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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:06 am
(NOT MY WRITING, THIS IS A QUOTE FROM A SITE I LIKE) Quote: Does anyone else support keeping marijuana illegal? There has been a lot of talk from my co-workers lately about Barak Obama and his stance on legalizing weed. They're all prepared to go and actually vote this election because of it. They want to be able to go to a store, buy some pot, and walk around smoking joints like they were cigarettes. I doubt things would ever get that liberal but it seems to me that legalization of marijuana would be a very bad thing for those of us who enjoy it on even a semi-regular basis. The first thing that would happen, if pot was legalized, is a spike in prices. There would be so many sin taxes on it that the high price of name brand cigarettes would seem like a steal. The goverment would have to get money out of it somehow. Noone does anything for free. The next step would be regulation. Special interest groups, such as Mother Against Drunk Driving, would be up in arms and insure that the government regulated the amount of actual marijuana one could get, or more likely, the amount of THC in the marijuana. That means you could go in, spend $60 on a laughable amount of weed and after you get done smoking it all up a little while later, you're left with only a slight buzz because it has almost non-existant levels of THC. This would also lead to greater degrees of punishment for those caught selling non-regulated or non-approved marijuana. The stuff you get from your dealer now would be black market goods, not only illegal as before but worse since the government would then be losing money on anything not sold through their system. Don't think so? Try to grow cigarette tobacco sometime. You'll get in more trouble being caught for that than for growing your own pot. I say keep marijuana illegal. What needs to change is the penalties. Marijuana needs to be taken off of the list of schedule 1 narcotics. Granted, so does MDMA as it has been approved by the FDA and is still used for the treatment of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, but that's a rant for another time. Marijuana needs to be lowered to schedule 3 or below on the list of narcotics. Keep it illegal but get rid of the ridiculous penalties for possession or selling. Those are my thought on the subject anyway...
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:09 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:32 pm
That guy's absolutely retarded...It's perfectly legal to grow your own tobacco. You just can't sell it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:25 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:09 pm
keep marajiwanna eligal becuse if it was leagal it would cost way too much $ but it would be esier to find
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:10 pm
It wouldn't cost too much. ******** dude. Here, a gram of 'good' bud, which in reality is just some danky mids, can run $20-25. If it were legal, there would be a steady supply of amazing bud at a consistent price, no shady drug dealers, no having to be secret about it, and no more idiotic drug testing(at least for marijuana). Can you imagine if weed costed as much as cigarettes? That'd be like 20+ grams of AMAZING weed in a pack for just $4. I know in the Netherlands they pay about 5 euros a gram. So it wouldn't be bad at all. Not to mention that some of us have very limited access to good herb period. Even if it was majorly taxed, it'd at least be legal to grow your own for personal use.
I wish coca leaves and khat were legalized crying Or at least make amphetamines more laxly prescribed... Yay stimulants!
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:35 pm
Better of Two Evils It wouldn't cost too much. ******** dude. Here, a gram of 'good' bud, which in reality is just some danky mids, can run $20-25. If it were legal, there would be a steady supply of amazing bud at a consistent price, no shady drug dealers, no having to be secret about it, and no more idiotic drug testing(at least for marijuana). Can you imagine if weed costed as much as cigarettes? That'd be like 20+ grams of AMAZING weed in a pack for just $4. I know in the Netherlands they pay about 5 euros a gram. So it wouldn't be bad at all. Not to mention that some of us have very limited access to good herb period. Even if it was majorly taxed, it'd at least be legal to grow your own for personal use. I wish coca leaves and khat were legalized crying Or at least make amphetamines more laxly prescribed... Yay stimulants! Yeah our government wouldn't do that it would ******** things up and weed would be even more expensive.
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:42 am
ohh Amsterdam reminds of some good times prices there are still better than here in England and its been just think about how many people would apply for a growing license and the dealers would be in competition with each as it would not be about who you know but who has the best grade and prices
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:44 am
I say keep it illegal, but make the punishment less severe.
You can buy it now, fairly cheap, from your local Elementary School parking lot...
OR you can go and buy it legally from a guy who looks like John Mccain...
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:52 pm
Better of Two Evils I know in the Netherlands they pay about 5 euros a gram. So it wouldn't be bad at all. The thing about the Netherlands is that the United States doesn't think the way that other countries do. Look at their politics; look at Sweden, France, Italy. The political climate is different, and the countries are old, their policies lax, their cultural values completely different. Part of that has to do with being so small and close to other countries, and thus having to weather international policies fairly regularly. Think of it this way: The US government is our parents. Its population is the rebellious teenagers, compared to older and more "mature" countries. The US still doesn't know how to deal with its "teenagers" and their tendencies for self-sabotage, excess luxury, violence and general arrogance. If we are granted the freedom to get stoned, it's the US trying to see if it can trust us. In short, it's going to take forever to be like the Netherlands. It is not going to be easy -- we will have to endure a very long period of trial-and-error.
