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 Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:41 pm
...Cause I sure the hell don't know.
Zeitgeist, the Movie [the bottom movie]
When you get 2 hours to spare from your busy lives, watch the bottom movie on this page, "Zeitgeist, The Movie". Watch the whole thing, before you begin your judgments. But, i beg of you, please judge it once it is over, and let me know what you believe, and how you define "truth". I know its a big request, but I am just extremely curious to see your reactions.
**Note**: The beginning is drawn out and emotionally charged, with graphic content throughout the film. If you're squeamish, if you don't like to see war, and if you are set on your "truth", then I guess you shouldn't watch it, though i think it is important regardless.
Remember, don't judge it until it's over AND don't just believe it.
Enjoy. Listen.
EDIT: Watch Addendum, if you have OR haven't watched the first movie yet. Its information and perspectives you'll want to hear about. Extremely mind-broadening.  
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:08 am
Fun Fact:
Zeit·geist [tsahyt-gahyst]
–noun German.
The spirit of the time; general trend of thought or feeling characteristic of a particular period of time.
-Dictionary.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:42 pm
Truth be told I have already believed that about religion way before watching this. Any one here can recollect my dislike for Christianity and bam here goes secondary supporting evidence. I love it. xD
As for all the government schemes, yeah I wouldn't put it past them. Sad thing is it's true we could all just band together and end it all but the reality may never happen. We are slipt and we are lazy. I am split and I am lazy. I see people as idiots and have little faith in them. I don't know what I could do to even make a protest and yet am selfish enough to want change yet not feel like doing anything that obstructs my personal life.
The fact kinda is that government does provide coziness. It gives society a sense of a home and as good as it is it's not perfect and yes we would need to be used.
It's got pros and cons.
Secondly the fact remains with the preached "solution" being Peace and love.... don't you see that that is nothing more than a complete mind ******** of the human race as well. No war and hate, every one loving each other? We can't do that. People are different, we grow differently and think differently, we are chemically crafted being and that's what makes us human, individuality.
We'd have to give up pride and love of things, personal value, self worth even to just become a love zombie so to say. Sure Life would have less worries but also no thrill.
I like my video games and violence, and technology that make my life easy. How would we maintain that if no one had incentive other than just being nice. People are just people not gods, one person can not care for every other person. There would be no mass production, nothing to make us come together and excel years of work to new stages. There would be no real drive.
Honestly I am just content with going with the flow and what III feel is right. If I don;'t agree with it then I will not conform to it, if it doesn't sound all that bad then I will enjoy it. that's being human, choices of ones self, living you're own life and not the lives of everyone one else.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:43 am
It's pretty interesting watched this way back when (nice to know that federal tax is not really in any specific laws or anything haha), also there's another part called Zeitgeist Addendum now I think, but I'm too lazy to watch that haha 
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:35 pm
Yeah, after I saw it I was like... "What?"
And the past few days I have been hardcore researching for evidence and proof and truth and all that b.s.
Can't find any. Hoped I would, but I didn't and can't. :[
Anyway, I'm pretty much on par with Sirris. The only difference is, I don't know how much I like this RFID chip thing. If that happens, I am going to personally begin the assassinations. They will be the first bad guys ever to be assassinated. Lol
Gandhi, John Lennon, Martin L. King Jr., and probably soon-to-be Barack Obama. : I mean come on, first black president, what he's trying to represent, and look where he's jumpin' onto the wagon, not to mention the whole "agenda" that is being attempted behind the scenes - he'd kinda throw that off a bit. I desperately hope not, but wouldn't be surprised.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:44 am
Hey all the more reason we need to show support. They can't just kill off every single person that stands up, and it's not like we instantly can stand up all at once. We need figure heads to rise as much as they can in any way shape or form, even very simply to show that we can't be completely controlled.
Not saying that Obama is jesus, but really if he's trying for an important task like this knowing how dangerous it really could be, we should support it not look away from it.
And yeah I would NEVER vote for those chips. Hell ******** no. Already the card age is controlling us, but when it draws the line of implanting... ******** that/ Sure there may be dangers in this world but ******** you for thinking I can't take action myself. Humanity it's self isn't weak, sugar coating things and offering false hope weakens us though.
America is too cozy, a little worry would do the bones good~
And it is true that too much power leads to corruption, but no power just leads backwards to times of pure terrorny. (sp?)
We need more balance, not white and black. People all have sins and little sins are just a part of life, being monitored to the point of implants surpasses the privacy of even one's own body. That's stepping way too far.
If that bill ever passes or is attempted I actually would go out and riot against it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:00 pm
If its a movie about making people question religion, and what is god, and s**t like that:
When it comes to me it goes in one ear and out the other. I don't believe in anything, to me human existence, or any advanced life for that matter, was just an extremely lucky coincidence that took 100's of millions of years of trial and error. And a few shakes of the Galactic "Etch-a-Sketch" to fine tune. I really do dislike it when religion comes up in daily life and people ask about things like that since my usual answer makes me sound like a pessimistic a*****e.
If not:
Disregard the previous paragraph, you've read nothing!
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:33 am
It begins by attempting to outright debunk religion, and then onto other things, mostly governmental.
But the second one, Zeitgeist: Addendum, is much better than the first, and the end doesn't leave you feeling doomed. Everyone should watch it, the second half of the movie is so uplifting, and I agree with it whole-heartedly, along with agreeing with it objectively, as well.
Don't let the time stamp of 2 hours dissuade you, it won't be a waste of time, i guarantee that.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:15 pm
It's funny because just the other day a friend of mine in Chemistry brought the movie up and we discussed it instead of writing formulas.
I do want to believe the facts presented in Zeitgeist, but at the same time, there's no other proof that I could, and apparently anyone else, find to really back it up. Though, facts like those wouldn't ever be easy to find, let alone allowed by those that are involved.
I do believe it is in the vain of truth though, and it's something I've always thought was sick, the systematic dismantlement of humanity. Humans are slowly devolving to resources and, in a sense, currency by who ever's running the show, the brass, that higher ups, those pulling the strings. Maybe it's not that anyone is evil, but the system is so established and is moving so fast no one can stop it, and are forced into working with it, but regardless it's something people need to be aware of. I agree a lot with what's been said, it makes me really, really happy to see people that intelligent, people that are so truthful with their voices, that's going to be the real cure, not two forces killing each other, but many different forces all trying to find a middle ground.
On to the idea of religion, I don't mind people being faithful, but its been mutilated into something no longer pure in intention, it's a weapon of the government and vice-versa. I don't want anyone, in the modern sense of the word, religious running any society I belong in for the basic fact that people who are faithful, believe they're correct, and that others are wrong which infringes on what it is to be human, freedom of thought. I heard a quote I like, 'Our culture is to be able to understand and appreciate other cultures,' and I think that in general is what's been lost. It's hard for me to articulate my ideas or feelings as well as Sirris can, but I definitely have a vision of what I think.
We need more art like Zeitgeist.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:35 pm
The most important thing, is to just ask questions. And today, no one does. Everyone either just "deals with it" or straight up believes whatever they hear on TV. Regaining consciousness, first, is pretty important if you ever want free will.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:00 am
V!ral The most important thing, is to just ask questions. And today, no one does. Everyone either just "deals with it" or straight up believes whatever they hear on TV. Regaining consciousness, first, is pretty important if you ever want free will.
That's a great way to say it.
Thank you.
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