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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:41 pm
Soooo, I was just curious how everyone deals with the sexuality of their characters in their stories/what have you. What model (working or horribly, horribly broken) or models do you follow? Why? How does this relate to your own views on sexuality in the real world?
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:38 pm
With the exception of Jericho and Nathan, sex really isn't a focus for most of my characters. Seeing that Yinda's only fourteen, Sabine has had a Proper Upbringing, and Vitae just never had time for relationships...well, yeah, as far as I know all three are virgins.
Jericho had an affair with some guy's wife and wound up in prison when all was said and done, but I'm still finding a place to mention that in the story.
And then there's Nathan, who I'm currently having a heated argument with over whether I ought to make it blatantly obvious that he likes men, or if I should just let his actions speak loudly enough that I don't have to go out of my way to draw attention to it. Or if his actions should speak loudly at all. I never set out for this story to be about sex--but then Nathan happened.
The really tragic thing is that Nathan only really has one role model (when it comes to sexuality) from the things I read and that would be Felix Harrowgate from the Doctrine of Labyrinths series. Like I said, tragic. The last thing this world needs is another Felix. Prior to Felix he took most of his cues from DWJ's various frou-frous--Howl, Corcoran, Torquil, etc.--and none of those cues had anything to do with sex. I'm thinking I'll have to start steering him back in that direction.
Nathan is the cause of much worry and panic on my part, because I feel like I really just don't know how to present him. This goes along with my current desperate urge to lock myself away for six months with a stack of books dealing with various topics and issues and read until my mind explodes, or, on the off chance, I actually learn something.
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:24 pm
Sex is 'snot a big thing for my characters. Maye is thirteen, so a big no-no for her. Hexx and Luci are college students, and aren't interested in sex. Charlie is more into sex than some of the others. But not so much. Royoko is too much of a house wife to even think about sex.
Karin, on the other hand, is a sexual perdator. Well....not really. But, you know. She's actually the perfect image of the worst wife ever. I don't know why Royoko hasn't divorced her yet. I mean, he's like a badly abused wife. The ones that clean and take care of their children while the father is out drinking and stuffs. Yeah. Umm....anyways, Karin will pretty much have sex with anybody. Including David Bowie.
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:45 pm
At the moment, my personal views on sexuality can be summarized as Asdfghkjlk, and are neatly filed under the topic of Do We Actually Exist?, which has a nasty habit of making messes all over the desk in English class. Er... "Cultural Studies, but We Aren't Calling it That Yet" class. The messes tend to include my (pulverized or otherwise now-liquid) brains. So there you have it. Bloody post-modernism.
I tend to represent my characters' interests as percentages out of a hundred in preference for and the male/female gender. Gender, not sex, as in Ysabell's Story World, it's all (or at least, mostly) cultural. Sort of. Possibly. Actually, hell if I know. If everyone in the world were clumped together and their point on such a scale graphed, the graph is assumed to appear bimodal around 20 and 80, and that true 100's do not really exist. They all pursue said preferences to different degrees, again represented as a percentage out of 100.
These values can be influenced by situation, such as brainwashing, trauma, etc. but are generally based on some internal, not-so-frequently acted upon... something, rather than on actions. There's also what they consider themselves/are considered by the worlds they live in, which also influences their actions.
Thusly: (note that the first is male/female, not same/opposite, or some such, and the preference in parenthesis is what they consider themselves/are considered, not necessarily how I would label them)
Kita (her father's. Not as creepy as it sounds.): 80/20, 10% Feragel (straight): 10/90, 40% (he's got other reasons) Indio (gay): 85/15, 60% (FYI, the later is about "normal"- Kita and Feragel are freaks) Elia (underage): SHE'S A LITTLE GIRL, YOU PERVERTS. Ahem. Adele (.....): 5/95, 0% (he's... damaged, and the Power of Love ain't gonna do s**t) Hero: No idea. He... doesn't really turn up much, just some brainwashed... brainwash he was more or less programed/replaced with.
Alex (......): 60/40, 20% Connor (too young): 25/75, 60% (if her were an adult) Zaya (bi): 60/40, 70% Armaranth (female preference): 30/70, 50%
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:28 am
My character Kenna is kind of a whore, and so's her boyfriend. That brings some sex to the story, but it isn't the main focus.
