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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:31 pm
ok well before i start lets get one things straight i dont like ff7 i find it to be the worst final fantasy ever (some of its spin offs are alright though like crisis core)
ANYWAY my friend told me about crisis core and i doubted i would like it since it was a FF7 game, but i tried it and it was actually good. The main reason i actually look anything up on ff7 now is to find out more about the awesome character of which was first scene in final fantasy dirge of cerberus but went more into detail on in crisis core "Genesis" I didnt fully get all the details on him as to why he is in DOC but can anyone give me a full explination about him in crisis core, dirge of cerberus, and why is he the exact opposite of seph (wing on other side, uses sword with his other hand has the g cells in him if i remember correctly as where seph has the s cells) but my memory could be making me lose it so disreguard the thing in (())
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:19 pm
I Love Bunny Rabbits...
well, as explained in CC, Genesis, Angeal, and sephiroth were best friends. Sephiroth was always considered a hero by the media. He was strong, but didnt say much. Genesis always thought that Sephiroth was given too much fame. He believed all of sephiroth's fame should of been his because he believed he was better. Genesis was obsessed with Loveless because he began to notice that the story in loveless, was similar too HIS life. Just a bit too similar. Genesis tried to compete with sephiroth hoping to be better than him, to outshine him.
Now i havent played DoC but what ive said is what ive gotten from play CC and completing it three times. thats all i know for now....I think thery're Cutakins 
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:47 pm
xXlittlelula14Xx I Love Bunny Rabbits...
well, as explained in CC, Genesis, Angeal, and sephiroth were best friends. Sephiroth was always considered a hero by the media. He was strong, but didnt say much. Genesis always thought that Sephiroth was given too much fame. He believed all of sephiroth's fame should of been his because he believed he was better. Genesis was obsessed with Loveless because he began to notice that the story in loveless, was similar too HIS life. Just a bit too similar. Genesis tried to compete with sephiroth hoping to be better than him, to outshine him.
Now i havent played DoC but what ive said is what ive gotten from play CC and completing it three times. thats all i know for now....I think thery're Cutakins  still doesnt answer alot but thank you, and at the end of DOC you see genesis
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:09 pm
i know this may sound ridculous and u probally wont belive me but its a theory. yes genesis felt like sephiroth got way too much fame then he deserved and yes maybe he is right but i have a theory that sephiroth and genesis are closer then it looks. one theory is that sephiroth and genesis are related because at the end of DOC genesis picks up weiss and calls him brother and im only basing it off of hair that is all because of the silver hair (yes doubtful but u never know). zack and genesis seem kinda close sorta so you may never know about that. another is the definite fact that you have no clue about cloud's family at all, meaning something but probally nothing. remeber these are just theories and plz dont get mad at me for any of these. if you can help me in any of these plz message me or post on this k?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:00 pm
futurekingofgames i know this may sound ridculous and u probally wont belive me but its a theory. yes genesis felt like sephiroth got way too much fame then he deserved and yes maybe he is right but i have a theory that sephiroth and genesis are closer then it looks. one theory is that sephiroth and genesis are related because at the end of DOC genesis picks up weiss and calls him brother and im only basing it off of hair that is all because of the silver hair (yes doubtful but u never know). zack and genesis seem kinda close sorta so you may never know about that. another is the definite fact that you have no clue about cloud's family at all, meaning something but probally nothing. remeber these are just theories and plz dont get mad at me for any of these. if you can help me in any of these plz message me or post on this k? seph and gen seem close as it is now opposite yet close. anyway can somone tell me everything they can about genesis
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:51 pm
sephiroth is a homosexual genesis on the other hand is a homosexual IN RED(my favorite color) genesis ftw
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:32 pm
LOL... that's a nice outlook to it... To me, Genesis just looks like another copy of Sephiroth in terms of looks and the desire for power....
I don't know too much about it, but all I know is that Genesis was supposedly a powerful SOLDIER, until his body started to corrode and reduced his lifespan. In order for him to keep going, he needed JENOVA cells to boost his lifespan and power to its full potential. Since the scientists have always considered him as a test subject and never as a human, he was taken as a top secret test subject for probably more clones...
I don't think I explained that well... sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:13 pm
Ok, many people have posted some things that are right and others that I know are wrong. First, Genesis and Weiss are not related, and that would not make a relation with Sephiroth. DoC was not one of my favs, payed attention to the story a little bit and started to think a little when I saw Genesis. Mainly because Gackt is awesome...... Anyway, at the end of DoC we see Genesis holding Weiss, call him brother and fly away. If I remember correctly Nero was Weiss's brother and had the ability to inhabit another body or something of the sort. This is just a theory, but I think that Nero was in control of Genesis and was using his body to escape with Weiss and do some stuffs resulting in another game, explanation of some kind or something.
Ok enough of my theories.
Next, as far as Genesis himself as a character in Crisis Core, yes he, Angeal, and Sephiroth were best friends, other people who posted explained this. Genesis was created with G cells which were basically second generation Jenova cells. Genesis's mother was injected with Jenova cells and then had Genesis as a child afterwards. While Sephiroth, was implanted into Lucrecia with Jenova cells directly. Lucrecia doesn't have any in her. I can't remember exactly but I believe Angeal was made a similar way, don't know exactly because I only played the Japanese version of the game and can't translate everything yet.
Genesis begins to corrode and deteriorate, hence the whiting of his hair and clothes, and you can see cracks in his skin and whatnot later. This was because Genesis was an incomplete test subject, and he went after Professor Gillan, his creator, to force him to help cure him. Then he found out that Hojo discovered a way to do it and went after him. In doing so he learns of Sephiroth's creation and reveals that to Sephiroth later at the Nibleheim reactor. Of course, you all knew that.
