OF EUROPE! Already 21 out of 23 nations ratified a Constituation for the European Union! And just like the Holy Roman Empire from the past, the revived Holy Roman Empire will have two leaders: a Political Leader & a Spiritual Leader. The Political Leader wll be the Antichrist & the Spiritual Leader will be the False Prophet. These two will be coming out of the Holy Roman Empire.

666: SATAN'S MASTER PLAN (New World Order) - Revelation 13: There is so much to this prophecy to explain that I cannot fit it all in here. But I will say this much:

- Interpretation:
Beast out of Sea - World Governemnt
Beast out of Earth - World Religion
666 - World Economy

- In Relation to Today:
World Government on this earth is the United Nations. Already the Internation Criminal Court is set up. The ICC has the power to prosecute individuals for genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression, although it cannot currently exercise jurisdiction over the crime of aggression. Already they arrest the head of state of Sudan for the crime of Genocide. It is like saying they arrested President Bush for Genocide. I am not saying that the Head of Sudan or President Bush deserve to be arrested, I am saying that WORLD GOVERMENT IS RISING TO POWER & IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! (of course) AND THE LEADER OF THIS WORLD GOVERNMENT WILL BE THE ANTICHRIST!!!
World Religion is not the religions of the world, but Interfaithism. Interfaithism is a movement that tells people of religion to forget differences, get rid of doctrinal problems, learn to love one anothe, & get along together. Sounds good right? WRONG! Though we as Christians believe that we should love one another, we also believe that Jesus Christ is the one who you must recieve Salvation & the only way to the Father & into Heaven; the one & only true God. Interfaithism will prevent us from preaching the truth of the Gospel to the world and get everyone confuse that no matter what religion you are in, everyone will go to paradise. Be careful with this, don't be fooled, stand strong!
World Economy is on this earth right now, but the Mark of the Beast is the National ID's & Advance Surveilence Technology being made. Have you guys heard of the REAL ID Act? You should know about this because, at this time, McCain is for this and already passed & signed by Congress & President Bush. What is this REAL ID Act you say? It is a NATIONAL ID that EVERYONE MUST HAVE IN THE U.S. Without this ID, YOU WON'T: Drive your car, Board a plane, train, or bus, Enter any federal building, Open a bank account, Hold a job!!! Sounds familiar? IT IS THE IMPLEMENT OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST! Now, to be clear about this, the READ ID IS NOT the Mark of the Beast, it IS AN IMPLEMENT of the Mark of the Beast. In other words, if this Bill passes, this will lead us to the final step to give every one the MARK OF THE BEAST!!! If you want to find out more info on the REAL ID Act & how to stop this, go to www.nonationalid.com. It is also found in Endtime.com home site in the bottom-left side.

THE CONFIRMATION OF THE COVENANT (Mideast Peace Treaty) - Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15-21, & 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4: This prophecy is the most important one you NEED TO KNOW!!! THIS PROPHECY HAS A DATE!!!

- Interpretation:
THIS EVENT WILL MARK THE FINAL SEVEN YEARS TO THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDON!!! THE SECOND COMING OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!! In the middle of the 7 years, the Antichrist will stop the people to do sacrifices to God & will proclaim himself as God! That will be the Abomination of Desolation which will start the last 3 1/2 years of Great Tribulation. This will all lead to the Second Coming of Lord Jesus Christ.

- In Relation to Now:
President Bush already stated that by the end of his office as President, there will be a signed pease treaty between Israel and the Middle East. They will finally settle Major Issues such as the border of Israel, sharing the Temple Mount & Jerusalem, & to build a Third Jewish Temple (the first two were already destroyed in the past). Already, people in Israel are making preparations for the new temple such as making blueprints, training priests for these, practcing how to sacrfice for the altar, & more. Once this peace treaty is finally settled, the final 7 years to Armagedon will begin.

These Prophecies are all on the road to probably be fulfilled by the end of 2008!!! THIS YEAR!!!

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Now, to be serious, I understand this is a lot to take in. Most of you don't understand or you think I am crazy (that's an obvious choice. But I in my heart that God is telling me to speard this knowledge to everyone I know. I don't know everyone in this Guild but I do know we are all Christians. Whatever your heart is, I won't judge you, it is God that see who you really are. All of you are my brothers & sisters in Christ and that as your brother, I must tell you the truth.

If you want to go in deep in these prophecies & learn more about what I've just said, go to www.endtime.com and find out for yourself. I presented you the facts the best of my knowledge & the best I can tell you guys. If you do not believe me, check it out for yourself. But you need to know about this NOW! The whole world & all of God's children are involved in this. We must spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to all the world, and to everyone we meet A.S.A.P. It is extremely important.

All this info I just gave is for Endtime.com. Also, if you have an iPod, you can download Podcasts of previous shows they have done in the past. That is where I found my news. They also have Video Podcasts as well both in iTunes & YouTube. They have a live Radio Show that starts at 3pm Central Time and have a Youth Radio live on Tuesdays at 4:30 pm Central Time as well.

So go check out Endtime Ministries, they're awesome! I am not from Endtime Ministries, but I support what they do which is spreading the truth to everyone of Jesus Christ.

If there are any questions or comments, please don't hesitate to PM, but make sure you title the message "Endtime".