In another story, husband and wife Matt and Rachael will sleep with anything that moves and just don't give a s**t. They're a great match, mhmm.
As far as I know, none of my characters have sexual role models. They just do whatever (whoever?) the hell they want.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:51 am
In my current story (that I need to write in more), my characters have no sexual feelings. This is probably because their sexual preferences aren't important to the story, and since it's a mini-novel, such things would not add to the story, which is crammed full of plot and characters enough as it is.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:45 am
Rae: Is there really any good reason to make it blatantly obvious that Nathan likes men? That would make him seem rather like a Character who Exists To Be Fruity.
Sex is only a factor in one of the stories I'm working on right now, and it's neither important nor romantic. It is for the making of Babies. That said, the only proof the sex even happened is said Babies.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:26 pm
Sex happens in my stories because sex happens in real life, but my characters are sexual for different reasons. Asha (an fallen angel) wound up falling in love with a Demon...who took her to bed. Now don't be angry with her, she didn't understand what was happening. But in the climax of the story their love and sexual relationship has real import, because it gives them a child. A child of both worlds. Many of my characters are sexual, but almost against their will. Amanda, for example, was molested by her father at a young age. That memory plagues her, but not because she wants it to. But because of that memory, sex has an influence over her life. I include love making in my stories a lot, but its almost a metaphor for me. When I think about sex, I think about love and wholeness. When two of my characters come together like that (Hecate and Akio for example) it's almost more of a symbolizing of the fact that finally they will be whole and not broken anymore. Yeah, I'm wierd like that.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:23 pm
fallenangel_Asha I include love making in my stories a lot, but its almost a metaphor for me. When I think about sex, I think about love and wholeness. When two of my characters come together like that (Hecate and Akio for example) it's almost more of a symbolizing of the fact that finally they will be whole and not broken anymore. Yeah, I'm wierd like that. But sex isn't always about love and wholeness. Sometimes it's about power, or recreation, or desperation, or just plain lust. It's not always happiness and sparkles. Sometimes people feel horrified or even guilty the morning after or even the minute after. I don't want to sound like him scolding or harping, I just want to point out that sex doesn't necessarily bring healing and happiness.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:56 pm
Raincrow fallenangel_Asha I include love making in my stories a lot, but its almost a metaphor for me. When I think about sex, I think about love and wholeness. When two of my characters come together like that (Hecate and Akio for example) it's almost more of a symbolizing of the fact that finally they will be whole and not broken anymore. Yeah, I'm wierd like that. But sex isn't always about love and wholeness. Sometimes it's about power, or recreation, or desperation, or just plain lust. It's not always happiness and sparkles. Sometimes people feel horrified or even guilty the morning after or even the minute after. I don't want to sound like him scolding or harping, I just want to point out that sex doesn't necessarily bring healing and happiness. Oh, I understand that completely! Like I said, I've written about characters who were molested. I've written about their torment and their anguish about what happened to them. Even Asha was tormented with her actions at first, she's a holy creature after all. It just happens to be a trend in what I write that sex winds up being slightly healing for them. I have other stories, other characters who are forced to do terrible sexual things to demean themselves and prove the superiority of others. But as terrible as the act is, it winds up empowering them to do amazing things later on. I wasn't meaning to lecture on sex in general or in real life. Simply how I have used in my writing. I think I've dabbled a little on both sides of the extreme myself. Sex as a weapon and sex as a tool for healing.
