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President Robert Cooper Crew
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 Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:34 am
Seeing as how you can't open your newspaper, turn on your radio, or watch TV without hearing something about this, I was compelled to ask what other Guild members think about the GM/Chrysler/Ford bailout.
Should they be saved at the expense of your tax dollars?
Personally, I am against ANY bailout. I do not believe it's the government's job to prop up any business, large or small. In that case, where is the bailout for all the small businesses that fail every day?
Also, I think this is a problem between the Big Three and their stubborn, overpowering unions that they need to sort out themselves. There is no need to get ordinary Americans involved in their personal matters. Frankly, I think the unions need to agree to less concessions so that they are as productive as nonunion automotive plants in the South that show no hint of failure. If they can't do that, then do away with unions altogether.
I do understand that failure for these businesses will cause a severe reprimand for our economy, but it doesn't mean the end of the world.
Actually, what these companies should do is:
GM: DO NOT sell Saturn and DO sell Saab and Hummer. Saturn is one of their family car lines that GM needs to focus on. Saab is better off in the hands of someone else, and Hummers are merely for those with very little common sense, too much money and too big an ego. It's about time they're hacked off.
Also, they need to stop making mountains out of molehills by turning Tahoes and even Escalades into hybrids. Even if you did make them into hybrids, it would take about 19 years to justify the cost of a Tahoe hybrid, and don't get me started on that ridiculous Escalade hybrid.
Chrysler: Focus more on fuel-efficient, affordable family cars. Cut back on truck and van production until things start to stabilize. Also, now's not a very good time to introduce the Challenger...
Ford: Import more of their fuel-efficient European cars. It is because of the fuel-efficient cars that they are selling in Europe that would give Ford the best chance of surviving this.
Also, all three of them need to not only focus on what the public will buy, but also, they need to focus on other industries that are stable that they could send their workers to, such as bus production.
This is my take. What's yours? Post your takes below.
(On a side note...can you imagine how the value of any Mustang will suddenly skyrocket if Ford went under?)
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:40 am
I agree 100 percent. I've been paying for a car and now I get to shovel out my tax dollars to bail out greedy, money hungry, rich a** fools that have the nerve to show up the first time in 10,000 dollar suits and private ******** jets. I mean come on!!!!! Sell the jets, sell the suits, cut back the hundreds of million dollars that each company pays their executives each year. Ford really shouldn't be there in the first place. They have had two years to figure out what to do. They have been going broke since 2004. Ever since they bought Mini. And when they did, what did they do, increase production on a car that gets damn near 50 miles to a gallon. No! They worry about the mustang. A car that gets less than twenty. I wonder why Kia, Honda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Hyundai did so well in the states. They sold fuel efficient cars and SUV's. They produced according to public demand. Public demand in the last four to six years has been for cars that don't take 100 dollars to fill up and will hold the tank more than a day. Also, don't forget about the nearly failed project of hydrogen powered vehicles. That hasn't gone very far. Hybrids haven't been pushed all that well, even by ford. Chrysler did far worse than Chevrolet or Ford. They did marketing on the new superbee truck, the charger and now the challenger. Perhaps what they need to do is get rid of the pricks running the joint and finds some people with more than half a brain cell. Also, like you said Robert, look into the European market. Ford has Mini. Chevy and Chrystler have their own Euro lines. All in all, its depressing.
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President Robert Cooper Crew
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:38 pm
Quote: Ford really shouldn't be there in the first place. They have had two years to figure out what to do. They have been going broke since 2004. Ever since they bought Mini. Ford bought Mini? I thought BMW did. Anyway, I was thinking that Ford should bring their fuel-efficient Ford-branded European cars over, such as the Ka, the Kuga, and of course, the Fiesta and the Mondeo. Actually, Ford is planning to import these vehicles and get them ready for the US market, but they're a little late to the party, don't you think? That's one thing that pisses me off about Ford. They had the idea all along, but it didn't occur to them to do this until NOW?! Same with GM. General Motors had Opel and Vauxhall all this time, and yet, now is when they get the bright idea to bring them here? That's the big reason why it would be corporate suicide for GM to sell Saturn, since all they are for the most part are rebranded Opels. As for Chrysler...they've been screwed from the beginning. There's a reason why Daimler and Chrysler broke up, you know. But anyway, if Ford does own Mini, they need to bring more of those to the States as well. And lop off a few thousand off the price.
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:14 am
I think it's safe to say that our long time motor companies will be bankrupt in the next few years... Ford has some alternatives tho, like selling Volvo....
haven't they already got rid of Mazda?
Of course it's a shame I hate to see a compay with so much history just fizzle out
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:32 pm
President Robert Cooper Quote: Ford really shouldn't be there in the first place. They have had two years to figure out what to do. They have been going broke since 2004. Ever since they bought Mini. Ford bought Mini? I thought BMW did. Anyway, I was thinking that Ford should bring their fuel-efficient Ford-branded European cars over, such as the Ka, the Kuga, and of course, the Fiesta and the Mondeo. Actually, Ford is planning to import these vehicles and get them ready for the US market, but they're a little late to the party, don't you think? That's one thing that pisses me off about Ford. They had the idea all along, but it didn't occur to them to do this until NOW?! Same with GM. General Motors had Opel and Vauxhall all this time, and yet, now is when they get the bright idea to bring them here? That's the big reason why it would be corporate suicide for GM to sell Saturn, since all they are for the most part are rebranded Opels. As for Chrysler...they've been screwed from the beginning. There's a reason why Daimler and Chrysler broke up, you know. But anyway, if Ford does own Mini, they need to bring more of those to the States as well. And lop off a few thousand off the price. Ford bought BMW in early 2000 and then as bmw, bought mini a few years later. Daimler and chrysler are back together. Daimler also owns mercedes. I didn't know that Ford owned Mazda
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:29 pm
ima say this now i did not read ny of the other posts but FORD DID NOT TAK A BAIL OUT i think they were the only ones thai did not take it correct me of im wrong iv got a 2003 ford wind star (yeah it looks like s**t so far) and its never let me down
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:13 am
XxEdward_n_BellaXx ima say this now i did not read ny of the other posts but FORD DID NOT TAK A BAIL OUT i think they were the only ones thai did not take it correct me of im wrong iv got a 2003 ford wind star (yeah it looks like s**t so far) and its never let me down Your information is correct. Ford didn't take a bailout. They somehow managed to keep in the black. Although barely.
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