God Bless You All! mrgreen

Okay, I am done editing. mrgreen Boy was it long.

While the Bible tells us that not even Jesus knows the day of His return, we are given signs to watch out for, and Jesus tells us to be ready. Certainly, we're to be prepared as if that time really was tomorrow (or today!), but there are things we can look for that will give us some certainty that we're getting closer. "Wars and rumors of wars" would be one of them, increase in natural disasters, poverty, things like that. Yes, these things have always existed, and perhaps they even exist on a cycle, but I don't think they were talking about Global Warming 1500 years ago (whether Global Warming actually exists or not is not the point- the point is that things are changing). There are many countries that exist today that are mentioned in the Bible, referenced by different names, but Bible scholars and theologians are able to match the various places in the Bible to certain countries today. Russia and the United States are mentioned, along with many Middle Eastern nations (some by the names they have today, some by names they no longer have due to changing borders and whatnot). They are mentioned in prophecies, in Isaiah and Ezekiel, and of course Revelation.



I can't give you any sources, but I've heard from a few places that they expect Antichrist to come from somewhere in Europe. Now, how this was decided, I'm not sure exactly. It's just what I've heard. Take it with a grain of salt (as you already are, but, you know, for everybody else too).



Which part? That he will head the UN and the EU or that he will create a NWO? Because I'm pretty sure it's alluded in the Bible that he will create a NWO.



How do you mean? I'm pretty sure there's alot of talk of the End Times, specifically in Revelation, but also throughout the Gospels, where Jesus gives us certain things that we should look out for. Was Jesus lying, or are we totally misinterpreting His words?

Very few modern countries are ever mentioned in the Bible. The United States and Russia are not, though some people have decided they are. This decision has almost no basis, usually resulting from interpreting some imagery used in the Bible (such as an eagle) to refer to a country, when there is no reason to believe that particular interpretation is correct.

Being prepared for the end times is fine, and I have no problem with it. In fact, I encourage it. I tell people to live as though each day could be the last day. This however, is a far cry from doomsday prophets claiming one particular interpretation is the "true meaning of God's Word."



There is nothing in the Bible which says there will be a world government. The closest anyone can offer is a highly questionable interpretation of a few passages.



I was a bit vague here, which could cause confusion. Here I was referring to the doomsday prophecies of modern times, not passages from the Bible. People like those behind the website offered in this topic are offering their own interpretation (and I hesitate to even call it that) of the Bible as the "Truth," but there is no basis for any of it. I apologize for making it sound as though I dismissed the end times.

I would have no problem if people approached the topic with, "I just thought of a way of looking at the book of Revelations that could show the end times are near. I don't know that its correct, so let's discuss it." That is not what happens. Instead, people create a belief system loosely based upon unclear biblical passages and say it is the undeniable truth. Quite often, these people then use this belief system to make money, affect politics, gain attention or do other things contrary to the nature of Christianity. It has been done for over a thousand years, and yet so many Christians still blindly leap at each new doomsday prophet.

Discussing possible interpretations of the end times is fine. Being prepared for the end is great. Saying your message is the "truth" is not. Supporting politicians based upon some "truth" is not. It is amazing how often people talk about the coming of the Great Deceiver while simultaneously supporting deception. It is the same thing that happens quite often with the condemnation of homosexuality. People decide for themselves what they want to believe, then they force the Bible to support them.

First, I cut out part of this section containing remarks by Element Guardian and myself. Nothing different was said in that, aside from citing verses which did not say what was claimed.

Second, nothing here responds to my questions. What makes these doomsday prophecies more valid that all the others that have existed throughout the years? What do they have the others did not?



No. Iran is not making nuclear weapons, and there is nothing on any website that proves it is. Incidentally, I did not say Iran making nuclear weapons disturbed me (it does not since Iran is not), I said comparing politicians based upon biblical prophecies disturbs me.



There is so much supposition here I do not even have to disagree. Even if all of this were true, there would be no way to know it is the correct interpretation as opposed to some other interpretation. This is just another in a long chain of people seeing what they want to see in the Bible.



Why should anyone believe doomsday prophecies held together by facts like Germany uses leopard tanks...? How could anyone claim to *know* the Bible meant this?

As it happens, Leopard tanks are used in the armies of sixteen countries. Those countries are Austria, Chile, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey. In addition, Australia is in the process of acquiring leopard tanks for its army. So not only is the flimsiest of ties being used here, it is being used in an extremely selective way.

If this is enough to tie a country to a biblical passage, I can find at least a dozen countries that could fit each of those animals.



This is bunk. As I already stated, there is effort amongst religions to be more accommodating of each other. The hope is that all religions can coexist. That is what the United Religions Initiative is attempting. They are not attempting to merge religions, to squash discussion or anything of the sort. That is just made up.



The Real ID Act (not REAL ID Act) is a federal law. There are 50 states that have not passed it, because states do not pass federal laws.



This is even more nonsense. First, as before, Israel is part of the Middle east. There is no supposed treaty between Israel and the Middle East. The treaty George Bush wants is between Palestine and Israel. Second, unlike the claims here, George Bush never said this treaty will be signed by the end of the year. He said he "hopes" and "believes" it will be signed by then. Even then, the description given here of what the treaty will do is incorrect.