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:56 am
WHAT IS LOVE BABY DON'T HURT ME DON'T HURT ME NO MORE  Fffff now I have to make this post relevant. Sex and love tend to be a background to my stories, if anything at all, and my characters' sexualities rarely come up. Ania is a very sexual character, but mostly because it's her job to be (she works in a fetish club). When she's off work she's a lot more chill. Malachy is homosexual, but that's kind of an authorly Just I Know thing, since he can't actually have any physical relationships (due to an unfortunate accident, his skin leaks magic onto other people and he tends to kill anyone he touches). If he were dedicated and full of love he could probably try and have a non-sexual relationship with someone, but he hates most everyone and doesn't see the point if you can't badonka-donk-oh-baby. I have a few other homosexual and bisexual characters (and one or two wildly heterosexuals), but for the most part sex just isn't a big deal to anyone, because it has yet to be any sort of focus (and I don't really think it should be, for that matter). Then there are the anti-sex characters -- Janus I nearly consider asexual, and Leon has issues with relationships and sex, too. It doesn't help that he's surrounded by women who have no interest in giving him a lay. Including Ania. (But except Fannie. She doesn't count, though, because she's underaged and more of a stalker than anything else.) But basically, sex is there, I just don't give a frack about mentioning it unless I think it's relevant to the plot.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:37 am
In the happy little land in my head, pretty much everybody is bisexual and loves each other equally for various different reasons at various different times. Of course, that's not how things really are, and I constantly struggle to make straight characters. I compensate for this, however, by shipping my own characters on the side when nobody is looking >.>
I grew up with a ton of sexually charged friends who have been on about it since I was like, five year old, so its kind of ingrained in me as being a big part of who characters are. I, on the other hand, was never very interested personally, (I don't like people touching me) but its still somehow a big part of my thinking. Could just be hormones, idk.
Sexuality rarely figures into my plots (which I am HORRIBLE at anyway, so they're rarely cohesive as it is) but it does, big time, into the characters. I have a lot of conflict with this, because I know that you can't write a good story by just rambling on, but my characters tend to wonder off in all directions at odd times >: They tend to do this in the interest of perusing dead-end relationships that I never condoned, but am usually fascinated by anyway. Probably because I end up torturing them endlessly with their repressed/forbidden/kidnapped love or whatever the hell I fell like at the time, and because sexuality makes characters so damn vulnerable, its so WONDERFUL to exploit in terrible, terrible, terrible ways.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:05 pm
Kita-Ysabell Soooo, I was just curious how everyone deals with the sexuality of their characters in their stories/what have you. What model (working or horribly, horribly broken) or models do you follow? Why? How does this relate to your own views on sexuality in the real world? Well, I write a lot of erotica... therefor the sexuality and sex lives of my characters comes up quite a lot. I'm not entirely certain what you mean by 'model' - most of my characters eventually end up in functional, healthy, sexual relationships - though the tensions and troubles of arriving at that point are often the driving force of the story line. My own view of sexuality undoubtedly colors the eventual outcome (Re: What I qualify as happy, healthy sexual relationships) but when I'm doing my job as an author correctly it takes a back seat to the character's own opinions of what sexuality is and should be.
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:49 pm
Kita-Ysabell Soooo, I was just curious how everyone deals with the sexuality of their characters in their stories/what have you. What model (working or horribly, horribly broken) or models do you follow? Why? How does this relate to your own views on sexuality in the real world? Most of my characters have/have had some sort of sexual relationship, but I rarely elaborate on any sort of details. Romance/pornography is not my forte. I use heterosexual and homosexual and male and female characters with about equal frequency.
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:10 pm
Sex, actually, is a topic that comes up frequently in my plots, though the actual description of it comes rarely. I don't know how it happened, but I eventually got this idea of sex being a symbolism for power, both in a good and a bad way in a relationship: good, in when a character allows someone to have that power over them as a sign of true trust, or bad, when someone forces that power, either through emotional manipulation or physical, on them. And since my of my stories always center around the idea of someone being trapped either physically in a place, or stuck in some sort of terrible situation, the expression of power is always important to my plots.
As an example, in my story, Lethal Sanctuary, my character Zack starts off the story, while not a pervert, sexually curious and open to the experience. But as time goes by both friends and enemies abuse this naive trust (an emotional jerk here, a Judas kiss there, alternative motives, and outright abuse in one case) and by the end of the story he's far more physically wary, which causes problems with his one relationship that had the potential to be sexually healthy. The point of this wasn't so that he could be physical with a lot of people, but to show a highly necessary character development in his increasingly negative self view and insecurities, which would have a direct effect on the overall plot.
But, that's just how I use it. I think a story can be perfectly good without anything physical even ever being mentioned.
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