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i know a guy, whos totally into the darkness, practices summoning, chants, lives a pretty.. umm God free life pretty much. doesnt reallly mind the fact that he'll end up in hell...

any way, he recently was taken over by a demon, and it was only there for a couple of days, went away, came back and now is gone. i didnt talk to this person for a week, and now he said, its with his soul... im not too sure really...

i guess i wanna know how that works and if it can go away.

oops my bad, i was talking in a sense of the christian god.

he likes it cause he says he it gives him power. what kinda power does that mean?

he says he can get rid of it, but in the process of doing that he'd get rip apart his own soul as well. is that true?

ah. i see. i know he has a book, i dont know what it is exactly. so yea...

in the time i've known him (8 years) i've only seen a demon (if you wanna call it that, thats what the most recent said it was) twice. and that thing attached itself to him. i dont think he wants to get rid of it, but if he did he said he cant cause it is attached, and it might break his soul... so i dunno...

he doesnt give a definte answer. i know he's done some black masses (i think black... the whole, upside down cross, desecration of the eucharist).
he doenst go into detail with me what it is...

It is true, Satanists do not believe in the devil, though Satanists do perform rituals, call upon demons and devils, invoke them. One note however, is Satanists believe in Satan, but not as a deity. They believe in Satan as a force that runs through them - like instinct on steroids. What raises my brow is that this person "has no problem with going to hell." A Satanist doesn't believe in hell. A Satanist believes Earth is your chance to find Heaven/Hell. A friend and I each picked a specific entity to bond with (will avoid saying demon, and will note we were both head-over-heals for LaVey's philosophy at the time) , and I would have to agree that I didn't want to be without it. But every now and then, your intentions are misunderstood, and the attached entity does something you don't want, and it is in those instances that you begin to realize that this equal-share business may not be the best thing for you. In fact, it eventually stops being equal-share and eventually you just get used to the entity taking care of things for you. I am confident that he will eventually want to part with it.

My soul was never in any danger, but it did feel like I was being torn apart when I was trying to force it off of me. The second party wasn't consenting. It wasn't a pleasant experience. I went deaf while it was happening, I started going blind while it was happening, rather, I saw something pulsating replacing my vision. I got hot, I couldn't stand... anyway, when it's all said and done, it feels like you're going to throw up (I only had dry heaves), and you feel sweaty, and cold, and weak, and depressed, and I found myself trembling and crying. I was so miserable afterwards that I looked for it again like an addiction, just to make all the pain go away. It wasn't until I had other spirits to embrace me afterwards that I found myself able to do it and never look back.

The Necronomicon - the version that I have, and probably the version he has, isn't the original. It has been revised by the hermetic order of the golden dawn. Stuff in there does work, and the things I have done through it I regret, but I didn't regret it for a few years after the fact. I was very pleased with my results at the time. I feel that rituals only work for the same reason LaVey would suggest rituals work, but there is a more appropriate subforum for me to get into that in. Anything can work, but that's where it becomes more important to know yourself.

I regret to inform you that it took about 4 years to want to end my relationship with my entity, so you may be in for a wait. I wouldn't attempt anything with it directly if I were you, because when you do this with an entity, the connection is like an addiction for both parties. It's something that mishap will teach him is not the best for him. Meanwhile, take comfort in knowing that the longer he waits to remove it, the more profound his transformation will be once it's off.

I don't know if this will help you at all, but the one thought that angered me to want it off the first few, unsuccessful times, is that whatever strength I had wasn't mine, and that I may in fact be very weak myself. Because when you're like that, there's no way to tell!

What may have actually helped me realize my mistake sooner is the right person asking the right questions.

If someone had continuously asked me how the two of us were doing together, and if everything was going how I would like it to, and how the spirit was doing, I would have been happy to answer, while at the same time, reflected on some important points.

For how they're doing, he'll probably say FANTASTIC. As for is everthing going the way he would like, he may say yes quickly at first, then it may become "pretty much," then you may start seeing some hesitation with him. Also, if you ask him if he's happy, that might make him look at his goals and re-evaluate them. Asking how the spirit is doing might make him wonder what the spirit is receiving out of the deal. It might make him suspicious of it over time, and begin to realize that the spirit has its own take on things.