One thing that was difficult to pick up on, was at the end after you defeat Genesis and leave him sitting by that chair, and those two people come to take him away in SOLDIER uniforms. If you look closely the one who picks up Genesis has silver hair. That person is Weiss. I would believe the other was Nero.
That is about all I've gathered and theorized about Genesis. If I'm wrong hopefully someone will let me know, and let me know which cutscene I need to re-watch. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:24 pm
VampireDesh Ok, many people have posted some things that are right and others that I know are wrong. First, Genesis and Weiss are not related, and that would not make a relation with Sephiroth. DoC was not one of my favs, payed attention to the story a little bit and started to think a little when I saw Genesis. Mainly because Gackt is awesome...... Anyway, at the end of DoC we see Genesis holding Weiss, call him brother and fly away. If I remember correctly Nero was Weiss's brother and had the ability to inhabit another body or something of the sort. This is just a theory, but I think that Nero was in control of Genesis and was using his body to escape with Weiss and do some stuffs resulting in another game, explanation of some kind or something. Ok enough of my theories. Next, as far as Genesis himself as a character in Crisis Core, yes he, Angeal, and Sephiroth were best friends, other people who posted explained this. Genesis was created with G cells which were basically second generation Jenova cells. Genesis's mother was injected with Jenova cells and then had Genesis as a child afterwards. While Sephiroth, was implanted into Lucrecia with Jenova cells directly. Lucrecia doesn't have any in her. I can't remember exactly but I believe Angeal was made a similar way, don't know exactly because I only played the Japanese version of the game and can't translate everything yet. Genesis begins to corrode and deteriorate, hence the whiting of his hair and clothes, and you can see cracks in his skin and whatnot later. This was because Genesis was an incomplete test subject, and he went after Professor Gillan, his creator, to force him to help cure him. Then he found out that Hojo discovered a way to do it and went after him. In doing so he learns of Sephiroth's creation and reveals that to Sephiroth later at the Nibleheim reactor. Of course, you all knew that. One thing that was difficult to pick up on, was at the end after you defeat Genesis and leave him sitting by that chair, and those two people come to take him away in SOLDIER uniforms. If you look closely the one who picks up Genesis has silver hair. That person is Weiss. I would believe the other was Nero. That is about all I've gathered and theorized about Genesis. If I'm wrong hopefully someone will let me know, and let me know which cutscene I need to re-watch. Hope this helps. Sounds right. I can't really remember what Angeal's deal was specifically either, though. sweatdrop I thought is was a given that that was Weiss and Nero at the end! See, that made me think two things: Firstly, where is Genesis between then and Crisis Core? Second, something's gotta take place after Dirge. Something that might answer the first thought, for that matter. (They have pretty much confirmed that the Compilation's not over, I think.) So, I'm waiting to see if that ever surfaces. As for your theory... Sounds plausible. I never played all of Dirge myself, so I don't know the story as well as I feel I should, but from what I know, I think it could be Genesis himself.
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:03 am
Wasn't Gillian Angeal's mother? Collaboration with my sister (not my sister named Gillian, although that would have been intresting) says that a woman named Gillian (Project G = project Gillian) was injected with Jenova cells, then gave birth to Angeal. Genesis was inserted into her uterus as a fetus. All of this was done by Professor Hollander.
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:23 pm
ArikaiHart Wasn't Gillian Angeal's mother? Collaboration with my sister (not my sister named Gillian, although that would have been intresting) says that a woman named Gillian (Project G = project Gillian) was injected with Jenova cells, then gave birth to Angeal. Genesis was inserted into her uterus as a fetus. All of this was done by Professor Hollander. That definitely sounds familiar, and it makes sense! Of course, you probably could say anything and it would sound right; my brain has a habit of doing that. stare
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:44 pm
Ah, that's right. I confused Gillian to be the professor XD. I remember the name Hollander now. Gillian was Angeal's mother. I can't remember exactly what they did though. Bah, I got all the cutscenes saved on my comp. Should just watch them and find out.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:35 am
I haven't finished CC yet, but from what I've seen so far:
We finally have Angeal's "deal" corrected. I thought Genesis had the Jenova cells mapped onto him as a fetus. Those Jenova cells were second generation because they came from Gillian, hence they were g-cells. Sephiroth's Jenova cells were directly from Jenova herself. (He even calls his mother Jenova before he goes crazy and stands before her masked cell calling her mother. Yeah. If that made any sence.)
Yes? No? Hope I understood the cut scenes correctly!
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:43 pm
Okay, Genesis is awsome, so is Angeal and Sephiroth... (Why did they all have to die?) but i have a question. What is the deal with Kadaj or Luz or the other remnant, or even some other silver haired dude carrying off genesis near the end of crisis core. that kind of confused me. Any explinations?????
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:00 pm
Okay, i just read some of the posts about the theories about Angeal, Sephiroth, and Genesis. Hojo is the one that created all three. basically, Angeal and Genesis were failed experiments to create the perfect warrior. Sephiroth is the final result of that series of experiments and we all see how mentally sound HE is.... but i digress... Angeals mother had Genova cells implanted within her when she was pregnant with Angeal. she gave birth to angeal. Then when Genesis was a fetus he was implanted into Gillian (hence G cells) and she gave birth to Genesis and he was raised by his "real" parents. Therefore, Angeal had firsthand genova cells and Genesis had secondhand genova cells. Sephiroth is Hojo's own son (Hojo really is a twisted b*****d isn't he?) whom he implanted jenova cells into.
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