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:21 am
dyejob Better of Two Evils I know in the Netherlands they pay about 5 euros a gram. So it wouldn't be bad at all. The thing about the Netherlands is that the United States doesn't think the way that other countries do. Look at their politics; look at Sweden, France, Italy. The political climate is different, and the countries are old, their policies lax, their cultural values completely different. Part of that has to do with being so small and close to other countries, and thus having to weather international policies fairly regularly. Think of it this way: The US government is our parents. Its population is the rebellious teenagers, compared to older and more "mature" countries. The US still doesn't know how to deal with its "teenagers" and their tendencies for self-sabotage, excess luxury, violence and general arrogance. If we are granted the freedom to get stoned, it's the US trying to see if it can trust us. In short, it's going to take forever to be like the Netherlands. It is not going to be easy -- we will have to endure a very long period of trial-and-error. You're acting like we'll make it that far . . . . this country won't see that point in our lifetime. The US government is more about CONTROLLING it's people, not giving us freedom. It get's worse and worse as time goes by, and even though we are a young country, we are also built on the ruins and mistakes of their forefathers. We as a people have made a mistake by not taking action in our government, and looking out for ourselves, instead of looking out for the freedoms of every man and woman to make the decisions in our lives, leading to better or worse. You can't tell someone, who is of sound mind, that they can't do something. They will make the choice for themselves, before or after finding out the consequences. The government we have was not put into place to do that, it was made so that these freedoms would be upheld. Thomas Paine is surely turning in his grave after all of the injustices this government has committed upon it's own people, but i've already delved into some deeper issues, that are for another place and time. IF weed was legalized (now mind you, that's for consumption of a brand sold at a store) it would not be as potent, however, I think price would not be dissimilar from alcohol, atleast not by much. So price would be high for a while, but would go down. Spliffed weed would also be an issue, as that would cater to the people that smoke regular amounts all day, so on and so forth. GROWING for personal consumption would be left up to the states to decide, as with tobacco. Selling would surely be outlawed and you would be charged as a bootlegger, and the penalties would be severe. You might see some states that leave you to get a license just as any market vendor would, and you may be given that route or option to sell and distribute the good s**t. In the end, all you get is another ******** messed up situation like the tobacco companies are in, because people are "addicted" and everyone has to press their ******** beliefs on a minority they don't approve of. Legalizing weed just makes it that much easier for them to rape you of your money, tax the ******** out of you, and bury you even further into their back pockets. I'm all for smokin' a joint and blowing it in the direction of a cop, but that satisfaction loses it's meaning when you don't have a reason to be afraid. I for one hopes this never happens. ((this is the first post i've made here in like, 2 years . . . .))
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:28 am
Tehmafrath Uzumaki You're acting like we'll make it that far . . . . this country won't see that point in our lifetime. That's EXACTLY what I'm saying, added to the fact that people are getting all excited about "duh duh duh I can smoke weed without getting thrown in jail" and in their minds they're going straight to this imaginary utopia where you can just have a jay with your drive to work, like cigarettes, or you can just pick it up at the grocery store whenever you're jonesing. That s**t is never going to happen, but even proposing a movement toward that reality is a movement toward that reality in and of itself, however minute that is. Extrapolating on the hypothetical situation in which such a bill passes, it doesn't grant nearly as much freedom as it would appear to, and the country would have to deal with such a s**t-storm from both tokers and non-tokers that it might backlash, and so on. When it comes down to it, he only reason why I, and probably everyone else, would want a step toward legalization is that we are ******** tired of being preyed upon by ticket-happy cops, and we are ******** tired of being seen so negatively for our choices. A step toward legalization means less antagonizing. But really, the bill is set up simply to antagonize us in a different way. I know this. You know this. I wish every other stoned dumb a** did, too.
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:14 am
3nodding Agreed ^
On a further note, I would LOVE to see more intellectual stoners. Everyone is only deceiving themselves of their reality, wasting the the time they have stoned. It takes a lot of willpower, but ANY stoner can be a productive person, it's just realizing that there is a choice after smoking, you don't have to sit in your own stereo-type and munch down ungodly amounts of food and giggle aimlessly at retarded TV shows. You CAN get up and go learn a skill, and that information is retained much easier when you are stoned.
Weed+Hash+Opium+Shrooms=MIND ALTERING(expanding) DRUGS
(those are just the ones I enjoy)
When you alter your mind it's like working with clay, it takes work, but when all is said and done, you have a pot that's FAR more useful than that wasted lump still sitting in the bucket.
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:58 pm
All i know is the grade point averages would increase and the crime rate would drop, and i would say no to any thing but the best, if given the choice...
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:44 pm
Tehmafrath Uzumaki IF weed was legalized (now mind you, that's for consumption of a brand sold at a store) it would not be as potent however, I think price would not be dissimilar from alcohol, atleast not by much. So price would be high for a while, but would go down. Why do you say that it would be less potent? Honestly the way I see it is that if weed becomes less potent after legalization, then people would just go back to getting weed illegally in order to get more potent weed, so that would provide a disincentive to making weed less potent. You also say that weed prices would be similar to alcohol. I don't agree to that simply because weed and alcohol are two very different products. In addition, I would like clarification on the point where you said the "price would be high for a while, but would go down" Quote: GROWING for personal consumption would be left up to the states to decide, as with tobacco. Selling would surely be outlawed and you would be charged as a bootlegger, and the penalties would be severe. You might see some states that leave you to get a license just as any market vendor would, and you may be given that route or option to sell and distribute the good s**t. In the end, all you get is another ******** messed up situation like the tobacco companies are in, because people are "addicted" and everyone has to press their ******** beliefs on a minority they don't approve of. How does having some restrictions on selling weed get to the situation of being in a messed up situation like the tobacco companies are in? I'd like an explanation, but so far it seems like a giant leap in logic. Quote: Legalizing weed just makes it that much easier for them to rape you of your money, tax the ******** out of you, and bury you even further into their back pockets. ....Honestly I think you're just being over dramatic here, but please do explain how they'd "rape you of your money" and "bury you even further into their back pockets.
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